Final Iowa delegate numbers:

[George II]

Buttigieg: 14
Sanders: 12
Warren: 8
Biden: 6
Klobuchar: 1

Total: 41

https://results.thecaucuses.org/

[TwilightZone]

1. Sanders and his supporters will continue to insist they won.

[FreeState]

2. Unfortunately that kind of behavior has become the norm n/t

[George II]

5. He was on one of the networks this morning saying he won by "SIX THOUSAND VOTES"....

...then almost whispered "in the first round".

[totodeinhere]

7. Well Bernie did get more votes. But the antiquated system they use gives

more weight to rural predominately white areas so even though Bernie got more votes Pete got more delegates. So yes Pete won the most delegates and congratulations to him.

[George II]

9. Iowa wanted to change it, but Sanders and his people insisted they keep it that way.

[unc70]

11. Link?

[George II]

13. Here's some of it:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/04/us/politics/iowa-caucus-changes.html

Mr. Sanders’s 2016 campaign fought for an audit in Iowa — comparing the reported results with the papers on which caucus leaders had recorded voters’ preferences — and accused the state Democratic Party of a lack of transparency.

Largely because of Mr. Sanders’s objections, the party decided to release additional numbers in 2020 that it had always logged but never made public: the number of supporters each candidate had in the first round of voting and the number he or she had in the second round, after nonviable candidates were eliminated and caucusgoers realigned.

Damned if you don't, damned if you do.

[unc70]

24. This is the opposite of what you claim

In 2016, the Sanders campaign suspected that there were BBC a lot of "errors" in the Iowa cactus results. The successfully argued to the DNC that there was no paper trail and lax accountability in Iowa's reported results. This has been a persistent issue going back decades -- for example by Edwards and others.

The Iowa results have always relied on the honesty, trust, and competency of those conducting the caucuses. But squirrelly results and cell phone videos finally pushed the DNC to impose a semblance of order on the process. For the first time, the results of the first votes were counted and reported, with a paper trail. Not surprisingly, in spite of better procedures, a paper trail, and increased vigilance, many examples of the flawed results have been documented. Certainly not as many as likely happened in the past, but still a lot.

Not damned if you do, damned if you don't. It is damned if you don't get it right. No excuse for incompetence. And now you seem to be blaming those who reported this incompetence in previous cycles!

[TwilightZone]

10. Not an excuse to lie about the results.

Sanders fully understands how the process works. Pretending he doesn't just makes him look disingenuous.

[George II]

14. It was his idea, and insistence, to release the raw votes.

[totodeinhere]

16. And of course we know why. Bernie anticipated a scenario like this where he got more

votes but fewer delegates. So he felt it might be in his interest to also have the raw vote totals published. Nothing wrong with that.

[TwilightZone]

17. Nothing wrong with wanting the information.

Declaring victory based on the first-round results, which are irrelevant in the end, is the problem. It's quite simply a lie, because he knows how the process works.

[totodeinhere]

22. I wouldn't go so far as calling it a lie. Look, all candidates try to spin things to their

advantage. It's called a campaign.

[Tiggeroshii]

12. I knowww. How dare they insist the popular vote is worth anything!

[TwilightZone]

15. It's not.

Particularly the first round.

Intentional ignorance is not a compelling argument. "I have no idea how this works, but I know I won" is hilariously disingenuous.

[George II]

18. He was upset when they didn't release the popular votes, now he's upset when they did. Hmm....

....what's up with that?

[DanTex]

31. Crazy stuff! It's almost like they believe in democracy!

[Hassin Bin Sober]

35. Bite your tongue. No one here would ever do that!

[Cha]

28. Even though Pete WON? lol

[TwilightZone]

32. *Especially* since Pete won.

haha

[Cha]

33. Precisely.

[Me.]

3. Congrats To Pete The Winner

[riversedge]

4. Congrats to Mayor Pete.

[Mike 03]

6. Congratulations, Pete Buttigieg.

[Peacetrain]

8. Congrats Pete.. that was a hard fought election and you more than any

understood how to run a caucus election..

[Zolorp]

19. Boom, clear win for Mayor Pete.

I like Mayor Pete.

[Scurrilous]

20. Congrats Pete.

No congrats to YouTube's Dewey beats Truman impersonator -

&t=3s

[George II]

21. "Thousands of volunteers knocking on hundreds of thousands of doors"....

....(he boasted that he had 25,000 volunteers) netted him only 45,000 votes. That's about 1.8 voters per volunteer over 3-4 months.

Bet he's sorry he insisted the release the popular vote. Awkward.

[Scurrilous]

27. LOL I did the math too. We think alike.

I used ABC's estimate of 10,00 volunteers. Deliberately low balled it. Either way it was very poor return on time, effort, and manpower.

My theory is that Sander's people's undisguised zealotry creeped the fuck out of the people of Iowa. The thing I saw on ABC, an old tape, one lady was weeping over the thought of helping Sanders. I was I'm sure I wasn't alone.

Link to tweet

[George II]

29. Excellent point. Didn't see your tweet, but if it's any consolation I'm now following you!!!

[Scurrilous]

30. Followed you back.

[Legends303]

23. I mean to be fair to Sanders

Has a right to declare victory because popular vote accounts just like a primary would.

[George II]

25. But he didn't want a primary, he wanted a caucus. He didn't win.

Simple example:

Three districts, each with a delegate assigned to them.

One has 200 voters show up, 130 voting for Sanders, 70 for Buttigieg. Sanders gets the delegate.
Another has 150 voters show up, 70 voting for Sanders, 80 for Buttigieg. Buttigieg gets the delegate.
The third has 100 voters show up, 30 voting for Sanders, 70 for Buttigieg. Buttigieg gets the delegate.

Popular vote? Sanders 230 votes, Buttigieg 220 votes. But Buttigieg gets 2 delegates, Sanders 1.

Both candidates went in knowing the rules. One didn't like the result and complains.

[FloridaBlues]

26. All those millions of dollars for a handful of delegates.

I take it these are the final numbers?

[George II]

34. According to the Iowa Democratic Party these are final. Estimates have been that Sanders spent....

....about $50 million in Iowa, I'd guess it's closer to $30 million. That calculates to more than $650 per vote.

[Demsrule86]

36. All the nonsense...and this is it...pitiful...8 delegates between Biden and Sanders...thousands in

other states...tell me again why we care about Iowa? And Sanders wants a re-canvass?