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Great Point/Question About Age in Politics by M. Moore: If Bernie is "too old" to be POTUS is... (Original Post) JoeOtterbein Nov 2019 OP
The obvious, Speaker and Pres is not the same. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #1
Equal branch head treestar Nov 2019 #19
The greatest difference is one has recently had an heart attack and has heart damage, and the other Jewls2 Nov 2019 #24
Though speaker is third in line for the presidency, right after VP! thesquanderer Nov 2019 #22
He was great on this. He said some other cultures have reverence for elders and that Pelosi is emmaverybo Nov 2019 #2
Wisdom is the key The Valley Below Nov 2019 #13
The speaker of the house is one of 435, can be demoted easily, dawg day Nov 2019 #3
I would love to have an elder statesperson leading us. It is going to happen most likely. All emmaverybo Nov 2019 #6
We do have an order of sucsesstion for a reason as well SterlingPound Nov 2019 #11
What damage would Biden do? treestar Nov 2019 #20
My question is why MSNBC has an overt supporter of one of the candidates tishaLA Nov 2019 #4
I changed channels when Micheal Moore came on Gothmog Nov 2019 #5
Michael made many good points. Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #7
Like Bernie does, we all need to... JoeOtterbein Nov 2019 #8
Good point, needs honing. People age differently! nt greyl Nov 2019 #9
LOL awesomerwb1 Nov 2019 #10
I can't stand MM... he's in it for himself...nothing more Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #12
I presume you have seen none of his documentaries Fragment Nov 2019 #14
Thank you, well said indeed. Magoo48 Nov 2019 #15
Many reasons.. right off the top he pals around with Susan Sarandon and glen greenwald Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #17
He has decided to believe that the last Democratic primary was rigged and that betsuni Nov 2019 #18
Post removed Post removed Nov 2019 #23
An eighty year old coming off of a heart attack is too old. TidalWave46 Nov 2019 #16
Some will always make exceptions when it comes to Senator Sanders. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #21
 

Jewls2

(218 posts)
1. The obvious, Speaker and Pres is not the same.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 01:54 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. Equal branch head
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 09:04 AM
Nov 2019

Why is the presidency so special? We make too big a deal over it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Jewls2

(218 posts)
24. The greatest difference is one has recently had an heart attack and has heart damage, and the other
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 02:26 PM
Nov 2019

hasn't.

one is among 434 others, one is only one.

One is already the leader of the world while the other is third in line.

One is not a Democrat so who knows who the VP pick would be so that heart attack matters and the other is a solid Dem.

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thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
22. Though speaker is third in line for the presidency, right after VP!
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 09:28 AM
Nov 2019

But yeah, it's so unlikely, that people probably don't really think about suitability to be president as a qualification for speaker.

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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
2. He was great on this. He said some other cultures have reverence for elders and that Pelosi is
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 01:54 AM
Nov 2019

proof that in crisis we need to turn to those elders who are wise.

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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
13. Wisdom is the key
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 03:11 AM
Nov 2019

Elders who are wise and know how to build winning coalitions through charm, diplomacy, and force-of-personality are leaders we should treasure and admire.

Those who are grumpy, self-centered, or who alienate others? Not so much.

It isn't about age, it is about character.

Nancy is a peach!

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dawg day

(7,947 posts)
3. The speaker of the house is one of 435, can be demoted easily,
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 01:55 AM
Nov 2019

And doesn't have access to the nuclear codes or get to nominate federal judges.

And a Congressperson's term is only 2 years.

False equivalence. The damage a speaker can do is far less than a president can do, and it's easier to get a speaker out, no impeachment needed.

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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
6. I would love to have an elder statesperson leading us. It is going to happen most likely. All
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 02:09 AM
Nov 2019

your points are true. However, youth is not a guarantee. JFK was chronically ill, in terrible pain. Years ago, given the state of medicine,
we had presidents in less good health than many healthy elders today.

Healthy elders in their seventies have a good chance of going on to their nineties in good health and of sound mind. Indeed, the times they are a changing. They all made it this far because they take care of themselves, have had access to top healthcare, and are genetically sound. Inexperience is not a good thing. And no, the younger candidates fall far short of the extraordinary Obama.

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SterlingPound

(428 posts)
11. We do have an order of sucsesstion for a reason as well
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 02:37 AM
Nov 2019

the USA is bigger than any one man or woman!

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
20. What damage would Biden do?
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 09:06 AM
Nov 2019

And the Dotard is getting slapped down by the courts. Dubya did damage and he was not old.

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tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
4. My question is why MSNBC has an overt supporter of one of the candidates
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 01:58 AM
Nov 2019

on their coverage. I'm happy that a white guy collecting social security has endorsed the junior senator from VT, but there are tons of celebrities who have avoided endorsing candidates for the presidency who are available.

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Gothmog

(145,264 posts)
5. I changed channels when Micheal Moore came on
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 02:09 AM
Nov 2019

I watched Sam Bee on DVM rather than listen to Moore

MSNBC made a big mistake having Moore on

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Uncle Joe

(58,363 posts)
7. Michael made many good points.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 02:10 AM
Nov 2019

Thanks for the thread JoeOtterbein.

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JoeOtterbein

(7,701 posts)
8. Like Bernie does, we all need to...
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 02:11 AM
Nov 2019

...Hope Bigger!

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greyl

(22,990 posts)
9. Good point, needs honing. People age differently! nt
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 02:16 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
10. LOL
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 02:30 AM
Nov 2019

The smell of desperation.

Pelosi has a track record of success in the House. Bernie has a couple post offices and....... zzzzzzz

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Thekaspervote

(32,769 posts)
12. I can't stand MM... he's in it for himself...nothing more
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 03:05 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Fragment

(68 posts)
14. I presume you have seen none of his documentaries
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 04:05 AM
Nov 2019

I have seen them all. He is a true patriot, risking everything to inform his fellow Americans at great risk to his life, and he has been attacked.

I can’t imagine (and I am very creative) how you arrived at your opinion.

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Magoo48

(4,709 posts)
15. Thank you, well said indeed.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 07:27 AM
Nov 2019
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Thekaspervote

(32,769 posts)
17. Many reasons.. right off the top he pals around with Susan Sarandon and glen greenwald
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 08:04 AM
Nov 2019

Did finally wake up regarding Julian assange
Critic of President Obama
Supports justice democrats
Critic of speaker Nancy Pelosi
https://www.newsweek.com/michael-moore-nancy-pelosi-midterms-1198337
Criticizes moderate Dems says aoc is the leader of the party.... yet there’s this eye popping number

Voters are fairly clear about what they would like from a Democrat. They prefer, by 82% to 11%, one who promises to find common ground over one who promises to fight for a progressive agenda; and they prefer a moderate over a liberal, 75% to 19%.

More at the link
https://www.yahoo.com/news/meet-swing-voters-might-decide-193019533.html

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betsuni

(25,531 posts)
18. He has decided to believe that the last Democratic primary was rigged and that
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 08:57 AM
Nov 2019

the Democratic Party is the same as the Republican Party. His current opinions have nothing to do with his past work.

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Response to betsuni (Reply #18)

 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
16. An eighty year old coming off of a heart attack is too old.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 07:35 AM
Nov 2019

Moore seems to be slipping upstairs a bit. Been going on for a couple of years.

I guess this is a good question if one is all about comparing apples and oranges. There is such limited intellect in the question that it’s best to just let it stands. The mockery is in his own words. I can’t top that level of ignorance, and I try hard.

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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
21. Some will always make exceptions when it comes to Senator Sanders.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 09:09 AM
Nov 2019

If you know what I mean. lol

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