Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumElizabeth Warren Has a Movement. You Just Don't See It Yet.
Nobody knows who won the Iowa caucusesbut Warrens support was powered by the feminist spirit of 2018.https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/iowa-caucus-democrats-elizabeth-warren/
This Joan Walsh column is from yesterday. We may know the "winners" by now. But the column is still an interesting read.
Nevertheless, Elizabeth Warren persisted Monday night. She took selfies past midnight at a high-energy victory party, where staffers, volunteers and national surrogates said they felt very good about what the campaign had achieved. (Heres her speech.) Not that Warren declared victory: A thirsty Mayor Pete Buttigieg audaciously did that, while Senator Bernie Sanderss campaign released internal results showing him ahead of both Buttigieg and Warrenwith only 40 percent of precincts reporting. After midnight, Warren senior strategist Joe Rospars calmly tweeted, Its a very close race among the top three candidates (Warren, Sanders, Buttigieg) and Biden came a distant fourth. Calm energy is the trademark of Warrens campaign.
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Even if Warren finishes third, her vaunted ground game proved itself. And its not just a bloodless game of turf-cutting (campaign-speak for identifying potential supporters and getting them out) and door-knocking. Warren has been quietly building a movement, and in the closing days it became apparent that its a womens movement. Whatever happened, she clarified her campaigns rationale in this states grueling Thunderdome.
On Monday afternoon, at one of dozens of small rallies to get people out to caucus, an excited young volunteer named Jackie Sayers, who used to work for Senator Kamala Harris, proudly introduced top Warren surrogate Representative Katie Porter as part of the blue wave of women who organized and ran and won in 2018. Porter took that baton, shouting out her class of 2018 sister surrogates, Representatives Ayanna Pressley and Deb Haaland, also traveling Iowa for Warren, noting that the Massachusetts senators campaign is the only one whose cochairs are all women. Pressley sounded the same notes at a Warren rally on Saturday. Women have made up the majority of Warrens donors. And women made up the majority of her volunteers I met along the waywomen whove fallen hard for Warren.
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Mary Kahl was undecided when I met her at a Warren event in Oskaloosa in late May. Now she was hosting this Warren GOTC event in Des Moines. She came over to Warren because shes a medical professional and she believes in Medicare for All. I see people die. I see people unable to afford their medicine, she tells me emotionally. I ask: What about the charges Warrens plan isnt truly Medicare for All, because of its longer phase-in time than Sanderss? She cuts me off, exasperated. Please. Shes got a great plan. Its been vetted by economists. Its because shes a woman. Men dont have to answer a damn thing about details! [emphasis mine]
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At the Warren victory event, I stood in a corner with some veteran Iowa politicos who did not want to be named. Warren supporters, they were nonetheless sad for Biden. The best information I have is that he will play this out at least through South Carolina, where he hopes black voters will get him through. But I met one of Warrens South Carolina surrogates at a Des Moines GOTC event Monday afternoon, her spiritual adviser, Reverend Miniard Culpepper of Pleasant Hill Missionary Baptist Church in Boston. He says Warren will do better than expected with black voters in the Palmetto State.
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Much more at the link. Walsh provides an excellent description of her experience in Iowa.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)...and who probably won't win NH.
I like Warren and I'm impressed with her energy, but I'm not seeing her turn that into votes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)She was doing just that, per this article.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)That's a start.
I am waiting to see if the primary collapses into a two person race, if that happens, I don't expect Warren to be one of those two.
But if it stays a multi-candidate contest past Super Tuesday I can easily see Warren finishing with at least the third most delegates heading into the convention.
Time will tell.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)And he was right. He is projected to win 80% by the NYT based on the results.
Making Pete wait a week to give a victory speech is absurd.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Because Pete claimed victory. Every campaign had #s. His were correct.
Iowa is about momentum. He earned the win. Not insults/slur of being called thirsty.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Thirsty
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Would you call that a form of gas lighting? Or is it just an over the top form of strawman rhetoric?
I suppose it was the latter.
Thanks for the post, Blue.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Slammed Pete for claiming victory. It certainly did. Calling him audacious and thirsty.
Was he supposed to wait a week? No.
And this is fake outrage. People are just mad because he won. In the same position, they woul$ try to claim victory. Which is exactly what JEFF WEAVER did too.
But Pete is the thirsty one.....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)The latest count has Pete and Bernie tied at 11 delegates each.
And they declare the Iowa winner based on delegates assigned. So right now it's a tie.
Did Bernie declare victory? Um, no, he did not.
So maybe, just maybe, Pete was a teensy bit "thirsty"?
Seems so.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Was he supposed to wait a week? No..."
Chicago Tribune wished it waited before printing 'Dewey Defeats Truman" one late afternoon in early November of 1948.
Premature claims of victory can bite a candidate in the butt and wind up being the only thing they're remembered for.
The primary will run its own course in its own time, regardless of the impatient fellows righteously yelling at the rain to stop falling on them.
Pete probably did win. And great for him! But 'probably' just ain't accurate enough to take to the bank.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)in a twist over "thirsty" and "audacious," you're going to have a VERY tough time when GOPer homophobes start in.
And that's hardly "fake outrage." The words were descriptive. Pete may have been thirsty indeed, given all the hard campaigning that he's done.
And, no matter what, it is audacious to announce oneself the winner before the official results are in, even if it looks very likely to be true. In fact, "audacious" is one of the kinder words one can use.
That was literally a throwaway sentence in a long article. And THAT's ALL that you retained from it? Sheesh! I'm disappointed in you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)There's a significant difference between the two.
Pete will not be getting 80% of the delegates out of Iowa.
That said, Pete had a great Iowa caucus and was robbed of the spotlight he deserved on caucus night.
Good luck to you and your candidate moving forward!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)So Im realistic.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)As we get closer to Super Tuesday, she'll begin to throw her cards down and placing bets.
She's a wise and cool-headed player-- not really engaging in the petulant factionalism the rest of us are obsessing over, and she's studiously avoiding the idiotic, back-and-forth bumper-sticker debates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)Thanks for your take!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden