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swag

(26,487 posts)
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:58 AM Jan 2020

Latest smear against Biden, coming to a timeline near you

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1212579598183084032.html

"A wildly out of context Biden clip is circulating on Twitter.

He spoke for 10+ minutes in NH about his history of work against domestic violence and sex assault, which he repeatedly described as a "cultural problem" he argued goes back to permissive English common law. 1/3

He told a story about past English judges tolerating wife-beating. Minutes later, returning to his argument about how American permissiveness toward the abuse of women descends from centuries-old English permissiveness, he said this:



In summary, the clip circulating on Twitter omits 1) the entire subject of Biden's comments; 2) Biden saying "Folks, this is about changing the culture" at the beginning; 3) Biden explaining at the end that he was talking about a culture "that says it's alright" to abuse.

Biden's claims about the roots of domestic violence in America can certainly be disputed -- I'm not sure if he has all of his old-England history correct -- but he certainly wasn't making some general argument that America is solely a country of European culture, or something."
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Latest smear against Biden, coming to a timeline near you (Original Post) swag Jan 2020 OP
Sounds similar to the bullshit they tried to do against Hillary still_one Jan 2020 #1
Parker Molloy was all over this this am, as well Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #2
David Sirota has been circulating that video. George II Jan 2020 #3
Shocker swag Jan 2020 #9
And then the mainstream media PatSeg Jan 2020 #4
They parse every word Joe says. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #5
I guess $34 million buys a lot of bullshit BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #6
From Neera Tamden Gothmog Jan 2020 #7
It's a huge sign of Weakness & Desperation.. and Cha Jan 2020 #10
Clever video editing notwithstanding, is he saying the culture of white people is responsible for progressoid Jan 2020 #8
Full real video here OKNancy Jan 2020 #11
A deceptively edited video of Joe Biden signals what's coming Gothmog Jan 2020 #12
 

still_one

(92,256 posts)
1. Sounds similar to the bullshit they tried to do against Hillary
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:10 AM
Jan 2020
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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
2. Parker Molloy was all over this this am, as well
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:13 AM
Jan 2020



The whole thread is worth the read. ;thumbsup:
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George II

(67,782 posts)
3. David Sirota has been circulating that video.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:14 AM
Jan 2020
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PatSeg

(47,520 posts)
4. And then the mainstream media
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:18 AM
Jan 2020

will take this distorted story and amplify it. This is why it is hard for politicians to come across as authentic, because they often are weighing every single word they say, knowing someone, somewhere will quote them out of context and create a story where there is none. Hopefully Joe won't give into the pressure to talk in artificial political-speak and maintain that human connection that he does so well.

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LakeArenal

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5. They parse every word Joe says.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:44 AM
Jan 2020

Find the least flattering definition of a word then work the hell out of it.

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BannonsLiver

(16,401 posts)
6. I guess $34 million buys a lot of bullshit
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:46 AM
Jan 2020
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Cha

(297,340 posts)
10. It's a huge sign of Weakness & Desperation.. and
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 01:28 PM
Jan 2020

we know this to be true. Retweeted!

Thanks, Goth!

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progressoid

(49,992 posts)
8. Clever video editing notwithstanding, is he saying the culture of white people is responsible for
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:18 PM
Jan 2020

"domestic violence and sex [sic] assault?"

I'm pretty sure that all cultures have a history of domestic violence and sexual assault.

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Gothmog

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12. A deceptively edited video of Joe Biden signals what's coming
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 03:16 PM
Jan 2020



A video that was edited in a monumentally dishonest fashion to make Joe Biden sound racist just circulated all over Twitter. Distressingly, some reporters and people with large Twitter followings tweeted out the video, before others drew their attention to the full context, causing them to backtrack
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It is simply incredible that anyone in the business of informing people would circulate a video like this before verifying the full context. Have we really learned nothing in the past few years? One hopes this episode will be taken as a cautionary tale of what’s coming.

The video in question, which your humble blogger will not link to, shows only 19 seconds of a 13-minute monologue that Biden delivered in New Hampshire. Biden had been asked by an audience member to speak about his work and his agenda on sexual assault and domestic violence....

One of the original purveyors of this disinformation (again, we won’t link) is still pretending this was an honest depiction, and is accusing those who supplied the corrective context of being the “real” purveyors of disinformation. Take this as a glimpse of what’s coming.....

All this is a sign of what the Democratic nominee could face. It’s no wonder that some Democrats are worried we might even see “deepfake” media manipulations. Imagine such ultra-sophisticated video distortions of Biden’s rambles, retweeted by Trump, and perhaps even by reporters.

Trump views disinformation not as a scourge to be combated in the name of protecting our democracy, but as an ally. In this particular case, Trump has not retweeted the video of Biden — yet. But let’s try to learn from this.
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