Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumRCP Average: Biden 28.3% Biden is clearly the front runner. It appears that Warren has declined
beginning in October (after the debates?) and continuing into November
Biden is leading in the RCP average in all states except Monmouth where he is tied. Great news for Joe...he is as I stated before clearly the front runner and will go on IMHO to be our nominee in 20...Trump will lose in a landslide!
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,878 posts)that is not what they are telling me on the tv.. Its been over since last May.. and yet he leads in the polls.. it is driving them nuts.. If I see one more swoon on the fainting conch by a pundit, I am going to hurl..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,878 posts)you have to admit.. that was creative... do I get to add Buttigieg and Klobuchar in my numbers
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)other candidates...I would also just like to say again...there will be no brokered convention...Perez has opined it will be over by spring and I agree.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Reminds me that back in the 1990s the late Cokie Roberts and her cable talking head group, when those things were new, apologized publicly and sincerely for being completely, shockingly wrong for about 3 elections.
Three was too many for everyone, though, so they moved to the now-traditional election-night pivot to total wisdom on whatever the new reality is. Each mentions some obscure remark dropped long before as CYA insurance, and before the next day is over all ante-election discussion is buried in the past of what is determinedly forgotten and not allowed to be regretted.
Politicians are hardly only ones corrupted by what it takes to keep their jobs in this environment.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DarthDem
(5,256 posts)There should be a claim available for journalistic malpractice. It would also include actively doing everything you can to tear down a nominee (Gore, Hillary Clinton, and possibly Kerry).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)correct as Biden pulled it out or they said like you suggested xyz at some obscure time...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Joes campaign has collapsed
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,878 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,836 posts)Also I have heard Biden is out of money.
But somehow that doesnt seem to diminish his support.
Watch now as Warren is up, the money will start coming in for another primary candidate that cant win. Just to keep the horse race alive.
Joe will consistently stay in the top.
Because he will beat trump
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,698 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)the graph...Warren is trending downward.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Yes, people liked her on getting acquainted with her, we all like her, but then a few big details about a couple of her plans became better known.
The clue to electability isn't doing well when the media and RW mostly leave candidates alone, of course, but how they fare when they don't. In spite of Trump's nonsense, so far criticism has been pretty light and limited mostly to her big plans.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Only the brave and bold could try to ride a giant wave to great change they hope to create, but it looks like she got carried away by a rather extreme vision only a minority share.
I put it on Sanders. No one would have thought to join the right in passionate opposition to Obamacare if he hadn't lead them for his own reasons and, of course, if RW enemies of the ACA, including those controlling much of the MSM, hadn't made the most of what he was doing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)destroy the ACA which is all we have or may ever have...millions of people depend on this. I went to Fox to watch them suffer after the election and heard a this...clearly they are trying to use M4A to destroy the ACA.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)never want that. She's an ethical Democrat and not someone who'd regard America losing national healthcare altogether under the Republicans as self validation and proof of Democratic corruption. And of course wanting to build even bigger for itself is in a different universe from a desire to destroy the Obama admin's great achievement.
My feeling has always been that not strongly differentiating and distancing herself from Sanders would hurt her, and essentially embracing his MfA of course did not help.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)have too much sense to embark on such an unnecessarily very dangerous and delaying course. Sanders doesn't seem to believe the Republicans would be a problem if he just could get past our obstruction, but she knows they see MfA as a cornucopia of weapons and opportunities.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,487 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,787 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)Biden still leads...despite near constant attacks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)so I am not sure we can expect her numbers to rise in all states as she campaigns...some no doubt. But I expect Biden's numbers to rise in the same manner.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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kstewart33
(6,551 posts)I've yet to read a positive piece about it and for good reason. It's too much change too quickly and no one knows how changing 20% of the economy will turn out.
I'm hoping she sets it aside and goes for building on Obamacare.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)I like it, but this should have been clear a long time ago.
It's a complex issue, and complex issues need a LOT of messaging runway in the United States. Especially when facts are involved.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)walk it back.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)everyone feels this way about their candidate. It's called confirmation bias.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skittles
(153,174 posts)they ain't seen NOTHING yet
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Whoever the nominee is, needs to be made out of the same shit the re-entry tiles on the Space Shuttle were made with.
It's going to be insane. It's going to be overwhelming. It'll be relentless. It'll be ridiculous. It'll be mostly outright lies.
And with Trump's base and a good chunk of the middle... it'll be effective. We have to successfully weather what Hillary endured last time, PLUS MORE, and also flip electoral votes.
There's some early positive indications, but the general is a long way off, and shit can change in a hurry.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)he continues as the front runner.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)I suggest you start building a fallout shelter for the General Election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)matter who...but Biden has faced scathing attacks from the media, pollsters and supporters of other candidates...I submit Warren has faced very little shit. And despite it all, Biden is still the front runner. As he is very well known he can face anything the GOP has and still win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)I fully expect the unrelenting torrent of mostly false shit, that will be inbound, whether it's Biden or Warren.
Please just keep in mind, what we've already seen that you feel is scathing, is NOTHING compared to what is coming. That's all. I'm within you on the ticket though, even if my favored candidate isn't on it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)He is the front runner so I suppose that is to be expected.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)the would be orange dictator must be defeated.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,400 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Xandric77
(54 posts)Correct.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
gopiscrap
(23,763 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,487 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Joe941
(2,848 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LakeArenal
(28,836 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,836 posts)Also the that liked by everyone thing is such a losing position.
Sarcasm thingie X here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
empedocles
(15,751 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LakeArenal
(28,836 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,639 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,511 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PhoenixDem
(581 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
boomer_wv
(673 posts)Isn't a very good politician. She underperforms even in deep blue Massachusetts and her plans don't stand up to scrutiny. Then, when someone has the nerve to point this out, she goes on a rant about how they're just republicans in disguise. She just puts off this vibe like she thinks she's always the smartest person in the room and nobody should ever question her.
That's what happens when you spend decades in the ivory tower.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,487 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden