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Bernie Sanders Takes Back Promise To Release Medical Records 4 Months After Suffering Heart Attack At Age 78Less than four months after he was felled by a heart attack at age 78, Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders claims that he is in 'good health,'
Now 78 years old, Sanders would be 79 by the time of the 2020 presidential election, making him easily the oldest person ever elected president if he were to win the November 3 general election. Donald Trump holds the current record for oldest candidate ever elected to a first term as president. He was 70 years old on November 8, 2016, when he won that years election.
According to the American Heart Association, one of every five heart attack victims suffers a second coronary incident within five years of the first one. Americans suffer 335,000 recurrent heart attacks every year that is, heart attacks that are not the victims first. A 2018 study published by The Journal of the American Heart Association found that the median life expectancy of Americans over the age of 75 who have suffered a heart attack is 3.1 years.
In other words, half of all heart attack victims age 75 and older survive longer than 3.1 years but half die before reaching that mark.
https://www.inquisitr.com/5882648/bernie-sanders-medical-records-heart-attack/
For the record:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/inquisitr/
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Cha
(297,446 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,147 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)Not his plans, not his history, not his donations, not his taxes, not his medical, not his accomplishment or lack of.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,551 posts)and sadly, a great many people do.
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LisaM
(27,818 posts)Did he ever release them?
I don't think he makes a lot of charitable donations, though he explained this by saying that he thought government should provide a lot of the services others donate for. I actually have a sneaking sympathy with him in this, though of course I make many small donations to various organizations myself over the course of the year, particularly food banks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,446 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)The man is 80, heart attack and who knows what else. Did we get the rest of his stuff, cause Biden gave us all the stuff he has issue with.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cherryinpa
(301 posts)You can plug in his age + heart attack status, estimated weight and height into a calc and it tells you chance of a cardia event in next 10 years. I suspect his records will indicate an ominous prognosis.
I actually like some of Bernie's stuff, but he's gonna need to be clear on this.
Otherwise he's gonna take a pounding from Trump in the summer.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,446 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)We simply have higher expectations and higher standards than those who'll willingly and eagerly make excuses and look the other way. These are legitimate and reasonable questions and demands... the truth is out there and the voters deserve to know it.
The candidate that I vote for will be someone who's healthy.
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)But I expect to be disappointed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
We do not need a candidate in poor health.
Alona Cha
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Cha
(297,446 posts)Aloha!
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Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cherryinpa
(301 posts)Bernie gonna have to release sooner or later.
Trump is NOT going to play nice on this, better to get it out earlier and let us decide whether Bernie is viable to run as our candidate.
The fact that he's not releasing indicates that it could be something like a major blockage.
He doesn't look like he eats too much butter, steaks etc, but it could be heriditary.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
krissey
(1,205 posts)and keeping his word might lose votes.
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not_the_one
(2,227 posts)Bernie has found his "out.
Best case scenario, disingenuous. Worst case scenario, he lied.
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Squinch
(50,987 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pandr32
(11,599 posts)...and completely agree.
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underthematrix
(5,811 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)Sanders also told Karl that he intends to release his medical records "as soon as we can," which would include his updated medical details after his heart attack.
He promised the campaign would release "all of the information that's available," and added that he believes that same standard should "should be applicable to all candidates."
"I think when you're running for president of the United States," he said, "the American people have a right to know the condition of your health."
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-heart-attack-medical-records-campaign-2019-10
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That is not going to fly... even Sanders said the American people have a right to know the condition of your health.. the first thing that comes to mind is that something is seriously amiss.. I would expect no less from Biden Warren Buttigieg and Klobuchar as well as Bloomberg
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George II
(67,782 posts)Here's the story of his interview with Jonathan Karl:
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-heart-attack-medical-records-campaign-2019-10
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highplainsdem
(49,016 posts)release those records, and skepticism about his refusal to do so.
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Deja vu.
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Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Sanders promising to release medical records, then just releasing a few letters would make me nervous if I was trying to defend him as a transparent, healthy candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happy Hoosier
(7,359 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)if that little yellow dot had a smiley face it would be me. ☺
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
denem
(11,045 posts)slapstick, a laugh a minute.
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Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)This is for the losers -
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still_one
(92,309 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,582 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,558 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)(although I'm an oncologist, not a cardiologist), is one of two things. First is that he likely had some blockages that were 'marginal' and could have been electively treated if he was willing to be off the campaign trail for a week or so. Since he was back relatively quickly, he likely deferred that treatment until after the election - hoping that it wouldn't become problematic. If he had all diagnosed blockages taken care of at the time, there would be no problem hiding his medical records.
The second possibility is that his blood pressure is not well controlled - something that would be well documented in a cardiac patient's medical records. High blood pressure that is not responding well to medication is a big red flag for future coronary events.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,120 posts)In letters released by the Sanders campaign Monday, three of the senators doctors gave him a clean bill of health as he continues to campaign around the country in his bid to be the next president of the United States.
You are in good health currently and you have been engaging vigorously in the rigors of your campaign, travel, and other scheduled activities without any limitation, Brian Monahan, attending physician of the U.S. Congress wrote.
In December, Sanders underwent physical testing at the University of Vermont Medical Center which found there was no evidence of reduced blood flow to his heart or symptoms that would cause Sanders to stop exercising.
Mr. Sanders was able to exercise to a level that is approximately 50% higher than other men his age with a similar diagnosis, Ades wrote in his letter.
I see no reason he cannot continue campaigning without limitation and, should he be elected, I am confident he has the mental and physical stamina to fully undertake the rigors of the presidency, LeWinter added in his own letter.
Monahan wrote that Sanders has never had symptoms of heart failure before October and that now, after recent testing, there is no significant heart rhythm abnormality.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)No one would question him not releasing anything unrelated to his heart issues, so it looks strange that he won't disclose - particularly because he previously said that he would.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)thinner since he has a history of aneurysms and an almost fatal blood clot. A letter summary from Biden's doctor is good but a letter summary from Bernie's doctors isn't good enough?
O'Connor wrote that Biden is "a healthy, vigorous, 77-year-old male, who is fit to successfully execute the duties of the Presidency."
Biden is being treated for non-valvular atrial fibrillation, or AFib -- an irregular heartbeat that O'Connor said Biden experiences no symptoms of. He takes Crestor to lower cholesterol and triglyceride levels, as well as Eliquis to prevent blood clots, Nexium for acid reflux, and Allegra and a nasal spray for seasonal allergies.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/17/politics/joe-biden-medical-history/index.html
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,446 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287493842#post10
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Autumn
(45,120 posts)If this is all there is we are doing fine.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
krissey
(1,205 posts)else in his medical record. Because I got to tell you, at a very healthy 60 I have two things that would go into the report. Not end of world but like Bidens stuff, we all have something. All we got was 80 yr old Sanders heart is fine. Doesn't sound complete like Bidens at all.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)The only way to know for sure is for them to release everything.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)then back out on that promise?
After he said he would release "comprehensive" records by the end of the year?
Sanders plans to release health records by end of year
I want to make it comprehensive, Sanders said in explaining the delay. The answer is I will, probably by the end of the year.
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-heart-attack-medical-records-campaign-2019-10
I guess Bernie's shown that he's healthy enough to move goalposts....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
A true believer.
Sorry. An 80 yr old who just had a heart attack and wont release his records is not going to be President.
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Botany
(70,549 posts)... running for President.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)So there's that.
https://apnews.com/1d0c007e8527413faf8df9cf23a56277
I think it's interesting that you are one of maybe two Sanders supporters on this thread who are even trying to defend this clear reversal on a promise of transparency...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Didn't work.
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)high blood pressure.
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Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
keithbvadu2
(36,858 posts)What is there that needs to be hidden, Bernie?
Maybe you can get a nice letter from Trump's doctor.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,361 posts)Of course, I'm still waiting to see how he'll pay for M4A.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,236 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)He even has supporters that will excuse anything.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,236 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)You should be ashamed of yourself for even comparing Sanders to Trump. Dislike him all you want but it's absurd for you to even suggest that the two are comparable.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Clash City Rocker
(3,397 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Totally the actions of someone with nothing to hide concerning his health.
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Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)X = number of people who won't vote for Sanders for not releasing medical report
Y = number of people who won't vote for Sanders due to media reporting of contents of medical report
Y > X
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)Every bad outcome is the medias fault.
It goes beyond the hypocrisy. We dont really expect him to keep his promises.
Its the absurdity of it all. America is not going to elect an 80 yr old who just had a heart attack. Especially when his campaign first denied it and now they are obviously hiding something.
I just dont feel Sanders is in it to win it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LarryNM
(493 posts)It is amazing to me how candidates in their seventies can keep such demanding schedules.
The travel. The scrutiny. They must get a natural high from their performances and fans like
old rock stars on tour.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,173 posts)Sanders lack of transparency on just about everything is troubling.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,666 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
handmade34
(22,756 posts)damn be sure to choose an excellent running mate
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Happy Hoosier
(7,359 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
we can do it
(12,190 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden