Biden accuser Flores: 'I want him to acknowledge this was wrong'

[DonViejo]

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https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/436622-biden-accuser-flores-i-want-him-to-acknowledge-this-was-wrong

[kennetha]

1. Go away, lady. Just go away.

[jrthin]

35. You are saying it in a much nicer way than I want to say it. nt

[Bayard]

2. He kissed the back of her head.....

As opposed to grabbing her by the pussy. Hmmmm.....

[kennetha]

3. He touched her shoulder and sniffed her hair, which must have been right up against his nose.

what a monster!

[CentralMass]

9. This seems to be a thing of his. I can't imagine someone doing this

In the work place or in other social situations. So I think that it is an odd personality quirk. However, I don't think that he is bad guy.

[Blue_true]

23. I honestly would not do that to a person.

I may whisper in a person's ear, but it is always about business and intended to not disrupt the larger meeting, and even then, I don't make stuff like that a habit.

[CentralMass]

50. +1

[trueblue2007]

59. Of course VP Biden is not a bad guy. don't go there

[CentralMass]

60. Nice try. Where i went was to say that I didn't think he was a bad guy.

[trueblue2007]

65. ha ha ha .... she said BIDEN SNIFFED HER HAIR . . . that musta been a REALLT Big Sniff !!!! ha ha

Oh gees, this story is i think over the top.

[UniteFightBack]

10. So be it then...send in the hair sniffer to take down the serial pussy grabber! nt

[CentralMass]

15. :-)

[George II]

17. Today it was "the top of my head". By the end of the week it'll be on her lips.

Meanwhile she has no comments about the "culture of sexual abuse and harassment" in the campaign for which she worked in 2016.

[dalton99a]

4. Sue him for $250M

[R B Garr]

5. No one saw it, not even her friend, and Biden doesn't

remember it. You can see from her statement she is casting a net, this isn’t about what she says happened to her.

[George II]

7. She went on about how "he's been documented doing things like that". No shit, that's one reason....

...why he's earned the nickname "Uncle Joe".

[Eliot Rosewater]

26. Is she a republican? If yes, she is FLAT OUT lying, if she is a Democrat, who does she support?

If she is a democrat does she have a track record of supporting uh, someone NOT Joe or NOT mainstream Democratic?

Is this NOT really a democrat? Hey Lucy, if we come down to the choice of a head kisser or a human race destroyer, which way you gonna go?

I stand by my comment that if she is a republican she is a liar. she is not, fine. all republicans lie

[Jarqui]

36. She supports Bernie

[Eliot Rosewater]

63. OF COURSE

hug your loved ones, cuz it is gonna get real real ugly real real soon and all of us are going to suffer

[sheshe2]

49. Saw this

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Lucy+Flores+Bill+Clinton+Campaigns+Nevada+0mbuqkUsuyGl.jpg

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Lucy+Flores+Bill+Clinton+Campaigns+Nevada+PbP5dOFDoxDl.jpg

http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Lucy+Flores/Bill+Clinton+Campaigns+Nevada+Democrats/PbP5dOFDoxD

Just saying.

[George II]

6. She didn't mind THIS, nor did she mind what was a "culture" in the campaign in which...

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...she participated in 2016, two years AFTER the "incident" (BTW, this photograph was minutes after he "kissed the back of her head" or "top of her head", that story has now changed):

[highplainsdem]

11. She looks very happy in every single photo of her taken with Biden at that event, just

after the alleged incident.

http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Lucy+Flores/Joe+Biden+Eva+Longoria+Campaign+Nevada+Democrats/DixAVIviUUX

[George II]

12. From your link, there's also this:

"Democratic congressional candidate Lucy Flores speaks at a campaign rally for Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) at Bonanza High School on February 14, 2016 in Las Vegas, Nevada."

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Lucy+Flores+Democratic+Presidential+Candidate+l0PVd2XAhsdl.jpg

[Jarqui]

38. I didn't see any distress either in those pics nt

[sheshe2]

28. This

[pangaia]

41. THAT may be the most useful post about this matter....

[sheshe2]

51. Yes.

[UniteFightBack]

8. Now it was a slow kiss....was it a slow kiss on Friday? Her interview was not credible. nt

[highplainsdem]

13. Flores called it a "big slow kiss" in her initial essay/smear:

https://www.thecut.com/2019/03/an-awkward-kiss-changed-how-i-saw-joe-biden.html


But somehow all the other people backstage around Biden and Flores didn't see it. They must all have been looking away to give Biden privacy, doncha think?




Btw, in that same essay, as I've noted here (I'm chagrined I didn't notice this right away when I read Flores's attack and tried to make sense of it), Flores brought up the debunked GOP smear about Biden and Stephanie Carter, and lied directly in saying that Biden was nuzzling her neck when instead he was whispering in her ear.

[George II]

16. On Friday he kissed the back of her head and now it's the top of her head. Too many holes...

...in the various stories.

Lucy, it's about time to just own up to the fake incident and move on. Not many believe you anymore.

[highplainsdem]

18. Well, if he's kissing the back of her head, that's closer to her neck and makes it seem more

intimate/sexual/creepy. While just kissing the top of the head is a very common platonic gesture of reassurance and support, and that would have made it seem more likely that his hands on her shoulders were also just meant as reassurance.

But apparently too many people pointed out to Flores that with their height difference he'd've had to make some effort to kiss the back of her head instead of the top.

I keep thinking of how happy she looked onstage after that alleged incident took place, too. She was apparently thrilled to have him there.

[George II]

19. I mentioned that height thing yesterday, he would have had to stoop down to do that....

...and then today the story changed. Like you say, people probably pointed it out to her. My guess is David Sirota is earning his money already.

[Blue_true]

24. I thought of Sirota when this broke a few days back.

Seems like people in that particular campaign like doing stuff undercover, what better way than to cast aspersions on Biden with something that neither he it other people who would have witnessed it remember.

I know that if I saw a person of note coming on to someone else, I would certainly remember that.

[George II]

31. I'd be curious to see what he's tweeting about this, but the morning he was hired last week....

....he deleted his more than 20,000 tweets and blocked a whole shitload of people.

[George II]

20. Here's the paragraph from the article:

I felt him get closer to me from behind. He leaned further in and inhaled my hair. I was mortified. I thought to myself, “I didn’t wash my hair today and the vice-president of the United States is smelling it. And also, what in the actual fuck? Why is the vice-president of the United States smelling my hair?” He proceeded to plant a big slow kiss on the back of my head. My brain couldn’t process what was happening. I was embarrassed. I was shocked. I was confused. There is a Spanish saying, “tragame tierra,” it means, “earth, swallow me whole.” I couldn’t move and I couldn’t say anything. I wanted nothing more than to get Biden away from me. My name was called and I was never happier to get on stage in front of an audience.

And here they are minutes after she "wanted nothing more than to get Biden away from me"....

[George II]

32. I don't know that anyone can read "body language" from a single still photo, but here she is...

...at a Sanders rally two years later - pretty much the same smile.

?itok=j7ltfmXx

[OilemFirchen]

44. "But keep psychoanalyzing from a single photo."

Wait... wut?

[OilemFirchen]

34. ...

[OilemFirchen]

43. It's called seeing what you want to see.

I didn't even need to research that.

[sheshe2]

45. It is a still shot.

smiles are frozen in time.

[Cha]

22. I don't believe her.

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[UniteFightBack]

47. That needs to be posted around. What a great Democrat she is huh? They rather rump win if they

can't.

[Cha]

61. I have been trying to do that.. she's smearing Hillary

in 2017.. after GE.

Link to tweet

[Amimnoch]

64. Wouldn't be the first time imo. -nt.

[IluvPitties]

14. You just want to do a hit job on Biden.

You are a member of Bernie's campaign, for God's sake!

[LongtimeAZDem]

21. +1

[Blue_true]

25. Sort of like Sirota's hits on Beto.

I wonder how long she has been on the payroll.

[aka-chmeee]

27. If she didn't say anything at the moment,

She shouldn't say anything now.

[dsc]

53. Is that true of Ford as well? or how about the myriad of people who accused Moore?

[Demsrule86]

54. Biden is not accused of attempted rape...invading personal

Space is a bullshit accusation.

[Opbrg]

30. Who stands to gain the most with

Biden out of the mix? She works for Bernie's campaign and he is trailing Biden in the polls. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

[nocoincidences]

33. I just can't imagine that there was never a situation where someone said to him,

'Mr. Vice President, you probably should stop doing that.’'

Perhaps you should have said something, right there, at the time?

Why is this someone else's job?

I mean, really.....

[Kahuna7]

37. You first. You don't appear to be so traumatized that you

appear to be doing to Joe what you have accused him of.

[Desert grandma]

58. What hypocracy!

Joe Biden might be the best candidate to beat Trump. Lucy is stirring the pot. Go away Lucy. If any of the other candidates pile on to your "invasion of my space" BS, they will lose my financial support and my vote. That includes you, Elizabeth Warren. We need to be united in the effort to remove the Orange Buffoon from the White House.

[Kahuna7]

62. Old Lucy is right up on Joe. She's not respecting his space...

[Kaleva]

39. Warren believes Flores

" "So I don't know anything about this," Warren said. "But obviously if there's a problem, then Joe Biden needs to answer."

Warren made the comments Friday night to a group of reporters at a campaign event in West Des Moines, Iowa, according to local news reports. The campaign event was her third of the day.

The following day at a campaign event in Iowa, Warren addressed the accusations further.

"I read the op-ed last night," she said. "I believe Lucy Flores and Joe Biden needs to give an answer.""

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-allegations-elizabeth-warren-needs-to-answer-for-new-kissing-2019-3

[Demsrule86]

55. Warren won't get another dime from me.

[EveHammond13]

52. I'm sick of her.

[delisen]

56. This is a revolution??????? . Flores you have made your personal statement

Joseph Biden has made his.

I am moving on.

[Thekaspervote]

57. Yes.. we know you do..and when he apologizes for something he didn't do the gopeee jumps

Go away

[Gothmog]

66. From the sponsor of the event

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