Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBernie says he will "probably not" be releasing his full medical records after all.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bernie-sanders-promised-to-disclose-his-medical-records-what-happened/2020/01/04/9769ed08-2e67-11ea-bcd4-24597950008f_story.html?fbclid=IwAR1r9hiW4__kxrkb4BLO808K_7tEhj_20bj2w1ZyQc0AhJZEgylBC_WrBzcAt 78, Mr. Sanders, too, would be the oldest president if elected, and in October he suffered a heart attack. He was briefly off the campaign trail but returned with vigor and a promise to release his medical records.
Of course, were of course, people do have a right to know about the health of a senator and someone running for president of the United States, full disclosure, Mr. Sanders told CNNs Sanjay Gupta. And, we will make at the appropriate time, all of our medical records public for you or anybody else who wants to see them. Mr. Sanders this week released some information letters from three doctors attesting to his fitness for office but it fell far short of his promise of full disclosure. When pressed by reporters if more information would be released, he said, Probably not.
Mr. Sanders, like everyone running for president and currently serving as president, should be totally forthcoming about his health. The inadequacy of doctor letters in lieu of records was underscored in 2016 by the ludicrous letter from then-candidate Donald Trumps gastroenterologist. So far, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), 70, has provided the most information, releasing a letter from her physician and five pages of supporting medical data. Former vice president Joe Biden, 77, released a three-page letter from his physician outlining his current condition and medical history.
Here are the letters:
https://www.axios.com/bernie-sanders-health-doctors-heart-attack-919777ec-58ff-4ee8-9cc8-c1789a5cf00e.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,325 posts)follow through would be rightfully criticized if they pulled that
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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ritapria
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Proof ?... .. ..Bernie had 3 doctors describing him as fit to run a vigorous campaign and serve as President . 3 physicians , including his longtime doctor, were willing to risk their careers to lie for Bernie ? ...I doubt it " The Sanders campaign noted ... Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren have released similiar physician's notes detailing good health"... from Intelligencer (December 30, 2019) From HuffPost : "Bernie Sanders Releases Doctors' Notes Saying He's Fit to Serve " .. From My Champlain Valley.com .Article entitled " Sanders releases Medical Records , Physician letter says he's Healthy " : .Brian Monahan,the attending physician for Congress and Sanders primary doctor .....Monahan's letter contains Sanders health history and results from recent laboratory tests conducted during his recovery from a heart attack in October ..Monahan said he is in good health and can campaign without any limitation " .. .
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
maximusveritas
(2,915 posts)but the wording was bad, so deleted
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,496 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
questionseverything
(9,657 posts)so I assume you are upset at all 3 of them?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,496 posts)you know the guy who had a heart attack on stage?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
questionseverything
(9,657 posts)from biden's letter
Aside from his gallbladder surgery in 2003, Biden did have a cerebral aneurysm in 1988, which was repaired surgically and has not recurred, the report said. Having spent "a good deal of time in the sun in his youth," Biden has had several localized, non-melanoma skin cancers removed, O'Connor's report said.
I think in case biden is our nominee we need to stop with this highlighting of health issues
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
greatauntoftriplets
(175,748 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
greatauntoftriplets
(175,748 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)enough from Bernie three doctors.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)...that one candidate hasn't had a major medical issue for more than 30 years.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)doesn't have AFib, like the other front runner does. Bidens letter from his doctor states he has AFib
https://go.joebiden.com/page/-/CiU2iAa4Ig_%20j5EQzueoad.pdf
Atrial fibrillation (also called AFib or AF) is a quivering or irregular heartbeat (arrhythmia) that can lead to blood clots, stroke, heart failure and other heart-related complications.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,787 posts)A man his age having suffering an MI has a life expectancy of 3 years. He needs to be transparent. It will not help his campaign to hide it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)takes blood thinners from his near fatal blood clot.
https://go.joebiden.com/page/-/CiU2iAa4Ig_%20j5EQzueoad.pdf
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)before the first primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)doctor released per Biden's request? I'll wait here.
https://go.joebiden.com/page/-/CiU2iAa4Ig_%20j5EQzueoad.pdf
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
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Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)Bernie's heart attack was a couple months ago.
If everything is hunky dory, why has Bernie gone back on his promise to release his full records?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)Biden has a contact link on his website, you could ask him:
https://go.joebiden.com/page/s/contact-us
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)I take them at their word. I seriously doubt there will be more released.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)information. People seem very vested in their attempt to gin up doubts about Bernie's health and deliberately ignore the fact that his doctors also released a summary. Did you know that people who have been given a link to his doctor summary saying he's in good heath, his heart is fine and he's off any heart meds are still sure he's going to have a heart attack and die any second. Some are suggesting that he bribed his doctors just like Trump did. So yeah, I'm going to push back on that bullshit. One and done George. Have a good one. .
I'm glad you are keeping track George.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)stage IV cancers can now live longer than that. Please stop.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)But, you're right, its ridiculous some of the assumptions that are being made about Bernie for the sole purpose of bashing him... gee, I wonder what they fear from a candidate who sposedly has no chance against Biden. hmmmm...
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lark
(23,138 posts)Where is the evidence, except what he or his supporters have said? One healthy candidate released his records, the other hides them. Who should we believe on this issue the one who has hidden all records, or the truth revealer?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)I would ask why you would make an accusation like that when you have no clue what is going on. But I can see why. Let me clear it up for you. Both said they would release their medical records, Joe Biden's doctor released a summary of his health. Bernie's doctors released a summary of his health. The outrage is pathetic but typical.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lark
(23,138 posts)I'm really curious to see if either will release more information - think they both should, especially someone who had a heart attack recently and anyone who is over 70 - including Biden.
You are right that I don't personally like Sanders, I was a supporter in 16 but think he betrayed us with lackluster support for Clinton and the fact that so many of his supporters voted drumpf. So, no, he's not my pick for the primaries. I do pledge to work and vote for him if he's the general candidate of our party - would you do the same for Joe? If so, excellent!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,846 posts)He went to a clinic and came out with a huge bandage on his forehead.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)and a couple other letters from docs who administered a couple of tests.
Why did he go back on his promise?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)summary from his doctor since 2009 qualify as a broken promise? I'll take this bullshit serious when I see people complain about his three page letter and his broken promise.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/461355-biden-commits-to-releasing-medical-records-before-primaries
Biden says he'll release medical records before primaries
Biden made the pledge while talking to reporters in Texas after the latest Democratic debate the night before in which a younger rival jabbed at the former vice president's memory.
The former vice president pushed back on a question about whether he would release his records to address any "concerns."
What the hell concerns, man?" Biden asked the reporter. "You want to wrestle?
Before theres a first vote, Ill release my medical records," he added when pressed. "Theres no reason for me to not release my medical records."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)Feel free to post about Biden's broken promise, if he broke one. This is about Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)If ? I gave you the link to his promise to release his medical records. . Due to the phony bullshit outrage over Bernie's broken promise to released his medical records, I feel very free to post about Biden's broken promise to release his medical rerecords. .
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/461355-biden-commits-to-releasing-medical-records-before-primaries
The former vice president pushed back on a question about whether he would release his records to address any "concerns."
What the hell concerns, man?" Biden asked the reporter. "You want to wrestle?
Before theres a first vote, Ill release my medical records," he added when pressed. "Theres no reason for me to not release my medical records."
See that? I'll release my medical records.
Biden's own words.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,473 posts)Try to keep up.
https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2019-12-17/biden-releases-medical-records
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
questionseverything
(9,657 posts)just like warren did
you try and keep up
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dsc
(52,166 posts)he takes cholesterol lowering drugs.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)They discontinued the blood thinners and beta blockers he was put on that are given to heart attack patients. His treadmill stress teat showed that he was able to exercise to a level that is approximately 50% higher than other men his age with a similar diagnosis. Sanders is now entirely asymptomatic.
Biden takes an anticoagulant ( Eliquis) for his AFib. Biden also takes Crestor, a cholesterol drug to control his cholesterol.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,370 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MerryBlooms
(11,770 posts)If there's nothing to worry about, just release the whole damn report. I'm so fooking tired of these ridiculous political games!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,679 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mike Nelson
(9,961 posts)... be the key. If he loses support, and internal polling shows this is a problem, I imagine he will reconsider. If he does not lose support, we got all the information. Why release more?
It's sad, but we're moving toward candidates not releasing tax and accurate health information. Hopefully, laws can be enacted that end this trend.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)then it puts ZERO pressure on Trump to release his full medical records, which we've still never seen.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,787 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Is this a disqualifer?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)his full record, including whatever incident sent him to the hospital a couple months ago, if our candidate -- even one who had a heart attack -- doesn't share full records?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
and maybe the saddest thing about him is all the yeses, noes, maybes about everything but never a definitive answer about anything...and now this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,325 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)or so we are told.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/461355-biden-commits-to-releasing-medical-records-before-primaries
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,473 posts)Your article says that Biden would release them "before the primaries", which he did.
Reading is fundamental.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)and a few paragraphs from doctors who ran a couple tests.
Both he and Biden should release records as detailed as Elizabeth Warren's
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elizabeth-warren-medical-records-democratic-primary_n_5de991b1e4b0d50f32b100dc
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)Other candidates, and other Presidents, have in the past.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,120 posts)than commenting on or justifying Biden's broken promise to release his medical records and instead releasing a doctors summary, just as Bernie did.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/461355-biden-commits-to-releasing-medical-records-before-primaries
https://go.joebiden.com/page/-/CiU2iAa4Ig_%20j5EQzueoad.pdf
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)what medical information Bernie releases? This feigned outraged is how you know Bernie is kickin' ass and takin' names.
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LakeArenal
(28,835 posts)No surprise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
eShirl
(18,496 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)He should have dropped out two months ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)HAVE RUN AT ALL!! WELL, AT LEAST THAT'S PROGRESS... SO THANK YOU FOR THAT!!
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
defacto7
(13,485 posts)I just wish I didn't have to wish.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,366 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueTsunami2018
(3,498 posts)Тяцмр quite obviously did this, its the new normal.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RandySF
(59,086 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StevieM
(10,500 posts)It would have 20 times as big of a story as it was when it was done in reverse.
We would still be hearing about it, constantly, to this day.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Different set of rules for St. Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)after suffering a heart attack, like Bernie has, I don't think anyone would raise the slightest fuss. It would take a far more serious health issue than a heart attack to slow The Bern down... he's as strong as a horse and can outpace politicians half his age!!
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Cha
(297,496 posts)and keeping it front and center. BS needs to be held accountable like anyone else would.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasBushwhacker
(20,209 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,496 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)coronary arteries -- in addition to the one that was stented because it was near completely blocked.
They will also probably show that he is still on DAPT (dual anti-platelet therapy) under AHA and ACC guidelines contrary to what his doctor wrote in the letter.
I was never going to hold my breath that he was going to release the records.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,869 posts)This is the game he always plays.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)that he is the healthiest man alive. The man had a heart attack and is hiding his medical records. Yet his supporters have no problem with that. SMH
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I really thought hed back out of that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Bernie does not keep his word.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,496 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)Americans are not going to elect an 80 year old man who just had a heart attack and wont release his medical records.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lark
(23,138 posts)Every time he resists transparency, which is almost always, he just sinks lower with people who are paying attention and want a real difference.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,625 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)A few "whataboutisms", followed by a handful of goalposts being moved and the revisionism is complete.
Watching a quote-unquote revolution being built on sand is bemusing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,481 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,496 posts)always dragging on others for not being perfect.. why is he not releasing all his medical reports?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)and I would vote for him vs Trump. That's a no brainer.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,496 posts)release all the medical reports?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)This is troubling.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bummfuzzle
(154 posts)release the medical records and our candidates have laid off Sanders health issue because we would see in the medical records the damage done and possibility of future issues. But, now that he is not going to release the records, our candidates should be able to challenge a man at 80 having a heart attack just a couple months ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Zeus69
(391 posts)I expect Bernie to have a target on him this Tuesday. Will be interesting to see how it goes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bummfuzzle
(154 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
getagrip_already
(14,816 posts)If he isnt transparent now, why would anyone expect him to be as potus?
Is that what we want? Another 4 years of trump?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden