Bernie falsely claims he and Elizabeth were talking about the WEATHER

[pnwmom]

during that non-handshake moment last night.

Unfortunately for Bernie, and his credibility, CNN has released audio of that moment -- and they weren't arguing about the weather.

https://www.businessinsider.com/sanders-said-talked-about-weather-with-warren-viral-debate-moment-2020-1

On Wednesday, NBC News reporter Gary Grumbach asked Sanders what he was discussing with the Massachusetts senator after the debate. "About the weather," Sanders said in response.

Tuesday night's viral exchange came amid a growing rift between the two progressive candidates, which was exacerbated this week when a report came out alleging Sanders told Warren in a 2018 meeting that he did not believe a woman could win the presidential election.

Sanders has vehemently denied the accusation, but Warren has commented publicly on it and contradicted him. "I thought a woman could win, he disagreed," Warren said in a statement.

Link to tweet

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[getagrip_already]

1. wow.....

I couldn't load the link, does it directly quote bernie?

wow.

[pnwmom]

7. Here's my rough transcript. It was harder to hear Liz's mostly one word replies.

Warren: “I think you called me a liar on national tv.”
Bernie: “What?”
Warren: “I think you called me a liar on national tv.”
Bernie: Let’s not do it right now. You want to have that discussion, we’ll have that discussion. Let’s not have it right now.”

[getagrip_already]

14. I meant telling the reporter they talked about the wx.....

That is a pretty direct lie. If he would lie like that, he can't be trusted in any way.

[pnwmom]

17. No, I've just taken the NBC reporter's word on that. n/t

[George II]

23. Here is the exact transcript from CNN:

"I think you called me a liar on national TV," Warren can be heard saying.
"What?" Sanders responded.
"I think you called me a liar on national TV," she repeated.
"You know, let's not do it right now. If you want to have that discussion, we'll have that discussion," Sanders said, to which Warren replied, "Anytime."
"You called me a liar," Sanders continued. "You told me -- all right, let's not do it now."

He saw he was wrong and she was willing to push it, so he threw in "you called me a liar", then the dismissive "let's not do it now" and then he turned and walked away.

[pnwmom]

24. Thanks! n/t

[Tiggeroshii]

2. Almost like it is none of our business and he wants to let this go.

This is good for trump. A huge distraction from the felonies that are breaking with parnas, barr et al

[pnwmom]

4. That would have been a better reply. It also would have been better

in the debate if he had said he and Warren remember it differently.

[Tiggeroshii]

5. Agreed

But not having a good reply doesnt mean that they cant figure this crap out like grown adults and put this behind us.

[Tiggeroshii]

6. Also if you remember, he did say this is helping trump.

Or something to that extent

[Time2Breathe70]

9. Right, because...

we can't look at two things at the same time.

[Thekaspervote]

3. Well.. there you have it! I really wish EW would have unhitched her wagon from Bernie long ago!

It’s naive on her part not to not have seen this coming.

Sanders does this... no one is immune

[LeftTurn3623]

12. There you have what?

What does any of this prove? He said right back to her that she called him a liar?

This doesn’t prove anything other than he denied saying it and she didn’t argue he did say it during the debate

[Blue_true]

36. I agree. One thing that disappointed me was her rigid attachment to

a couple of Bernie's promises. The Bernie followers are not going to come over to her and her adherence to Bernie's side turned off left-center and center democrats. Not Bernie has turned on her because he realizes that he needs to somehow strip her of her support to be able to contest Biden.

[RandySF]

8. .

[Cha]

11. uh huh!

[Cha]

10. Whoa.. Busted! So who's telling the Truth.. BS or

Elizabeth?

[LeftTurn3623]

13. Bernie

[Cha]

15. NO

[getagrip_already]

16. So he clearly lied to the reporter...

Why should we trust his side of any story? This really tells me liz was telling the truth.

[LeftTurn3623]

20. He obviously was being tongue & cheek with the reporter

[pnwmom]

25. Yeah, right. For that he would have to have a sense of humor.

And I've seen very little evidence of that.

[Demsrule86]

27. Right...I haven't either.

[Cha]

21. Exactly and I believed her before.

[TwilightZone]

30. Nah.

His campaign has a history of making false statements, though they usually come through surrogates like Sirota. There's little reason to believe his word over Warren's.

[Cha]

42. Exactly.

[comradebillyboy]

39. I'll go with Warren as the more honest of the two...

[maximusveritas]

18. Not a Bernie fan at all, but don't you think he might have been sarcastic?

Without context or video, it's hard to say he was giving a serious answer here.
Sounds like something you say sarcastically when you don't want to answer the question

[LeftTurn3623]

22. Exactly

[blm]

28. I think he was being sarcastic.

But then, I know people. And, especially, how people talk.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. Bernie Bashing Rule #1: Never miss an opportunity to bash Bernie...

Bernie Bashing Rule #2: Always assume the worst about Bernie, while never giving him the benefit of the doubt on ANYTHING.

Bernie Bashing Rule #3: Rinse and repeat Bernie Bashing Rules #1 & #2.

All these Bernie Bashing Rules only result in more and more divisiveness, which only helps tRumpty Dumbty, yet it continues unabated... indeed it continues at an accelerated pace as Bernie continues to surge in the polls.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[brooklynite]

31. How's that combo ticket working out for you?

[comradebillyboy]

40. I'm pretty sure the ticket won't be Sanders/Warren.

I don't think this rift is going to be fixed any time soon.

[Midwestern Democrat]

33. Agreed - if I were him, I probably would have given the same joke response - a glib way of saying

"no comment". I certainly wouldn't have told the entire world about an unpleasant private conversation with a competing candidate - I would have assumed that she wanted the conversation to remain private.

[vsrazdem]

26. Yes, it's so great they they want to air their dirty laundry in public. Really good job.

[fallout87]

32. He was being sarcastic.

Bernie is smart enough to know there is audio of everything on that stage. Who would really believe he was being serious when he said "weather"?

[pnwmom]

34. "No comment" would have been an appropriate response. Better than sarcasm,

if that's what this was.

[fallout87]

35. true.. in hindsight

it was off the cuff

[booley]

37. Sanders don't mud sling How horrible of him.

Maybe Sanders meant what he said that he wanted to discuss this later.
With warren.

Not exacerbate the tension by encouraging a media that wants blood.

Weird.
Seriously, if we are going to do this Rovian thing of attackign Sanders on his honesty, might need better ammunition than this.

[comradebillyboy]

41. "Sanders don't mud sling", surely you jest....

[Maru Kitteh]

38. So - JUST AS EASY AS BREATHING, in other words.

Yeah. Wish I could say I was surprised.

[betsuni]

43. Like the attempted joke "And I'm white too!" this didn't work.

He should think about how everybody loved him when he said enough about the damn emails. Everybody! Because it was true and not negative or an attack on a Democrat. But that ship sailed a long time ago. What a shame.