Democratic Primaries
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You're not the winner so far. Mayor Pete is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
leftieNanner
(15,115 posts)And twenty-something isn't anywhere close to the total needed for the nomination. So it's not time to crow yet.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)One delegate difference after only two small states.
Meh...I'd say they are virtually tied.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)so Pete leads by two.
https://whotv.com/2020/02/09/iowa-gives-buttigieg-the-largest-delegate-count-followed-closely-by-sanders/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)In the case of Iowa, he falsely claimed he won, pretending not to understand how the process works, and his supporters repeated the same nonsense on social media. They still are.
The lie then turned into momentum, so much so that prognosticators like 538 made wild swings in their predictions, declaring him the clear favorite with not much actual data behind them.
It all seems kind of familiar, actually....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,275 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)My point was that he managed to sell the lie pretty effectively. I agree that his staff are rarely "good" in any other context. They do him much more harm than good, in my opinion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
whistler162
(11,155 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem2
(8,168 posts)It's fun I suppose, but there's a LONG way to go!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,419 posts)Parties may have varying views about what they want to talk about.
There may also be a phenomenon of varying emphases on the popular vote and electoral college.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)You need 1990 delegates for a majority. You don't get any extra points for popular vote totals. This isn't like an exam where you get extra credit.
Claiming a victory in a caucus based on popular vote, while losing the delegate total, is simply a lie. Sanders knows better and did it anyway.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,419 posts)"Bernie Sanders claims he won because more voters chose him. He should know that's irrelevant - proof that he's a LIAR!"
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)Sanders won the popular vote in Iowa and New Hampshire.
Each state runs their caucus/primary independently. The popular vote total is relevant for each individual contest, but not relevant to the overall race.
So saying he's ahead in the popular vote is dishonest.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,419 posts)Each state ran an election to determine electors to electoral college.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)For the popular vote to even start being relevant, primary rules would have to be uniform across all states.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)C'mon...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,419 posts)It depends on if a candidate is selected on the first vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)the nominee, regardless of what happens in the first vote. On the second vote, the superdelegates, mostly elected Democrats, will vote. Other delegates, whose candidates they are pledged to but two do not get 15% of the vote can vote as they choose.
We'll know more when more delegates have been allocated. Right now, only a few have been.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Beringia
(4,316 posts)v
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Buzz cook
(2,472 posts)A bit early for the delegate count.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)There's a reason why 538 has Sanders at 38% to win the nomination, with no other candidate above 18% (Biden). And why Harry Enten has Sanders at 5.5 out of 10, with no other candidate anywhere close. Sanders is the frontrunner without a doubt.
Just like in the early going of 2016. Sure, the delegate count was fairly close, but Clinton was clearly the frontrunner and it was evident on Super Tuesday that she had the nomination in the bag.
With Buttigieg and Klobuchar, it's hard to say where they might win going forward. They have near-zero support among POC and put all their resources into the early states, as underdogs always do in hopes that they'll gain momentum and donations, so as to build infrastructure elsewhere.
For Biden, it all comes down to these next 2 contests.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,291 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden