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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:03 AM Feb 2020

Just to review: The media is out to get Bernie...

The Democratic Establishment is out to get Bernie...
The Billionaires are out to get Bernie...
The Union Bosses are out to get Bernie...

Have I left anyone out?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Just to review: The media is out to get Bernie... (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2020 OP
are you? :) Kurt V. Feb 2020 #1
I suppose I fit into the "Democratic Establishment" brooklynite Feb 2020 #2
It's going to create the *us against the world* rallying cry. Unintentionally Kurt V. Feb 2020 #4
Reminds me of evangelicals in this country Dem2 Feb 2020 #3
"Russia?" "Bernie Bros?" David__77 Feb 2020 #5
DING DING DING!! WE HAVE A WINNER!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #11
Well, Bernie Is The Only Candidate With Net Positive Mentions By Russia... TomCADem Feb 2020 #15
Cool infographic. David__77 Feb 2020 #18
It's true. James48 Feb 2020 #6
I'm with Bernie too...you can tell he's surging due to the endless, baseless Bernie bashing. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #10
Salon: Trump campaign's brilliant new tactic: Whining about media bias TomCADem Feb 2020 #21
NBC News: Russia will try to meddle in 2020 U.S. election TomCADem Feb 2020 #19
I'm new to this but what is your point Jim_S Feb 2020 #7
Cue the crickets... chirp! chirp! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #13
You left out the GOP and Pres Delinquent... CowboyProgressive Feb 2020 #8
MSNBC: Trump Allies Push Sanders Conspiracy Theories After IA Caucus Chaos TomCADem Feb 2020 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #37
Too bad simply telling the truth about this man and his past isn't on their agenda. jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #9
SERIOUSLY! Let's play the imagine-if-Bernie-had-said-this game; what you think the response wud be?! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #17
I vcan't say I'm out to get him. That is way too srong. I will say I hope he's not our nomine. napi21 Feb 2020 #12
He gets independents. And any repug who doesn't want to vote for trump. JudyM Feb 2020 #14
THIS!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #22
DT will scream socialist at anyone we nominate, he will lie, cheat or anything he can do to hang Meadowoak Feb 2020 #16
Self described.. Cha Feb 2020 #23
Everyone but trump and republicans apparently.. Callado119 Feb 2020 #24
Bernies BIG LIE Horizens Feb 2020 #25
The ANTI Progressive Socialists. democratisphere Feb 2020 #26
It is kind of ironic since his campaign and surrogates eilen Feb 2020 #27
Because somehow Bernie's stump speech is going to make capitalism go away. betsuni Feb 2020 #28
And standing on Mitch McConnell's lawn screaming will make him pass legislation! Zolorp Feb 2020 #34
Irt is called vetting Gothmog Feb 2020 #29
The "Media" is torn up now... Mike Nelson Feb 2020 #30
The media has swallowed Trump's talking point hook line and sinker Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #31
no joke... myohmy2 Feb 2020 #32
Maybe it's Sanders who is out to get Sanders? Zolorp Feb 2020 #33
LOL! It's a phony as the "War-on-Christmas" bullshit! NurseJackie Feb 2020 #35
This is thd same paranoia you hear from Trump and his supporters Jose Garcia Feb 2020 #36
#NotAllUnionBosses DanTex Feb 2020 #38
 

brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
2. I suppose I fit into the "Democratic Establishment"
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:07 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
4. It's going to create the *us against the world* rallying cry. Unintentionally
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:13 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
3. Reminds me of evangelicals in this country
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:11 AM
Feb 2020

The war on... (fill in the blank)

Persecution motivates people.

It also usually diverges from reality and thus creates divides between peoples.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

David__77

(23,418 posts)
5. "Russia?" "Bernie Bros?"
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:13 AM
Feb 2020

I imagine that applies to someone else’s ideas about who is out to get who.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
11. DING DING DING!! WE HAVE A WINNER!!
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:25 AM
Feb 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
15. Well, Bernie Is The Only Candidate With Net Positive Mentions By Russia...
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:35 AM
Feb 2020

...besides Tulsi Gabbard. I wonder why that is the case?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

David__77

(23,418 posts)
18. Cool infographic.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:41 AM
Feb 2020

What does Transnistria say?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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James48

(4,436 posts)
6. It's true.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:13 AM
Feb 2020

It’s amazing how many people want to stop Bernie, while at the same time, so many people are desperately crying out to put Bernie in the White House.

We need him. They all want to stop him.


I’m with BERNIE!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
10. I'm with Bernie too...you can tell he's surging due to the endless, baseless Bernie bashing.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:23 AM
Feb 2020

What you're seein is the BACKLASH from the working class and economically disadvantaged in this country who know Bernie is FIGHTING FOR THEM!! I hope they KEEP bashin Bernie... it just makes him stronger!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
21. Salon: Trump campaign's brilliant new tactic: Whining about media bias
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:53 AM
Feb 2020

That talking point about being persecuted by the media. Where have I heard that before? It sometimes seems like Bernie and Trump's campaign is reading from the same playbook.

https://www.salon.com/2019/09/03/trump-campaigns-brilliant-new-tactic-whining-about-media-bias-as-the-right-has-for-years/

It looks as though the Donald Trump's 2020 campaign is gearing up to be quite the exceptional grift. It's unknown how much money Trump himself plans to make off all of it, but we do know that he has always thought running for president would be an excellent money-making opportunity. Way back in 2000, he told Fortune Magazine, “It’s very possible that I could be the first presidential candidate to run and make money on it."

As it happens, it's not likely that his unorthodox 2016 campaign ended up netting him a profit, despite his efforts to flow as much money as possible to his hotels, clubs and private airplane. Since he was running as a self-financed candidate, he ended up spending more of his own money than he took in.

Last week multiple news organizations reported that Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale appears to have an unusual business agreement that's providing him massive compensation compared to any other presidential campaigns. One assumes that Trump is aware of all this money flowing to Pascale. If he isn't, there's likely to be hell to pay. He doesn't like his people making money off the Trump brand if he's not getting his taste.

* * *
Kvetching and complaining are hallmarks of the Trump era, with the president excelling in his leadership role of whiner-in-chief. Hardly a day goes by that he doesn't throw a tantrum on social media about how unfair everyone is to him. So this strategy fits the Trump campaign nicely.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
19. NBC News: Russia will try to meddle in 2020 U.S. election
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:42 AM
Feb 2020

I think Bernie also has a lot of people who want to help him. Afterall, he is the only top polling candidate with more positive Russian state sponsored mentioned than negative ones.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/russia-will-try-meddle-2020-u-s-election-intelligence-report-n1134446

Russia wants to help pro-Russia candidates, the report says, but it also meddles because it wants to show that Western nations can't hold fair elections.

WASHINGTON — Russia interfered in Western elections in 2019 and is likely to do so again in 2020, according to the latest annual threat assessment by the Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service.

NBC News obtained an exclusive preview of the annual report from the Baltic nation's intelligence agency, which warns that Russia will continue to pursue cyber operations that threaten other nations.

"Russia's cyber operations have been successful and, to date, have not been sanctioned enough by the West to force Russia to abandon them," the report says.

Russia will try to interfere in the U.S. presidential election in November and in parliamentary elections in the nation of Georgia in October, it warns, saying, "The main goal is to ensure a more beneficial election result for Russia by favoring Russian-friendly candidates or those who have the most divisive influence in the West."
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Jim_S

(62 posts)
7. I'm new to this but what is your point
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:16 AM
Feb 2020

exactly?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
13. Cue the crickets... chirp! chirp!
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:25 AM
Feb 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 
8. You left out the GOP and Pres Delinquent...
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:17 AM
Feb 2020

Is this how we try to coalesce around the eventual head of the DNC?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
20. MSNBC: Trump Allies Push Sanders Conspiracy Theories After IA Caucus Chaos
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:47 AM
Feb 2020

Who is more pro-Bernie? Bernie's campaign pushing conspiracy theories attacking the "Democratic Establishment" or the Trump campaign jumping on Bernie's persecution bandwagon?



What I wonder is whether Bernie's campaign is counting on this support by pushing out attacks on other Democrats and the Democratic party generally knowing that such attacks will be amplified by Republican and foreign political operations?

You look at this thread and you see Bernie's supporters pushing the same talking points that are then amplified by Republicans.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to TomCADem (Reply #20)

 

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
9. Too bad simply telling the truth about this man and his past isn't on their agenda.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:18 AM
Feb 2020

"We disproportionately stop whites too much and minorities too little".



In a just world, if the aforementioned groups listed in the OP were indeed out to get anyone, one would like to think it would be someone who once made statements like the above, or who endorsed Dumbya Bush (Anyone else remember when most Democrats thought he was the most evil man on the planet?) for President TWICE.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
17. SERIOUSLY! Let's play the imagine-if-Bernie-had-said-this game; what you think the response wud be?!
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:37 AM
Feb 2020

I don't see how ANYONE thinks multi-billionaire Mike Bloomberg, with his unambiguos positions on race, George Bush, Wall Street, etc etc is the replacement for Joe now that he has plummeted from frontrunner status and is no longer seen as the most electable candidate.

Though, I must say, as a Bernie supporter, I can't think of a better opponent for him to debate than Bloomberg, to contrast his progressive policies and show why Bernie is the superior, most electable Democratic candidate. Bring it... can't wait!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

napi21

(45,806 posts)
12. I vcan't say I'm out to get him. That is way too srong. I will say I hope he's not our nomine.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:25 AM
Feb 2020

I like him & a lot of his ideas. I was a strong supporter in 2015. This time, I'm really afraid of what DT could do to him. Yes I know he will try to take down any candidate we have, but with Bernie he can scream SOCIALIST constantly, and there are still a lot of older people remember that title being closely associated with communism. Stalin & Mussolini. Then of course he's NOT a Democrat!

I believe we NEED Independents & moderate Repugs to all vote for our Nominee and I don't think Bernie can gat them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JudyM

(29,250 posts)
14. He gets independents. And any repug who doesn't want to vote for trump.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:31 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
22. THIS!!
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:54 AM
Feb 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Meadowoak

(5,546 posts)
16. DT will scream socialist at anyone we nominate, he will lie, cheat or anything he can do to hang
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:37 AM
Feb 2020

On to power. I'm with Bernie!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(297,271 posts)
23. Self described..
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:55 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Callado119

(171 posts)
24. Everyone but trump and republicans apparently..
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 03:12 AM
Feb 2020

...because they know they’ll beat him like a drum if we’re crazy enough to nominate him..it would be the gift of the century to republicans..

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
26. The ANTI Progressive Socialists.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 04:15 AM
Feb 2020

Last edited Thu Feb 13, 2020, 04:47 AM - Edit history (1)

If I were to vote in a presidential
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eilen

(4,950 posts)
27. It is kind of ironic since his campaign and surrogates
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:03 AM
Feb 2020

make concerted efforts to bash literally everybody else, between whisper campaigns, doxxing critics, outright lying tweets, and posting all kinds of oppo research, pile-ons etc. And the guy hasn't even been vetted-- literally given the soft pass.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(25,533 posts)
28. Because somehow Bernie's stump speech is going to make capitalism go away.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:18 AM
Feb 2020

And everybody is TERRIFIED.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
34. And standing on Mitch McConnell's lawn screaming will make him pass legislation!
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:46 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
29. Irt is called vetting
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:52 AM
Feb 2020

I am glad that the media is finally vetting sanders

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Mike Nelson

(9,956 posts)
30. The "Media" is torn up now...
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:49 AM
Feb 2020

... a "Trump/Bernie Show" would be a ratings winner! ...but that Trump/Bloomberg ad revenue looks mighty nice, too!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
31. The media has swallowed Trump's talking point hook line and sinker
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:34 AM
Feb 2020

Bernie Sanders is routinely called a Socialist by pundits and reporters nowadays. He is no longer referred to as "the Independent Senator from Vermont", or as someone who has "called himself a Democratic Socialist in the past." No, the word "Socialist" rolls right off their tongues just like Donald Trump would have it. At least since he entered Congress decades ago I don't believe Sanders has ever identified himself flat out as a "Socialist". Nor are his policies any more "Socialist" than were FDR's before him.The media doesn't call Warren and Bloomberg "Republicans" today, do they?

Meanwhile Sanders is quite proud of the Union support he has gotten throughout the country. To sum up his feelings about organized labor as "Bernie thinks Union Bosses are out to get him" is disingenuous.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

myohmy2

(3,163 posts)
32. no joke...
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:43 AM
Feb 2020

...I've said it before...

...there are techniques the MSM Big Money talking heads use to dis us and Bernie when we're not looking...

...they never speak among themselves of how Bernie has emerged as the Democratic Party's front runner or leader...

...the never speak among themselves how Bernie is a strong Democratic candidate capable of beating trump in the Fall...

...they never speak of Bernie's victories, rallies, interviews or support as 'success'...

...but they certainly do speak of Bernie as a Democratic Party 'problem' that somehow needs to be addressed, and to that end, which of the other candidates would most likely correct and address the 'problem'...

...tell me if it ain't so...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
33. Maybe it's Sanders who is out to get Sanders?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:45 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
35. LOL! It's a phony as the "War-on-Christmas" bullshit!
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:47 AM
Feb 2020
The media is out to get Bernie...
LOL! It's a phony as the "War-on-Christmas" bullshit!
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Jose Garcia

(2,598 posts)
36. This is thd same paranoia you hear from Trump and his supporters
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:50 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
38. #NotAllUnionBosses
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:37 AM
Feb 2020

But, yeah, for the most part, the media, the wealthy, the Democratic establishment, and union bosses with close ties to establishment Democrats are opposing Bernie. Is this not obvious?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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