Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forum'CNN Is Truly a Terrible Influence on This Country': Democratic Debate Moderators
Pilloried for Centrist Talking Points and Anti-Sanders Bias
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As Common Dreams reported, the financial burden of deploying American forces was notably absent during first part of the debatea lengthy discussion on foreign policy and warbut the moderators did ask candidates about the costs of implementing Medicare for All healthcare, as Sanders has proposed. That contrast, and the presentation of the healthcare questions, sparked swift condemnation from progressives.
Overall, a team of Rolling Stone writers called the debate moderators' questions "mystifyingly inane." In a piece titled "CNN Completely Botched the Democratic Presidential Debate," HuffPost's Zach Carter called them "awful." According to him, the debate on the whole was "tedious, interminable, frivolous... a fiasco of irrelevance held three weeks before the Iowa caucuses."
"Again and again, CNN anchors substituted centrist talking points for questions―and then followed up predictable responses with further centrist talking points, rarely illuminating any substantive disagreements between the candidates or problems with their policy positions," he wrote.
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The debate came just a day after CNN published what critics called a hit piece involving a private conversation between Sanders and Warren in 2018. Citing four unnamed sourcesnone of whom were in the room for the conversationCNN reported that Sanders told Warren "he did not believe a woman could win" the presidential race. While Warren issued a statement after the story ran endorsing the findings of the report, Sanders has repeatedly denied it, including during the debate.
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https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/15/cnn-truly-terrible-influence-country-democratic-debate-moderators-pilloried-centrist
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
getagrip_already
(14,838 posts)the story is that cnn was out to get him? By using centrist talking points?
What the heck is a centrist talking point and why would it be offensive?
Sorry, this is pathetic. Admit he didn't do well and commit to doing better.
And no, he didn't do so-so because they asked him questions he didn't agree with. He had the chance to point that out and didn't. He simply didn't have a grasp of foreign policy or the economy.
Warren seemed to handle the questions ok. She isn't exactly centrist. She is just talented.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)They also didn't care about using the word "alleged."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
getagrip_already
(14,838 posts)It's not up to the moderators to care. It's up to the candidates to get their message across.
Liz did. Bernie not so much.
She seemed believable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)is that too much to ask from any moderator or network holding a Presidential debate which in turn is viewed by the American People on deliberating for the most powerful office in the land?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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getagrip_already
(14,838 posts)Getting upset because a question you wanted to answer wasnt worded correctly seems rmo to me.
I used to joke i would have gotten straight a's if they would have only asked me the right questions on the exams.
Alas, i had to answer the stupid questions they asked.....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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getagrip_already
(14,838 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
W_HAMILTON
(7,873 posts)Did you even watch the debate?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)I watched all of it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
W_HAMILTON
(7,873 posts)I want to know where the candidates stand on foreign policy issues -- not for them to regurgitate facts that I can look up online myself.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)Boy we better just be prepared for a repeat of something
I only saw parts, I am assuming he was given much less time to talk than the rest, because that is the only stat that matters in a debate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,443 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)I always hate the CNN debates, because they are always asking one candidate a question that is trying to stir them up against another candidate:
"Senator Warren, exactly how long has Senator Sanders been a misogynist?"
"Senator Sanders, how long have you thought that Senator Warren should be home baking cookies instead of serving in the Senate?"
Good golly, their questions were terrible.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Please talk to dem-leaning independents, or people you assume are dems, and find out what they think about the debate and our leading candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)there is no there there,
then it's a free fall, that's how Trump came to power in the first place.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Aaron Pereira
(383 posts)Insincere charges of sexism are going to have a corrosive effect on party unity in November. Party politics are one thing but this is a bridge too far.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)For all the professional wrestling vitriol they use against Trump, it's just largely for show so long as a true President for the people doesn't come to power.
I'm convinced the vast majority of the corporate media conglomerates would prefer having Trump in the White House versus Bernie.
Corporate supremacy is alive and well.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
coti
(4,612 posts)either way, to anyone- was inane.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)as if Trump doesn't do it enough.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
coti
(4,612 posts)value and certainly no relevance to the future of our country. I was wishing a candidate had called out the question as ridiculous and pivoted to something that mattered.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JudyM
(29,279 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Every stupid question they asked was met with a look making it clear how ridiculous he thought the question was, and he did his best to try to use the opportunity to redirect to something of substance.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JudyM
(29,279 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Thekaspervote
(32,796 posts)It will be great when sanders goes home to VT
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)All part of framing the narrative to exclude the change we need to solve the problems.
This was no accident.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)they're making megabucks under the current dysfunctional system, so what if 30,000 Americans die every year because of lack of health insurance and hundreds of thousands declare medical related bankruptcy every year.
CNN can still sell big pharma commercials.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Illegal in nearly every country.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)that to be illegal.
I wonder what their reasoning is?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)There is no reason to air these commercials, other than to drive demand for high priced drugs.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)some serious mega-bucks...so there's that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Time2Breathe70
(15 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)welcome to D.U.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Odoreida
(1,549 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
maximusveritas
(2,915 posts)Any tough question is seized on as evidence of bias, while ignoring all the other questions that put other candidates on the spot.
Bernie got to speak the most at the last debate and was a close 2nd to Warren this time.
How can you complain so much when you are given ample chance to answer every question? If he failed to do so, that was his fault
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)that's the kind of questions financially conflict of interest laden corporate media conglomerate CNN asked of Bernie.
The primary issue is not answers but the one sided questions asked.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided