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Renew Deal

(81,879 posts)
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:03 PM Mar 2019

The early success of Buttigieg, Beto, and Harris is a warning to Biden and others

I’m hoping that Joe Biden can see the writing on the wall. The country and particularly Democrats are primed to move in a new direction. Biden is from a different era and there is no going back. He should make the best decision for himself and the country and not run. Biden will lose. He will be tarnished by the loss. It’s time to move on.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
1. With Biden not even into the race and pulling that high...
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:10 PM
Mar 2019

I wouldn't take that as a warning.

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Renew Deal

(81,879 posts)
3. People aren't paying attention yet
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:13 PM
Mar 2019

Early front runners rarely hold up, especially in big fields. If they did, Lieberman and Scott Walker would be President. The front runner won’t be obvious until sometime between December and the NH primary.

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TwilightZone

(25,493 posts)
2. He's leading in national polls and in several states, without even running yet.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:11 PM
Mar 2019

How is that "the writing on the wall"?

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Renew Deal

(81,879 posts)
6. It's all the movement underneath that.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:14 PM
Mar 2019

The support is soft and based off of name recognition.

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TwilightZone

(25,493 posts)
11. There's little or no evidence of that.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:16 PM
Mar 2019

He's also the strongest candidate in head-to-head national polls against Trump.

It's all based on early-poll data, which means little. It's nearly a year to the first primary. Claiming that early trends indicate that there's no reason for him to run is misguided, at best. Never mind that there seems to be little basis for your assertions.

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R B Garr

(16,993 posts)
15. Real results are that liberal California voted against Bernie
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:36 PM
Mar 2019

in 2016 and 2018. His group’s attacks on Feinstein backfired in 2018. The candidates you mentioned have backed away from some of “the movement”.

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JI7

(89,276 posts)
4. Biden is leading without even being in the race
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:13 PM
Mar 2019

while at this point I think he should maybe not run its misleading to say people are moving away from him.

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Renew Deal

(81,879 posts)
9. It's not that they're moving away from him yet
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:16 PM
Mar 2019

It’s the movement amongst the alternatives.

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
5. I think you are right that Biden will lose to the younger generation
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:14 PM
Mar 2019

But that doesn't mean he shouldn't run. Let the chips fall were they may.

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Renew Deal

(81,879 posts)
7. I like him a lot as a person
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:14 PM
Mar 2019

I don’t want to see him hurt.

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
10. He's been through a lot in his life. He'll be fine either way.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:16 PM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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JI7

(89,276 posts)
12. he has been hurt in far worse ways in his life
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:17 PM
Mar 2019
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emulatorloo

(44,192 posts)
17. He's a tough man.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:46 PM
Mar 2019

I also think your predictions may not come true should he announce. Polling I have seen shows he has multigenerational support, from millennials on up

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OrlandoDem2

(2,070 posts)
8. When Biden declares his candidacy it'll totally change the race and the news cycle.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:15 PM
Mar 2019

The news cycle will move from the Mueller report to Biden leading the pack and polling higher than Trump.

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Thekaspervote

(32,803 posts)
13. There Are several things Biden has going for us the campaign and the country
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:23 PM
Mar 2019

Big name recognition including internationally

The ability to step into the job on day one

Worldwide leaders are begging him to run

He will surround himself with the smartest and the best

No doubt he will bring back many of the Obama era policies

He has the country’s best interest at heart and if he feels the day comes he will not blink and step aside

Having said that, I will happily work and vote for our candidate who ever that might be

If I were to vote in a presidential
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emulatorloo

(44,192 posts)
18. Undecided yet, but you are correct on all points
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:49 PM
Mar 2019
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BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
14. Completely agree.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:28 PM
Mar 2019

Enjoy your retirement and just forget it, Joe. I have no idea why anyone would want to be president when they're 80 years old.

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
16. One of the oldest principles in politics is that early campaigns tend to peak too soon.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:38 PM
Mar 2019
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