Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSanders' campaign: Warren only appeals to 'affluent'
Sanders campaign urging volunteers to tell Warren supporters she only appeals to 'affluent'A script being distributed by Sen. Bernie Sanderss (I-Vt.) presidential campaign to volunteers reportedly presents Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) as a 2020 candidate who appeals predominantly to better-educated, wealthier voters.
The script instructs volunteers to tell voters leaning toward the Massachusetts senator that I like Elizabeth Warren. [optional] In fact, shes my second choice. But heres my concern about her.
It goes on to instruct volunteers to say people who support her are highly-educated, more affluent people who are going to show up and vote Democratic no matter what and that [s]he's bringing no new bases into the Democratic Party, the news outlet reported.
Politico added that instructs volunteers to take aim at the electability in the other candidates within the top tier of the Democratic field as well, pointing out former South Bend, Ind. Mayor Pete Buttigiegs lack of support among African Americans and young people and saying that former Vice President Joe Biden doesnt really have any volunteers and fails to generate excitement even among supporters.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/477868-sanders-campaign-telling-volunteers-to-tell-warren-supporters-she-only
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)"Let's only forward male politicians because working class populations have no interest in equality."
It seems like a very toxic element to introduce into politics.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,069 posts)that happened to be formed by a woman candidate and she is the one smeared as the elitist by other camps.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,826 posts)Biden Warren, Buttigieg The established Democrats. He doesnt seem to like us very much.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,252 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,069 posts)They know she is not elitist and they know her platform is a solid boon to all working families and the most vulnerable of us. These strategists are being cruelly dishonest, but, are willing to trash a great woman in order to make personal political gains at her expense.
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/06/joe-biden-calls-warren-elitist-066637
Elitist': Biden steps up attacks on Warren
The former VP is looking to stoke resentment among working class voters by casting Warren as a snooty Harvard professor.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,069 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
But that was so October!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
blm
(113,069 posts)https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/16/us/politics/joe-biden-elizabeth-warren.html
Joe Biden Ramps Up Attacks on Elizabeth Warrens Credibility
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/10/us/politics/joe-biden-sexist-elizabeth-warren.html
The New York Times
Biden's Attacks on Warren Turn Personal, Drawing Some Complaints of Sexism
Nov 10, 2019 · By calling Warren's approach condescending, angry and elitist, Biden and his allies are making a risky case against a female candidate. He says the criticism has nothing to do with ...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,069 posts)It was open season on Warren after Sanders heart attack dampened attacks on him.
There are a few articles detailing Biden camps attacks on Warren as an elitist. You can find more than I posted.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,600 posts)in he wrong primary...IE he is not a Democrat...and you know this. That is not what Bernie is doing...he is using attempting to destroy her and she did nothing to him...I have never worked a campaign that used a script like Sanders is using. Disgraceful.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
whistler162
(11,155 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,069 posts)That Biden camp was attacking Warren as an elitist throughout October and November?
It was wrong of Sanders camp to do it. It was wrong of Bidens camp to do it. Wrong of Buttegieg.
It is a downright lie when Republicans say it every election against every Dem.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...he said on the particular topic he was discussing she had an elitist attitude.
But whatever -
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,069 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 12, 2020, 05:21 PM - Edit history (1)
attack on Warren, and make excuses for Bidens use of those attacks.
I want to defend Warren from that wrongheaded GOP myth line of attack that they roll out every election against every Dem, especially as she has the most pro-working family platform of any candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bummfuzzle
(154 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 12, 2020, 04:17 PM - Edit history (1)
has me shaking my head. They have spent the last months creating Warren as synonymous with Sanders. Warren had the middle age and educated Democratic base vote (HRC voters) and Biden people spent all this time making her the same as Sanders knowing the base has an issue with Sanders walking into the party trashing it. A vote for Warren was a vote for Sanders. Always tie her in as not part of the party, and a socialist. Always make it "Warren and Sanders". A fiscal conservative that turned into a socialist.
Sanders people held onto her because their guy wasn't doing well, and needed her to bolster them. Give them legitimacy.
This primary has made me look at the Biden supporters differently than I did with HRC or Obama supporters. They feel more like Bros. I watched them stoke the flame with Harris supporters, laying it all on Warren attacking her causing Harris issues. Biden and his supporters were the ones that spent a month going after her when her poll numbers were higher for daring to speak her mind about Biden segregation issues. How dare Booker and Harris have an opinion and speak out loud. And now they act like that didn't happen, and all along they were kind to Harris and it was wicked Warren that attacked Harris.
We have Sanders all out trashing our Democrats and I would like to see our top four take off their gloves, and unite in taking him down.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
blm
(113,069 posts)Biden, Bernie, Buttegieg......heck, this is a GOP lie that they have pushed on every Dem candidate of the last 6 decades.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bummfuzzle
(154 posts)any conversation of Biden the outrage at an attack. Yet, when he called Warren an elitist, crickets.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,326 posts)I don't like anybody using that GD word attacking Dems.
BS called the whole Dem Party "Elite" after the fascists took over the WH.
Bernie Sanders 'deeply humiliated' Democrats lost white working-class voters
Donald Trump "very effectively" tapped into "the anger and angst and pain that many working class people are feeling," the Vermont independent senator who challenged Clinton in the Democratic primary said on "CBS This Morning."
"I think that there needs to be a profound change in the way the Democratic Party does business," Sanders said. "It is not good enough to have a liberal elite. I come from the white working class, and I am deeply humiliated that the Democratic Party cannot talk to where I came from."
https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/14/politics/bernie-sanders-humiliated-democrats-loss-working-class-voters/index.html
The Dangerous Myth That Hillary Clinton Ignored the Working Class
https://www.democraticunderground.com/12512645001
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bummfuzzle
(154 posts)For decades I have been arguing that with Republicans. 2016 I continually argued HRC was more pro working family than any of the candidates including Sanders, in many ways. And today, I argue it with both Biden and Sanders attacking Warren as not being for the working class. That having the educated vote is somehow less.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,326 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I should have taken you at your word the first time you said it. I respect this. Our candidates may make an oops and we can call it, and still like and respect our candidates. You are right. Biden is a solid Democrat that has spent his life building the party, making it strong, and in full support.
Sanders has spent his lifetime despising Democrats.
Big difference.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,600 posts)anyone who disagreed with you was not a 'real' Democrat and he was right. He did not say what Sanders is saying now nor did he use this as Sanders is using this now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,326 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,600 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,326 posts)Jeeze how things get distorted.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(47,488 posts)Yes, until now you have been kinda in a lockstep. Many here still want both of you on the same ticket but did you really think that he is a team member? That he can play nice? Always marching to his own drums (and ambitions) and takes whatever steps necessary. Remember, he wanted someone to primary challenge Obama in 2012?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,326 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kcr
(15,317 posts)Warren is "bringing no new bases into the Democratic Party" but her voters will vote Democratic no matter what. But Bernie will somehow manage to broaden the base while promoting voting only for a small subset of Dems? He really doesn't expect deep thinking from the voters he courts.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,370 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)Alienate everyone.
Tired of this BS!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,069 posts)and dishonest.
Strategists in some camps believe this works, and for some it does.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kcr
(15,317 posts)And it's why he didn't win in 2016 and why he won't in 2020. And it's just enough to prevent a bold, strong progressive movement from actually gaining traction in our country. It's divisive and ineffective. People who truly want a transformative movement in our country should NOT back Bernie Sanders. He does have many good ideas. It's a shame he can't actually be more effective.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,326 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,370 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)for Sanders and this is most definitely not a campaign script given to any volunteer. None of my training includes anything remotely like this. We are told not to comment on other candidates and pivot back to Sanders if anyone brings up another candidate. All videos on Sanders training site also reiterate that no mention of other candidates is encouraged.
Hundreds of volunteers like myself have been tweeting that this is completely inaccurate and is not a Sanders campaign "script" but this story is still taking off - especially by those who want to believe it's true. It's sad to see it here on DU but I have come to be saddened often.
It is entirely possible someone put together some talking points on their own but this is most definitely not a instructions from the Sanders campaign to their staffers. This story is like the telephone game. No one has shown an actual verified script from the Sanders campaign to prove this is real. Only some typed words that "someone" attributes to the formal Sanders campaign.
I'm sure my instructions as a Sanders volunteer will mean nothing to those who choose to believe otherwise. But what a strange world we live in when this kind of anonymous so-called script takes on it's own life and is repeated by others to verify it's accuracy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,600 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)not the only volunteer saying this. So far no one except the anonymous typed script reporters are saying otherwise.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
blm
(113,069 posts)its a familiar hurt. Been fighting against this GOP style tactic since October.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)anything terrible. Its just that we have received no instructions and no training to support the story. Dont feel badly. People are constantly saying Sanders has no minority support. My shoulders shrug. They are trying to create conflict between the Sanders and Warren supporters now. Its all bs. Together we succeed.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(94,609 posts)"Middle Class"?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dana_b
(11,546 posts)of one person in a private group. Politico needs to do much better
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,600 posts)and still be able to deny you did it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,069 posts)Curious about the Biden supporters now focusing on the wrongness of the attack even if proven to be a false story. They excused it throughout October and November when the elitist tactic was being used by their campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden