Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWhat The Sanders vs. Warren Battle Is Really About
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Sanders is not wrong in pointing out that Warrens populism and make no mistake, it is that; she does her fair share of billionaire-bashing has resonated with a different audience than his. In part, its because her packaging of populism is meant to extend an ideological hand to the establishment Democratic voters who cottoned to Clinton in 2016 but regretted, perhaps, their inability to see that the country was ravenous for system-busting talk. She scratches the itch of big ole change but understands that the Democratic Party is filled with people who are still comfortable within the system, even if they have intellectual critiques of it.
Sanderss selling of populism is conscious of its place in the sweep of progressive history. In Iowa, he talked about how not so long ago, public education was seen as a radical idea and cited the aphorism, It always seems impossible until its done, to explain the mental block the country could overcome to accept Medicare for All.
On Saturday evening, Sanders held a rally in Davenport that opened with performances by a collegiate singer-songwriter This one is about my babysitter and how as you get older your relationships change and Rep. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan. Tlaibs voice rose in emotional peaks and cracks as she spoke of her childhood in Detroit, which in her memory is perfumed with the rotten-egg smell of hydrogen sulfide. She bemoaned the building of bougie condos in her city. We need somebody thats courageous, that wont sell us out, she said. Im exhausted about the broken promises, these polished speeches I dont care if you said the same thing. With Sanders, she said, you see this person and hes real. It was as succinct an endorsement as a 2020 Democratic candidate could ask for; though, as we all well know by now, whats real is ambiguous and mutable and very much according to ones taste.
But of course, the crowd cheered; there was no higher praise.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-the-sanders-vs-warren-battle-is-really-about/
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapfog_1
(29,205 posts)and they tend to have outsized egos.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)A very (very) ugly legacy indeed.
The antithesis of liberalism as a political philosophy in my estimation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,778 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Populism isn't an end, it's a means. And while lots of authoritarians have used populism to appeal to the lower and middle classes, that does not imply that populism is and of itself an authoritarian system.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)Has that ever happened?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Populism is an electoral strategy employed in varying degrees by lots of different people. Both parties use populist messaging all the damn time.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
58Sunliner
(4,386 posts)It's about his campaign surrogates using misleading memes and tropes to malign others and then claim ignorance as well as not taking responsibility for his campaign. It's classic passive-aggressive. It stinks.His behavior towards Steyer's overture after the debate was another classic passive-aggressive move.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BuffaloJackalope
(818 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oasis
(49,389 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,537 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,246 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
apcalc
(4,465 posts)Russian Trolls are here continually stirring this up. They want a rift, they want anger.
I encourage everyone to DROP IT.
Lets get rid of Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,365 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
blm
(113,065 posts)and blatantly so.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,365 posts)it was "heavily skewed and blatantly so," blm?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapfog_1
(29,205 posts)go Amy!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scotch-Irish
(464 posts)They are really stirring this Bernie/Warren problem.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ancianita
(36,075 posts)"The things that are happening every day off that debate stage (with all the mass shootings, the attacks on reproductive rights, etc.) these are way more terrifying than anything that happened during that debate.
If we make enemies of each other now, the fight wont be about if a woman can ever be president it will be if ANYONE else will ever be president again."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)Folks, if you are not 100% sure how to use a semicolon, then please consider not using it at all. I, myself, avoid the semicolon like the plague. Most people could go their whole life without using one. There are only two real uses for a semicolon: 1) use it for a complicated list of items, and 2) use it to join two closely related independent clauses together. You could easily go your whole life and never have to use one. When in doubt, leave the semicolon out.
Also, when writing a parenthetical expression, such as when she writes "and make no mistake, it is that" in the middle of a sentence, one should put the same type of punctuation mark on both sides of the expression.
Even with better punctuation, her sentence is still pretty bad. It would be better as the following...
Sanders is not wrong in pointing out that Warrens populism and make no mistake, it is that she does her fair share of billionaire-bashing has resonated with a different audience than his.
or this...
Sanders is not wrong in pointing out that Warrens populism (and make no mistake, it is that she does her fair share of billionaire-bashing) has resonated with a different audience than his.
or this...
Sanders is not wrong in pointing out that Warrens populism, and make no mistake, it is that, she does her fair share of billionaire-bashing, has resonated with a different audience than his.
This has been an episode of "Cleaning Up Atrocious Grammar" by TheGrammarNazi.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bummfuzzle
(154 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,365 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Not to mention the high regard of her peers, and her ability to work with people to get things accomplished:
And for Warren, that was never the point. She didn't run for office to sign onto a slew of legislation naming post offices and making insignificant changes to U.S. policy. Her goal wasn't exactly to pass dozens of big bills either; she's too much of a realist for that, allies say.
Warren's real power lies in her outsized influence, not just for a freshman senator, but for virtually any elected official in Washington. Her pen may not have touched many pieces of legislation that made their way to Obama's desk since her election in 2012, but her fingerprints are all over them.
Warren would be a strong spokeswoman for the party in Congress or outside of it; she spurred creation of a federal agencythe Consumer Financial Protection Bureau without the title of "senator" in front of her name. But allies say Warren's best tool is her seat at the committee table in the Senate. Through hearings on the Senate Banking Committee in particular, Warren's questioning and persistence has lead to rules changes at various federal agencies without needing to get legislation through a Republican-controlled Congress. Most notably, Warren successfully pushed the SEC to require banks to admit wrongdoing in negotiating many settlements.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/05/is-elizabeth-warren-an-effective-senator/449349/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happy Hoosier
(7,314 posts)... how much of Sanders' support is feel like a cult of personality to me.
So much of it seems to be about personal devotion to Sanders, and that won;t end well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts).........................................
Unsurprisingly, given her strong debate performance, Warren was also the biggest winner in terms of attracting potential voters. She gained a little over 3 points in the share of respondents who said they were considering voting for her. Buttigieg and Klobuchar also gained roughly 2 points each in potential support. Gains were pretty small for the other candidates, though less than a point each for Biden and Sanders, and a little over 1 point for Steyer.
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We also asked likely Democratic primary voters how favorably they felt about each candidate both before and after the debate. And perhaps unsurprisingly, it was the less-well-known candidates who gained the most: Klobuchar and Steyer saw the largest jumps in net favorability (favorable rating minus unfavorable rating) 5.8 points and 5 points, respectively. Buttigieg and Warren also did well on this metric, however, with Buttigieg picking up 4.7 points and Warren 3.9 points. Sanders and Bidens net favorability, on the other hand, actually fell a bit Bidens dropped by 1.6 points, and Sanders took the biggest hit in this metric, falling by 3.6 points.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)"Beware the Ides of March. I came to bury Caesar, not to praise him (her)."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)Cuz that was a very select set of quotes. The actual article praised warren on several points, and bashed bernie on others. Yet, the quotes above only seem to praise bernie.
It was actually a pretty balanced piece.
Definitely NOT the tome of the quotes posted above..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,365 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)rather than implying that it's taking a side.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)in the name of promoting the Independen Jr. Senator from Vermont.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden