Coming at 4 PM Eastern: Culinary's endorsement in the NV Caucus...

[brooklynite]

Link to tweet

(nb: they've been clear that they're not supporing someone who would take away the Union Healthcare plan)

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[squirecam]

1. This endorsement matters

Congrats to whomever got it.

[bluewater]

2. What type of DU poll is that? where are the other Candidates?

Is this an editing mistake?

Or did you purposely leave out the other candidates?

[Jose Garcia]

3. It should be pretty obvious that there are two candidates that the union will not endorse

[brooklynite]

4. They won't be supporting Sanders or Warren re: Medicare for All

[bluewater]

5. lol So you left out the candidates on purpose. Slick. Very Slick.

lol

Is that some new "neural-marketing" trick?

A DU push poll, of sorts?




You had better hope that one of those THREE you chose actually gets the endorsement...

Or I will be disappointed in you.

[squirecam]

6. Yep

I hope it’s Amy....But I’m scared it may be Biden.

If it’s Amy, it will be seen as a bet on a campaign hopeful and trending upwards.

If it’s Biden, many will see it as a Hail Mary to save Biden.

[bluewater]

7. Hell, it could be Bloomberg.

The union endorsement is for more than just the Nevada Caucus.

It's who they want to win the nomination.

[squirecam]

8. Nope

It’s not him.

I’ll bet their members were concerned about splitting the vote, and Sanders winning. So they had both inside and outside pressure to pick one.

Sanders did not do well at the town hall...

https://www.courthousenews.com/sanders-faces-grilling-on-health-care-in-vegas-union-town-hall/

“We went on strike to protect our health care, health care I need for my family,” Munoz said. “We love our culinary health care. We want to keep it. We don’t want to change it. Why would you change it?”

[brooklynite]

9. Bloomberg isn't running in Nevada...

[bluewater]

10. Isn't the endorsement for the nomination? Not just the caucus?

The tweets seems to say that is the case.

NEWS: @Culinary226 will announce its Democratic presidential endorsement at 1 p.m. PT at a Vegas press conference

[squirecam]

12. So their members can caucus

For the pick. So it can’t be Bloomberg.

[bluewater]

16. Not necessarily just for the caucus.

But if they select Biden it would be a moot point in any case.

But I see where you are coming from. It probably will be for someone running in the caucus in any case.

[squirecam]

11. And there is no write in on the early vote ballot

Just uncommitted.

[bluewater]

13. The tweet say the endorsement is for the nomination

Not just specifically for the caucus.

NEWS: @Culinary226 will announce its Democratic presidential endorsement at 1 p.m. PT at a Vegas press conference

[squirecam]

15. You really just like arguing nonsense just to do so....

I’ve tried to help answer why obviously it can’t be him.

[bluewater]

17. Man, stop the insults, I just agreed with you in another post in this thread.

SQUIRECAM: You really just like arguing nonsense just to do so....

Seriously, stop with ad hominem attacks in the middle of a discussion.

here, here's the link to the post where I JUST SAID I see your point.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287512754#post16

Let me quote that post for you too:

But if they select Biden it would be a moot point in any case.

But I see where you are coming from. It probably will be for someone running in the caucus in any case.

So stop with the gratuitous insults.

[squirecam]

18. Yes you agreed

After I posted the above. Check the timing.

[bluewater]

20. Yeah, boom boom rapid fire posts.

Posts 15, and 16 went up within seconds of each other.

I was typing how I agreed with you while you were typing insults.

You just hit return first.

And the damn thing is you STLL think it's alright to start hurling insults in the middle of a polite discussion.

Just stop with that bullshit.

Squirecam: You really just like arguing nonsense just to do so....

That's no excuse for crap like that. But if that's all you can bring to the discussion, I guess that's all you can bring.

[denem]

14. Joe's done. Go Amy!

[DanTex]

19. So they've ruled out the two most consistently pro-labor candidates in the field.

Even more ironic is that by attacking Bernie, they're effectively helping Bloomberg, the most anti-labor candidate in the field.

[squirecam]

22. Biden and Amy are pro labor

95% lifetime rating for Amy

https://aflcio.org/scorecard/legislators

[bluewater]

23. Warren and Sanders Are even more Pro-Labor than her

98% lifetime rating for Elizabeth Warren

98% lifetime rating for Bernie Sanders

https://aflcio.org/scorecard/legislators

[squirecam]

24. Yes. 3%.

Nt

[bluewater]

28. AFL-CIO's listings show Biden voting its way ONLY 85% of the time over his entire Senate career

From a 2008 Presidential Primary debate:

Best Labor Record?

Sen. Biden claimed to have the best labor record of all the candidates present that evening:
Biden: Look at our records. There’s no one on this stage, mainly because of my longevity, that has a better labor record than me.
Actually, the opposite is true. All the candidates on the stage had a better "lifetime" labor record than Biden, as measured by the AFL-CIO’s ratings of Senate and House votes. The AFL-CIO’s latest listings show Biden voting its way 85 percent of the time over his entire Senate career – the lowest lifetime rating of all the candidates on the stage that night.

https://www.factcheck.org/2007/08/afl-cio-democratic-forum/

OMG, Warren and Sanders are BOTH much more pro-labor than Biden was!

Both Warren and Sanders are 13% higher than Biden was over his entire Senate Career!!!

[bluewater]

25. How does the union decide on the endorsement?

Does the leadership decide?

Do they survey their membership?

[squirecam]

27. They had a town hall

“We went on strike to protect our health care, health care I need for my family,” Munoz said. “We love our culinary health care. We want to keep it. We don’t want to change it. Why would you change it?”

https://www.courthousenews.com/sanders-faces-grilling-on-health-care-in-vegas-union-town-hall/


https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/amy-klobuchar-well-received-at-culinary-union-forum-1933508/


U.S. Sen. Amy Klobuchar returned to Las Vegas Saturday for the latest round of Culinary Union Local 226 presidential candidate forums, where she mixed moderate proposals and attacks on President Donald Trump with jokes and personal stories during her 40-minute question-and-answer session. The Minnesota senator was well-received by a crowded union hall assembled on a Saturday morning.

The town hall was part of a series hosted by the powerful union and its parent organization, UNITE HERE. Former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg hit the stage after Klobuchar.

— Health care the top issue As with previous town halls, the culinary union laid down a marker on health care: Its members fought to get the best benefits in the state, and they want to keep them.

Klobuchar, who has opposed Medicare for All in the Senate and on the campaign trail, breezed through the question by promising exactly that. She shared an anecdote about needing to build bridges, not blow them up, to get across Minnesota’s many lakes.

“We do not want to take those benefits away,” she said. “We do not want to blow those up. And that’s why I believe in a public option and expanding on the Affordable Care Act.”

[bluewater]

30. That's doesn't quite answer my question.

Yes, they had a townhall.

Does the Leadership make the final decision who to endorse?

Or was a survey sent out to all 60,000 members of the union?

OBVIOUSLY 60,000 union members were not at that townhall you mentioned.

If you don't know the answer, that's OK, just say so. Neither do I at the moment.

[squirecam]

32. A crowded union hall LOVED her answer

On a public option.

I’d say that was clear evidence of the membership being involved.

[bluewater]

33. Must have been VERY Crowded with 60,000 member in it! lol

So, do you do know if the Leadership makes the decision or if a binding survey of the 60,000 union members does?

I don't want to be presumptuous and guess at your knowledge about this specific question.

That would not be polite.

But based on your last reply, it SEEMS you do not.

That's fine.

I will see if I can get that information someplace else and will post it if I can.

[bluewater]

38. WELL, NO ONE was Endorsed. So much for that Townhall LOVING Amy.

I guess the Leadership listened to ALL it's members.

Not just those that went to a townhall.

[squirecam]

39. Guess I'll have to be satisfied with the Las Vegas Sun endorsement.

Nt

[squirecam]

21. Well ralston has his guess...

Jon Ralston
@RalstonReports
Culinary endorsement odds:

No endorsement: Even money
Tepid Biden: 3-1
Amy/Pete: 6-1
Strong Biden: 20-1
Warren: 100-1
Steyer: 500-1
Bernie: Cost of M4A-1

[Renew Deal]

35. "Bernie: Cost of M4A-1"

[Iliyah]

26. That's 1:00 here in California . . .

I guess this Union is pretty powerful?

[squirecam]

29. That's an understatement politically

They + Reid were they key to NV democrats success during the past few decades.

You DONT piss them off.


“We went on strike to protect our health care, health care I need for my family,” Munoz said. “We love our culinary health care. We want to keep it. We don’t want to change it. Why would you change it?”

https://www.courthousenews.com/sanders-faces-grilling-on-health-care-in-vegas-union-town-hall/


https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/amy-klobuchar-well-received-at-culinary-union-forum-1933508/


U.S. Sen. Amy Klobuchar returned to Las Vegas Saturday for the latest round of Culinary Union Local 226 presidential candidate forums, where she mixed moderate proposals and attacks on President Donald Trump with jokes and personal stories during her 40-minute question-and-answer session. The Minnesota senator was well-received by a crowded union hall assembled on a Saturday morning.

The town hall was part of a series hosted by the powerful union and its parent organization, UNITE HERE. Former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg hit the stage after Klobuchar.

— Health care the top issue As with previous town halls, the culinary union laid down a marker on health care: Its members fought to get the best benefits in the state, and they want to keep them.

Klobuchar, who has opposed Medicare for All in the Senate and on the campaign trail, breezed through the question by promising exactly that. She shared an anecdote about needing to build bridges, not blow them up, to get across Minnesota’s many lakes.

“We do not want to take those benefits away,” she said. “We do not want to blow those up. And that’s why I believe in a public option and expanding on the Affordable Care Act.”

[Iliyah]

31. Senator Reid!

Ok . . .

[squirecam]

36. Yes

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Reid

[obamanut2012]

34. That's why I think it will be Joe or Amy

MAYBE MP.

[bluewater]

37. HAHAHA No one gets the endorsement.

The 60,000 strong union said it LOVES all our candidates.

And that their goal is to defeat Trump!!!



Why didn't this poll have THAT as a choice?

So much for leaving Sanders and Warren off this poll.

Sorry, I just find this amusing as hell.

Not including ALL the candidates in this poll was a mistake and bordered on push-polling.