Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumThe problem of over-promising is that if a candidate runs on a campaign of sweeping changes,
and doesn't have coattails long enough to keep the House majority and create a strong Senate supermajority, then the candidate will be incapable of delivering on the promises, and will be blamed for not accomplishing the impossible.
Voters will then put that Democratic President into the category of "just another politician" who promises what can't be delivered, and they will have trouble getting re-elected.
If Bernie gets elected, how does he think he can accomplish anything, when he has gotten so few bills through Congress as it is?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)so that the electorate have the means to hold Congress, and the President accountable. She will not be signing bills that betray core principles, and if the Republicans block fair legislation on the floor, she will go on the offensive, in their districts, in their states, and in the midterms.
Warren is looking towards 2022.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)during his time in the House , he earned the sobriquet . " The Amendment King" ...He worked with John McCain to get a landmark Veterans Bill passed ..He is presently working with Republican Senator Mike Lee to stop a future Trump- instigated War with Iran...He worked with Ron Paul to get the first ever audit of the Federal Reserve .He worked with business interests while he was Mayor of Burlington , Vt..... ..The US News and World Report declared him one of the Best Mayors in America in 1987 ...Bernie is a far more savvy cat than you give him credit for He is just not a talker - but a doer as well ..
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
crazytown
(7,277 posts)(snip) It may seem strange that someone so steadfast in his principles has a reputation as a peacemaker between divided forces in Washington, but this is what makes Sanders truly remarkable. He represents President Kennedys ideal of compromises of issues, not of principles.
Sanders has used his unique position as the lone Independent Congressman to help Democrats and Republicans force hearings on the internal structure of the International Monetary Fund, which he sees as excessively powerful and unaccountable. He also succeeded in quietly persuading reluctant Republicans and President Clinton to ban the import of products made by under-age workers.
Sanders positions on many difficult issues are commendable, but his real impact has been as a reaction to the cynical climate which threatens the effectiveness of the democratic system. His energy, candor, conviction, and ability to bring people together stand against the current of opportunism, moral compromise, and partisanship which runs rampant on the American political scene. He and few others like him have the power to restore principle and leadership in Congress and to win back the faith of a voting public weary and wary of political opportunism.
https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/education/profile-in-courage-essay-contest/past-winning-essays/2000-winning-essay-by-peter-buttigieg
Reading through that essay, brings Jackson Browne's song to mind: Are you there, say a prayer for The Pretender, who started out so young and strong, only to surrender.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)can point to the Consumer Protection Agency, her own accomplishment.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)get referred to as a pastry chef, let alone a 'pastry king?'
When one skips all the real, intense and challenging work of crafting legislation, with all the compromise and teamwork involved, that doesn't promote their capacity to craft legislation or work well with teams that don't just one dictate what will be in that legislation.
Warren has much more respect, regard and real accomplishments for the 98% in her much shorter career.
Besides, there's a reason that narrow "Amendment King" window ends at 2007. That crown got passed pretty quickly - however, no one else who has exceeded Sanders' number during that time has felt that it was something to be touted as a major accomplishment in their legislative career...let alone feel a need to be referred to as a "king."
Roll call amendments aside, Sanders isnt shattering any legislative records, though hes not doing poorly either. Tauberers research places Sanders at No. 14 in Congress with 90 amendments. The other senator from Vermont, Democrat Patrick Leahy, on the other hand, has passed 226.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/24/bernie-sanders/bernie-sanders-was-roll-call-amendment-king-1995-2/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,778 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)The problem with under-promising is "the American dream" falling out of the reach of tens of millions more each decade.
The problem with under-promising is more and more "privatization", and weaker unions.
The problem with under-promising is adding fuel to the false myth that "both political parties are the same"
The problem with under-promising is the steady alienation of increasing segments of the working class from the Democratic Party who previously had remained loyal to Democrats for our bold economic programs.
The problem with under-promising is allowing the far right to frame the political narrative by dominating the world of new ideas and initiatives.
The problem with under-promising is Democrats negotiating with ourselves over what is pragmatically possible to achieve before we even sit down with Republicans to hammer out compromises.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)because they were a "threat to the establishment."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)He has no coattails. Sad to say, he will not help us regain a majority in the Senate, which we desperately need. Biden, on the other hand, has coattails down to his knees.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden