Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumJulin Castro Calls for Re-ordering of Democratic Primary States
2020 presidential candidate Julián Castro told MSNBC he thinks the order of primary states should change, arguing the country has changed demographically since Iowa became first-in-the-nation.
I actually believe that we do need to change the order of the states, because I dont believe that were the same country we were in 1972, Castro told Ayman Mohyeldin. Thats when Iowa first held its caucus first. And by the time we had the next presidential election in 2024, it will have been more than 50 years since 1972. Our country has changed a lot in those 50 years.
What I really appreciate about Iowans and the folks of New Hampshire is that they take this process very seriously. They vet the candidates, show up at town halls. They give the people a good hearing, Castro said. Same time, demographically, its not reflective of the United States as a whole, certainly not reflective of the Democratic Party and other states should have their chance.
That doesnt mean that Iowa and New Hampshire cant still play a role but I dont think we should be forever married to Iowa and New Hampshire going first, he continued.
https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/julian-castro-calls-for-re-ordering-of-democratic-primary-states-country-has-changed-a-lot/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)It's not a decision that a Presidential candidate can make or that even can be made at a federal level - at least not yet. Castro is doing himself no favors by advocating for such.
See, e.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_primary
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)It's not like there's even a remote chance he's going to walk away with the nomination. He might as well use the attention to advocate for issues he feels are important.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)feels that he hasn't much to lose. But IMO, the question should never have been asked.
We certainly don't seem to educate our voters well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,924 posts)reflect the make-up of the country, and even less of the Democratic Party. The results from these first states influences fundraising, donors, national perception, media coverage, delegate count etc. and can doom candidates who might do better in more representative primaries.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,715 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
boomer_wv
(673 posts)Can't we just all vote at once?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RockRaven
(15,035 posts)Even on national holidays and weekends many people still have to work, but *Tuesday*!? C'mon, man.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Xandric77
(54 posts)I'm all for it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(94,792 posts)Id like to know a candidate can relate to voters one on one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
VarryOn
(2,343 posts)And it cant happen soon enough!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)and seemed agitated by the question. She seemed as though see resented being asked. Castro was great!
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)their primaries should be.
Should IA and NH be first? They've made their decisions. There is no reason why other states can't change their own primary dates to come first.
This is a gotcha question that NEVER should have been asked of a Presidential candidate.
Some - too many here even - don't seem to understand the roles played by the states. Please review the process: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_primary
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The staggered nature of the presidential primary season allows candidates to concentrate their resources in each area of the country one at a time instead of campaigning in every state simultaneously. In some of the less populous states, this allows campaigning to take place on a much more personal scale. However, the overall results of the primary season may not be representative of the U.S. electorate as a whole: voters in Iowa, New Hampshire and other less populous states which traditionally hold their primaries and caucuses in late-January/February usually have a major impact on the races, while voters in California and other large states which traditionally hold their primaries in June generally end up having no say because the races are usually over by then. As a result, more states vie for earlier primaries, known as "front-loading", to claim a greater influence in the process. The national parties have used penalties and awarded bonus delegates in efforts to stagger the system over broadly a 90-day window. Where state legislatures set the primary or caucus date, sometimes the out-party in that state has endured penalties in the number of delegates it can send to the national convention.
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Warren understands that. The questioner did NOT. Please do not use this as yet another reason to bash her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madville
(7,412 posts)The DNC does not have to recognize delegates from a state that defies them or causes a disruption. Its happened before with Florida I believe, they tried to move their primary to January ahead of everyone else.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)that are doing that in this election cycle?
This is the one currently at issue ... and, however one may feel about it, it's a bit late to change the rules for this one now. That is why I feel that was a "gotcha" question and why I was upset that anyone would choose that particular issue to take a shot at Warren.
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Personally, I believe that the way we elect US Presidents is totally inane and insane. Fifty different states with different sets of voting rules are only part of it.
I could go on ... and on ... and on, but will spare you.
We probably would find much to agree about.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,715 posts)in the primary...Hillary likely would have won in 08 if t hose delegates counted...very close primary...the DNC has the final say of whether delegates count or not so they can make states change it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)Why drag the process out? Why do, in 2020, two states that are least representative of the Democratic party relevant? Demographic make-up of these two states are simply not the face of our party
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,245 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(47,544 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PhoenixDem
(581 posts)Accented characters like à á é è ñ ô etc. typed in the "Title" field get eaten.
Someone has to encode the title field in UTF-8.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Green Line
(1,123 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RainCaster
(10,929 posts)Only allow a three month primary season, too.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BuffaloJackalope
(818 posts)People "concerned" about giving too much influence to California & New York b/c of their population have no problem giving too much it to Iowa & New Hampshire.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Renew Deal
(81,883 posts)Especially since 1992. We have only lost one popular vote since 1992
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,715 posts)We have won twice and the other side who is less popular won twice. I am talking EC...not popular vote as popular vote doesn't matter. And Iowa and/or New Hampshire is not predictive of winning a general...I would also note that Clinton did not win either.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,667 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madville
(7,412 posts)No large states should be allowed to be in the first 5 contests, no CA, TX, FL, or NY. They have too many delegates to be among the first 5.
The main problem is that it is written into some states laws what order they have to go. NH has to be the 1st primary, theyll simply move their date if someone leapfrogs them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
whistler162
(11,155 posts)one time east(PR and VI), middle, west(including Alaska and Hawaii then middle, west, east then west, middle, east.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bamagal62
(3,272 posts)Iowa is about 90% white. It does not represent the population.
Why should they decide the direction in which our primary takes???
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,792 posts)...his IA and NH polling aren't likely to get any worse.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden