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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
If I were to vote in a presidential
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Interesting to look back in time (Original Post)
Quixote1818
Jan 2020
OP
This will be an interesting thread to watch considering Hillary's comments today.
Autumn
Jan 2020
#2
She said a lot more than the comment on Bernie's fellow members of Congress. I pay attention.
Autumn
Jan 2020
#7
Yeah, she said nobody likes him and wants to work with him (in Congress, not DU polls)
Hav
Jan 2020
#9
Thanks for an interesting reminder for me of how different things are today from 2015.
herding cats
Jan 2020
#11
PatSeg
(47,443 posts)1. Bizarre
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,085 posts)2. This will be an interesting thread to watch considering Hillary's comments today.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hav
(5,969 posts)4. I wasn't aware all these poll participants
were members of the House or the Senate. That's fascinating.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,085 posts)5. Did anyone but you say they were members of the House or the Senate?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hav
(5,969 posts)6. You were the one mentioning Hillary's comments
that were about Bernie's fellow members of Congress and somehow thought this poll had any kind of relevance to her comments.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,085 posts)7. She said a lot more than the comment on Bernie's fellow members of Congress. I pay attention.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hav
(5,969 posts)9. Yeah, she said nobody likes him and wants to work with him (in Congress, not DU polls)
That's why he's a career politician getting nothing done. The truth hurts.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,085 posts)10. She's wrong. Have a nice day, I'm done with this conversation.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)12. That's not true!
Bernie gets a lot done. Post offices dont name themselves!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,085 posts)14. You wish that was all he did..
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-attack-hollywood-reporter-fact-check.html#comments
The notion that Sanders got nothing done over his long tenure in Washington is also untrue. During his 16 years in the House, Sanders passed more amendments than any other member of Congress, shoehorning small progressive wins into must-pass legislation. In 2016, the Observers Michael Sainato compiled this summary of Sanderss minor victories:
He kicked off his political career with an amendment to start a National Program of Cancer registries, which is now maintained by all 50 states. In 2001, he successfully passed an amendment to the general appropriations bill which banned the importation of goods made with child labor, and passed an amendment to increase funding by $100 million for community health centers When Mr. Sanders was elected to the Senate in 2006, he continued pushing amendments through legislation, including securing $10 million in additional funds for the Army National Guard, providing financial assistance for childcare to people in the armed forces, exposing corruption in the military industrial complex, support in treating autism in the militarys healthcare system and ensuring bailout funds werent used to displace American workers.
During negotiations over the Affordable Care Act, meanwhile, the senator found a way to make Barack Obamas health-care bill more progressive and more appealing to conservative Senate Democrats at the same time. As the fact-checker Politifact writes:
As negotiations were in their final stage, Sanders successfully pushed for the inclusion of $11 billion in funding for community health centers, especially in rural areas. The insertion of this funding helped bring together both Democratic lawmakers on the left and Democrats representing more conservative, rural areas.
On occasion, Sanders has managed to assemble bipartisan congressional support for his goals, partnering with John McCain to pass a reform of the Veterans Affairs administration in 2014, and with Utah Republican Mike Lee to pass a resolution calling for the end of U.S. involvement in Yemens civil war just last year. One can reasonably argue that Sanderss ideological isolation and aversion to backslapping limited his legislative productivity as a Congress member, and thus that a more moderate, jovial Democrat would be more likely to get things done as president. On the other hand, many of the bipartisan things that Congress got done over the past three decades were not worth doing. Regardless, Clintons characterization of Sanderss record is patently false.
He kicked off his political career with an amendment to start a National Program of Cancer registries, which is now maintained by all 50 states. In 2001, he successfully passed an amendment to the general appropriations bill which banned the importation of goods made with child labor, and passed an amendment to increase funding by $100 million for community health centers When Mr. Sanders was elected to the Senate in 2006, he continued pushing amendments through legislation, including securing $10 million in additional funds for the Army National Guard, providing financial assistance for childcare to people in the armed forces, exposing corruption in the military industrial complex, support in treating autism in the militarys healthcare system and ensuring bailout funds werent used to displace American workers.
During negotiations over the Affordable Care Act, meanwhile, the senator found a way to make Barack Obamas health-care bill more progressive and more appealing to conservative Senate Democrats at the same time. As the fact-checker Politifact writes:
As negotiations were in their final stage, Sanders successfully pushed for the inclusion of $11 billion in funding for community health centers, especially in rural areas. The insertion of this funding helped bring together both Democratic lawmakers on the left and Democrats representing more conservative, rural areas.
On occasion, Sanders has managed to assemble bipartisan congressional support for his goals, partnering with John McCain to pass a reform of the Veterans Affairs administration in 2014, and with Utah Republican Mike Lee to pass a resolution calling for the end of U.S. involvement in Yemens civil war just last year. One can reasonably argue that Sanderss ideological isolation and aversion to backslapping limited his legislative productivity as a Congress member, and thus that a more moderate, jovial Democrat would be more likely to get things done as president. On the other hand, many of the bipartisan things that Congress got done over the past three decades were not worth doing. Regardless, Clintons characterization of Sanderss record is patently false.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hav
(5,969 posts)3. What's also interesting is how many of those are gone
Whether by ban, not agreeing to the TOS or just leaving after the Dem voters in the real world chose wisely.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skid Rogue
(711 posts)8. Looks like...
Putin's dropping the ball a bit.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
herding cats
(19,564 posts)11. Thanks for an interesting reminder for me of how different things are today from 2015.
Before 2016 I supported him running for President.
Today, I won't be voting for him in the primary.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)13. Wow, dark days.
This is a great reminder things can always be worse.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ismnotwasm
(41,982 posts)15. Wow so many ppr'd or booted.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden