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lapucelle

(18,303 posts)
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 11:40 AM Mar 2019

"Happy Anniversary, Bernie! (Well, sort of.)"

From Jennifer Rubin at WaPo:

We should recognize a special day for presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), an anniversary of sorts. One month ago, he promised during a town hall with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer to release his tax returns “soon”:

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A month is more than enough to make a few fixes (!), as Sanders described it. There is no excuse whatsoever not to release nine years of taxes preceding 2018. They were completed long ago, and other than blacking out personal information (e.g. phone number, Social Security number), nothing should need to be done other than to post them online.

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There is a way to prompt Sanders to finally keep his promise: No more campaign donations until he releases 10 years of tax returns. Period. It’s sad it may come to this, but what other recourse do Democratic voters have at this stage?

Now, in the unfortunate event that Sanders hasn’t released his tax returns by the Iowa contest, no Democrat should caucus for him. If they do then, Democrats may wind up in the situation in which a candidate who has not released a complete picture of his taxes either gets the nomination (!) or at the very least goes to the convention with delegates and thereby helps determine the winner, the vice-presidential pick or some significant policy issue. That would be entirely unacceptable for a party that has railed against Trump’s financial secrecy. Accordingly, that is why he should not be able to win a single delegate without first releasing 10 years of tax returns. It’s long past “soon.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/03/25/happy-anniversary-bernie-well-sort/?utm_term=.d3954d40f91d
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"Happy Anniversary, Bernie! (Well, sort of.)" (Original Post) lapucelle Mar 2019 OP
You people just don't get the revolution. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #1
lol Cha Mar 2019 #3
Is that bird going to BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #8
Shine the Light! Cha Mar 2019 #2
Isn't Jennifer Rubin a conservative blogger of Right Turn? Or is this a different person? aikoaiko Mar 2019 #4
It doesn't matter if it's Rubin or Ronald McDonald BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #5
No, the end is her giving advice on how to handle Bernie. Did you not read the OP or oped piece? aikoaiko Mar 2019 #6
It is not a big deal to you that he doesn't keep his promises? lunamagica Mar 2019 #14
It is to me. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #22
It is to me too, Sheshe. A man is as good as his word. Sanders is showing us his word isn't lunamagica Mar 2019 #24
Correct, lunamagica. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #25
Let's all ignore the tax returns BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #9
So what? Sanders has only himself to blame, ad hominem deflections notwithstanding. LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #11
Yeah, Rubin is a right winger melman Mar 2019 #23
K&R BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #7
30 days, 30 weeks, 30 months, 30 years, 30 decades. MyNameGoesHere Mar 2019 #10
It's maybe 50K democratic socialists on a good day Hortensis Mar 2019 #12
A month already? Looks like the senator doesn't keep his promises. lunamagica Mar 2019 #13
K&R! Sadly, this won't matter to his staunchest supporters. But he should be constantly reminded Tarheel_Dem Mar 2019 #15
Soon sheshe2 Mar 2019 #16
Time is elitist status quo establishment. betsuni Mar 2019 #17
Is it soon yet? Gothmog Mar 2019 #18
Maybe we need to ask instead, what "soon" means in Bernie years. nt Blue_true Mar 2019 #19
First, you have to add one month for every time he holds a rally, then LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #20
Ehhh, you forgot to multiply by the number of oligarchs that Bernie still has to find. Blue_true Mar 2019 #21
Kirsten Gillibrand released her 2018 tax returns on Wednesday Gothmog Mar 2019 #26
I thought it was Elizabeth? Cha Mar 2019 #31
kick nt BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #27
I think he is waiting for the platinum anniversary. NT WeekiWater Mar 2019 #28
K&R! Thanks for the reminder, lapucelle! Sanders R B Garr Mar 2019 #29
K Cha Mar 2019 #30
Jonathan Capehart.. Cha Mar 2019 #32
Inslee, a 2020 presidential hopeful, released his tax returns this morning. Gothmog Mar 2019 #33
Good for Inslee Andy823 Mar 2019 #34
I can't wait for the debates. lapucelle Mar 2019 #35
And we won't hear any complaints about non-existent "transcripts", either. George II Mar 2019 #36
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
1. You people just don't get the revolution.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 11:47 AM
Mar 2019

It's not about Sanders. It's about you. I promise. Look over there.... Is that a bird?

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BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
8. Is that bird going to
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 01:59 PM
Mar 2019

land on a podium or something?

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Cha

(297,503 posts)
2. Shine the Light!
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 11:48 AM
Mar 2019

Full Transparency for all Dems.

What states are making it a law to show tax returns now? You'd think that would be a big enough incentive.

Mahalo, lapucelle

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aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
4. Isn't Jennifer Rubin a conservative blogger of Right Turn? Or is this a different person?
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 12:14 PM
Mar 2019

if the former, I caution taking her advice.

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BannonsLiver

(16,434 posts)
5. It doesn't matter if it's Rubin or Ronald McDonald
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 12:28 PM
Mar 2019

He said he is going to release them but thus far has not. That’s the beginning and the end of it.

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aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
6. No, the end is her giving advice on how to handle Bernie. Did you not read the OP or oped piece?
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 12:46 PM
Mar 2019


But yes, Bernie should keep his work and release his tax returns as promised.

Not a big deal to me, but it is to some people.
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lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
14. It is not a big deal to you that he doesn't keep his promises?
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 03:36 PM
Mar 2019
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lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
24. It is to me too, Sheshe. A man is as good as his word. Sanders is showing us his word isn't
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 01:28 AM
Mar 2019

worth much

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sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
25. Correct, lunamagica.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 01:43 AM
Mar 2019
A man is as good as his word.


I guess we need to understand the meaning of soon.

soon
/so͞on/Submit
adverb
1.
in or after a short time.
"everyone will soon know the truth"
synonyms: in a short time, shortly, presently, in the near future, before long, in a little while, in a minute, in a moment, in an instant, in a twinkling, in the twinkling of an eye, before you know it, any minute (now), any day (now), any time (now), by and by; informalpronto, in (less than) no time, in no time (at all), in a jiffy, in two shakes, in two shakes of a lamb's tail, before you can say Jack Robinson; informalsharpish, in a tick, in two ticks; dateddirectly; archaicanon; literaryere long
"she'll be there soon"

https://www.google.com/search?q=Soon&rlz=1C1QXKF_enUS692US706&oq=Soon&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j0l5.5955j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

"in two shakes of a lambs tail" ?
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BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
9. Let's all ignore the tax returns
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 02:01 PM
Mar 2019

and train our cross-hairs on the messenger.

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
11. So what? Sanders has only himself to blame, ad hominem deflections notwithstanding.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 02:27 PM
Mar 2019
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melman

(7,681 posts)
23. Yeah, Rubin is a right winger
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:13 PM
Mar 2019

Not only wouldn't I take her advice, I'd be wary of anyone that suggests it.

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MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
10. 30 days, 30 weeks, 30 months, 30 years, 30 decades.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 02:17 PM
Mar 2019

The Independent Senator from Vermont says we'll get them. Although I am not sure when hell freezes over converts to time.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. It's maybe 50K democratic socialists on a good day
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 03:12 PM
Mar 2019

and 1K or so socialists who have no recourse. If they all established residency, they might be able to take over Pascagoula, MS -- if the older residents didn't realize they needed to turn out or have a "revolution" foisted on them.

I always marvel that their world doesn't seem to include Republicans, no religious right, no neofascist authoritarians, no 40 million white supremacists, no uberpowerful right-wing billionaires. Apparently if their thinking ever accidentally approaches that "dog who caught the bus" point, they hit the brakes and retreat into some fantasy where 60-80M Democratic voters all see the light of their wisdom and and fall in behind their leader. And the far bigger revolution growing on the right simply doesn't exist.

No wonder so many imagine Putin's working on their side. If they've never learned to fear our own right, how much less likely is it that they have the sense to fear him?

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lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
13. A month already? Looks like the senator doesn't keep his promises.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 03:34 PM
Mar 2019
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Tarheel_Dem

(31,237 posts)
15. K&R! Sadly, this won't matter to his staunchest supporters. But he should be constantly reminded
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 04:39 PM
Mar 2019

of his promise.

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sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
16. Soon
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 05:15 PM
Mar 2019

soon
/so͞on/Submit
adverb
1.
in or after a short time.
"everyone will soon know the truth"
synonyms: in a short time, shortly, presently, in the near future, before long, in a little while, in a minute, in a moment, in an instant, in a twinkling, in the twinkling of an eye, before you know it, any minute (now), any day (now), any time (now), by and by; informalpronto, in (less than) no time, in no time (at all), in a jiffy, in two shakes, in two shakes of a lamb's tail, before you can say Jack Robinson; informalsharpish, in a tick, in two ticks; dateddirectly; archaicanon; literaryere long
"she'll be there soon"

https://www.google.com/search?q=Soon&rlz=1C1QXKF_enUS692US706&oq=Soon&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.8534j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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betsuni

(25,593 posts)
17. Time is elitist status quo establishment.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:07 PM
Mar 2019
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. Maybe we need to ask instead, what "soon" means in Bernie years. nt
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:54 PM
Mar 2019
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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
20. First, you have to add one month for every time he holds a rally, then
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:57 PM
Mar 2019

multiply that by how much birds like him . . .

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. Ehhh, you forgot to multiply by the number of oligarchs that Bernie still has to find.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 07:04 PM
Mar 2019

Maybe we see those oligarchs before his tax returns. But, Bernie says his tax returns are boring and simple. I just didn't realize that boring and simple could be so drawn out.

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Gothmog

(145,481 posts)
26. Kirsten Gillibrand released her 2018 tax returns on Wednesday
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 10:26 AM
Mar 2019
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Cha

(297,503 posts)
31. I thought it was Elizabeth?
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 05:10 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Wed Mar 27, 2019, 05:46 PM - Edit history (1)

Never mind.. Elizabeth's aren't 2018's Yet!

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
28. I think he is waiting for the platinum anniversary. NT
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 02:02 PM
Mar 2019
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R B Garr

(16,967 posts)
29. K&R! Thanks for the reminder, lapucelle! Sanders
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 02:12 PM
Mar 2019

has also said his wife was going to fetch their taxes YEARS ago. This past CNN townhall promise really looks suspicious—he was saying they had to go through them—what does that mean??

This whole episode proves he really isn’t in the moral position to be chastising others about finances and transparency.

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Gothmog

(145,481 posts)
33. Inslee, a 2020 presidential hopeful, released his tax returns this morning.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 10:15 AM
Mar 2019
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Andy823

(11,495 posts)
34. Good for Inslee
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 10:41 AM
Mar 2019

I really like him, and Harris.

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lapucelle

(18,303 posts)
35. I can't wait for the debates.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 07:44 PM
Mar 2019

No one will walk a fine line when it comes to this issue.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
36. And we won't hear any complaints about non-existent "transcripts", either.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 08:03 PM
Mar 2019
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