What If, Future Candidates Refuse To Participate In Iowa Caucuses?

[Me.]

ala Bloomberg

[PatSeg]

1. You know

that is entirely possible. There was a lot of time and expense involved in the campaigns there. Why would anyone want to bother again?

[Me.]

3. In Addition, The Results Will Always Be Suspect

and no one is going to be happy with the results.

[ancianita]

7. What if we stop biasing ourselves with the "the perfect as the enemy of the good" and just

trust our fellow Americans to do the right thing, not perfectly, but in good faith agency.

What if we helped empower the agency of all of us to lead our leaders, and not to let them lead us.

This isn't just about a party, it's about casting doubt on Americans to run their elections fairly and honestly for themselves.

We need to lay off the what ifs, and do the best we can, not diminish our "more perfect union" support.

Real mistakes are to be learned from. That's agency.

We can't learn to act with sitting adjacent to fear and mistrust by entertaining what ifs.

[Me.]

11. I UNderstand Your Point

But it has always been a flawed system

[ancianita]

20. It probably always will be. So we can't give in to the inertia of dwelling on flaw. We have to

put that aside for this year and move on together, now.

We weaken our group spirit at the time when we most need to focus on our strengths and future goals. Last year was the time to dwell on flaws.

This year is the year to show that we are greater than the sum of our parts, especially the flawed parts. They do not define our thinking this year.

Our momentum toward protecting a nation of laws over a nation of men needs to concern us all now.

[PatSeg]

9. Yes

When they could be using their resources and money elsewhere with better effect and more certain results.

What an exhausting week or two this has been and we still have the State of the Union address and Wednesday's Impeachment vote. Not to mention, Trump is sure to do or say something to set off some alarm bells. He can't go long without generating some hysterical headlines. Maybe he threatened to investigate John Bolton because the Iowa caucuses got too much media attention.

[Zolorp]

10. One person might, at least for a few days. Tehre is still a possibility of a 2012 GOP Caucus here.

PEte could be declared the winner later today and a few days from now it could be Sanders and in the end maybe Warren is the winner.

[scheming daemons]

2. I believe that will be the end result. Candidates will just focus on NH and ignore Iowa and their..

measly 41 delegates.

[Me.]

5. I Wonder If All Caucuses Are On Their Way Out?

any problems, even if they don't use the app as Nevada promises, will be a death knell

[scheming daemons]

8. Well.. there were 13 caucuses in 2016.... and only 6 this year

So let's just kill off those final 6.

[Zolorp]

12. Some states have no choice but to hold caucuses.

Wyoming, for example, holds it's primaries in August by law, so the only way to participate in the conventions are to hold caucuses.

[scheming daemons]

14. States can move their primaries earlier.

Many have.

If Wyoming wants to be part of the process, they can do so too.


If they don't, that's on them.



ps. Wyoming only gets 14 delegates. Out of nearly 4000. 0.3%.

[Zolorp]

16. If you look at Wyoming, it's extremely Republican.

The Republicans don't want the state paying for Democrats choosing a presidential nominee, and like being able to have control over how delegates to the Republican convention are chosen.

Hence, the law will never be changed there and Democrats have no choice but to hold caucuses.

My brother lives in Wyoming.

[scheming daemons]

17. They can hold their caucuses in such a way as the GOP did in Iowa last night...

First preference recorded, and that's it. Go home.


Functionally the same as a primary.... but without voting booths.

[Zolorp]

18. That's basically how it's done.

[scheming daemons]

19. Then it is effectively a "primary", but called a "caucus".

[world wide wally]

4. Great idea!

Iowa looks more like Alabama than the USA anyway

[LongtimeAZDem]

6. Already happened: "Snubbing the Iowa caucuses, Michael Bloomberg charts his own path"

Iowa? Who cares.

On the day the 2020 presidential election kicks off with the Iowa caucuses, Michael Bloomberg was half a continent and a leap of faith away in California, where the Democratic candidate sought to bring attention to a campaign that has forsworn early voting states and anchored its ambitions to California, Texas and other delegate-rich battlegrounds to come.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/election-2020/ct-michael-bloomberg-iowa-caucuses-2020-20200203-5dab2kp455htxn555oi3tjkvmu-story.html

[Sherman A1]

13. I would hope that they do so

and put an end to this process.