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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 03:42 PM Feb 2020

In 2016, Senator Bernie Sanders told the House Democratic caucus: "The goal isn't to win elections."







Hey Democrats, it’s the winning, stupid! By James Carvill

Political parties do not exist for factions to gain power over them and lose elections so long as the faction maintains its grip. They exist to win elections. Without power, they are nothing.

In 2016, Senator Bernie Sanders told the House Democratic caucus: “The goal isn’t to win elections.” Maybe the stakes involved with Donald Trump weren’t crystal clear then, but by God they should be now. Winning this election is all that matters — and the way to do it is not running some rat race to the furthest reaches of leftwing zombie land.

Never in my life have I seen the Democratic party suffer a case of political amnesia this bad. A little over a year ago, the party stormed the House of Representatives in the midterm elections with the largest winning margin ever.

And how did we do it? By running a diverse coalition of candidates — young, black, brown, women, gay, straight — with one basic message: while the president gets things done only for himself, we are going to get real things done for you. While the president targets your protections for pre-existing medical conditions, we are going to lower the cost of prescription drugs. While he marches to the orders of the National Rifle Association, we are going to protect your child’s life. We care about climate, infrastructure and broadband — it goes on.


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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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In 2016, Senator Bernie Sanders told the House Democratic caucus: "The goal isn't to win elections." (Original Post) octoberlib Feb 2020 OP
Count me in as wanting to win the damn election. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #1
Calling supporters of a leading candidate a "cult" is not helpful to winning anything. DanTex Feb 2020 #2
If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states and we may have Speaker Kevin McCarthy Gothmog Feb 2020 #3
Bloomberg has higher support among Black voters in NC than Sanders. octoberlib Feb 2020 #4
Bloomberg is looking to be an acceptable nominee to me if Biden is not the nominee Gothmog Feb 2020 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author denem Feb 2020 #5
I get that vibe from a lot of his supporters as well. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #6
YES IT IS. Cha Feb 2020 #8
 

OneMoreCupOfCoffee

(314 posts)
1. Count me in as wanting to win the damn election.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 03:50 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
2. Calling supporters of a leading candidate a "cult" is not helpful to winning anything.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 03:52 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(145,488 posts)
3. If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states and we may have Speaker Kevin McCarthy
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 04:03 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
4. Bloomberg has higher support among Black voters in NC than Sanders.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 04:06 PM
Feb 2020

And without Black voters , he can't win.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,488 posts)
7. Bloomberg is looking to be an acceptable nominee to me if Biden is not the nominee
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 04:46 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to octoberlib (Original post)

 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
6. I get that vibe from a lot of his supporters as well.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 04:37 PM
Feb 2020

Winning is second to ideology.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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