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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 09:57 PM Jan 2020

While running for President in 2007, Joe Biden was open to cutting Social Security and Medicare.

From a Meet the Press interview on April 29, 2007 with Tim Russert. Here's a snippet of the transcript. Full transcript can be found by clicking the following link.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/18381961/ns/meet_the_press/t/mtp-transcript-april/#.XhknT4h7mUk

MR. RUSSERT: But, senator, we have a deficit. We have Social Security and Medicare looming. The number of people on Social Security and Medicare is now 40 million people. It’s going to be 80 million in 15 years. Would you consider looking at those programs, age of eligibility...

SEN. BIDEN: Absolutely.

MR. RUSSERT: ...cost of living, put it all on the table.

SEN. BIDEN: The answer is absolutely. You have to. You know, it’s—one of the things that my, you know, the political advisers say to me is, “Whoa, don’t touch that third”—look, the American people aren’t stupid. It’s a real simple proposition. We have to do—you and I were talking about Bob Dole earlier. I was one of five people—I was the junior guy in the meeting with Bob Dole and George Mitchell when we put Social Security on the right path for 60 years. I’ll never forget what Bob Dole said. After we reached an agreement about gradually raising the retirement age, etc., he said, “Look, here’s the deal, we all put our foot in the boat one at a time.” And he kicked—he stepped like he was stepping into a boat. “And we all make the following deal. If any one of the challengers running against the incumbent Democrat or Republicans attack us on this point, we’ll all stay together.” That’s the kind of leadership that is needed. Social Security’s not the hard one to solve. Medicare, that is the gorilla in the room, and you’ve got to put all of it on the table.

MR. RUSSERT: Everything.

SEN. BIDEN: Everything. You’ve got to.
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While running for President in 2007, Joe Biden was open to cutting Social Security and Medicare. (Original Post) HerbChestnut Jan 2020 OP
Fake News -- Already debunked and a malicious mischaracterization. NYMinute Jan 2020 #1
Really? A direct quote is fake news? HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #2
Post the WHOLE interview - not cherry-picked snippets. NYMinute Jan 2020 #3
The whole interview is too long. That's why I provided a link to the entire transcript. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #5
Where in the rest of the interview is it debunked? progressoid Jan 2020 #12
Did another poll come out with falling numbers for Bernie? Squinch Jan 2020 #4
No, quite the contrary. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #6
Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #7
Nice! Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #15
Well, something was nice. David__77 Jan 2020 #18
We need UBI. Seniors are working well past retirement age already. redqueen Jan 2020 #8
It makes sense to me. David__77 Jan 2020 #17
Hillary was proposing to lower the age to buy into Medicare to 55. ehrnst Jan 2020 #19
Not good melman Jan 2020 #9
Trying to take the heat off Bernie fallout87 Jan 2020 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #11
Yeah, this is why I'm not jumping up and down for Biden. SMC22307 Jan 2020 #13
Yep and there's no denying what they were sticking together about. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #14
I hope that candidates can take these things off the table, resolutely. David__77 Jan 2020 #16
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
1. Fake News -- Already debunked and a malicious mischaracterization.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 09:59 PM
Jan 2020
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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
2. Really? A direct quote is fake news?
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 10:00 PM
Jan 2020

The entire transcript is there to read for context...

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
3. Post the WHOLE interview - not cherry-picked snippets.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 10:01 PM
Jan 2020
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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
5. The whole interview is too long. That's why I provided a link to the entire transcript.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 10:02 PM
Jan 2020

Go ahead and read it if you want.

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progressoid

(49,999 posts)
12. Where in the rest of the interview is it debunked?
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 06:08 PM
Jan 2020
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Squinch

(51,016 posts)
4. Did another poll come out with falling numbers for Bernie?
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 10:01 PM
Jan 2020
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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
6. No, quite the contrary.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 10:02 PM
Jan 2020
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David__77

(23,516 posts)
18. Well, something was nice.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 02:43 AM
Jan 2020

...

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
8. We need UBI. Seniors are working well past retirement age already.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 05:10 PM
Jan 2020

We can't continue like this.

The Democratic party should be the party that finally breaks us all free of this Puritan work ethic bullshit.

To make this on topic, here's Andrew's position on the issue of special security:

"Social Security is one of the greatest social programs in America. However, especially with the Baby Boomers reaching retirement age, there are constant worries of it becoming insolvent. There are also many Americans who receive Social Security benefits but in no way need it to live out a safe, secure, and comfortable retirement. The program should institute means testing to ensure fiscal solvency while still serving the needs of the millions of Americans who do rely on it for their income after leaving the workforce. As President, I will work with Congress to alter Social Security into a means-tested program where Americans with more post-retirement income receive lower benefits on a sliding scale. This would save billions a year and help ensure Social Security’s solvency for future generations."

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David__77

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17. It makes sense to me.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:32 AM
Jan 2020

And I think increasingly makes sense over time. The alternative is extreme polarization and needless struggle for masses of people.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
19. Hillary was proposing to lower the age to buy into Medicare to 55.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 10:21 AM
Jan 2020

She was the Democratic candidate for POTUS in 2016.

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melman

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9. Not good
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 05:35 PM
Jan 2020

Not good at all.

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fallout87

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10. Trying to take the heat off Bernie
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 05:50 PM
Jan 2020

eh?

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SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
13. Yeah, this is why I'm not jumping up and down for Biden.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:23 AM
Jan 2020

Glad he and Bob Dole pledged to stick together.

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Hassin Bin Sober

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14. Yep and there's no denying what they were sticking together about.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:45 AM
Jan 2020

No matter how many times people cry “out of context”

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David__77

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16. I hope that candidates can take these things off the table, resolutely.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:30 AM
Jan 2020

No retirement or Medicare age increase, no change in CPI definition that would reduce benefits.

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