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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:32 PM Feb 2020

If I had to vote today, I'd vote for Sanders.

Looks like it's between him and Bloomberg, and between those two I trust Bernie more, so as of now I'm team Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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If I had to vote today, I'd vote for Sanders. (Original Post) redqueen Feb 2020 OP
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #1
Well take note that I'm going by the 'if I had to vote today' descriptor. redqueen Feb 2020 #6
I can understand that Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #11
"as of now" left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #2
Yep - I'm not in love. redqueen Feb 2020 #8
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #3
Welcome. redqueen mvd Feb 2020 #4
I'd be able to vote for any of them honestly. redqueen Feb 2020 #10
I am also vote blue no matter who this time mvd Feb 2020 #20
EXACTLY. redqueen Feb 2020 #24
You really think Sanders is better able to beat Trump than Bloomberg? honest.abe Feb 2020 #5
Any polling to support that opinion? redqueen Feb 2020 #12
Yes. honest.abe Feb 2020 #18
Good to know. redqueen Feb 2020 #19
If it again comes down to appealing to working class blue collar voters in the rust belt, thesquanderer Feb 2020 #13
Interesting argument. honest.abe Feb 2020 #33
Of course. He was first to sign "the pledge" and he has repeated it recently. (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2020 #36
I have zero confidence in Sanders pledging anything.. honest.abe Feb 2020 #39
Absolutely not. whttevrr Feb 2020 #43
Bernie has a powerful following based on substance, Bloomberg is banking that his money Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #16
I think it will come down to one of them too, and I appreciate your reasoning n/t Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #7
Someone recently posted about getting behind the top contenders. redqueen Feb 2020 #14
I switched from Warren to Sanders in early January (but always liked them both) Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #44
Welcome. You will like it here! Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #9
Thanks! redqueen Feb 2020 #15
re: "Looks like it's between him and Bloomberg" thesquanderer Feb 2020 #17
This election is terrifying. redqueen Feb 2020 #22
The Revolution is here and now! (There will donuts and strong coffee) Indepatriot Feb 2020 #21
I like the sound of that! redqueen Feb 2020 #23
I like Bernie evertonfc Feb 2020 #25
Yeah, well we either spend 4 months talking about socialism redqueen Feb 2020 #27
Well stated. JudyM Feb 2020 #41
That works. Jirel Feb 2020 #26
I wanted Liz to run for so long. Would love to vote for her. redqueen Feb 2020 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #28
I dunno, I kinda doubt it. redqueen Feb 2020 #30
You think that the majority of Americans, both rural and urban, would get out to vote for Bernie? Kablooie Feb 2020 #31
I think voters in swing states are more likely to support Bernie redqueen Feb 2020 #34
You mean George McGovern? kimbutgar Feb 2020 #32
No, that was 50 years ago. I meant who I said - Bernie Sanders redqueen Feb 2020 #35
If my choice is Bloomberg and Sanders Zolorp Feb 2020 #37
Congrats on your decision! Devil Child Feb 2020 #38
I *so*want Yang to have a chunk of responsibility in the next administration. JudyM Feb 2020 #42
Yes, I really love Yang. redqueen Feb 2020 #46
How can you like both Bloomberg and Bernie? Polybius Feb 2020 #40
There are things I like and don't like about both. redqueen Feb 2020 #45
Congrats, redqueen, on your new candidate. BlueWI Feb 2020 #47
 

Uncle Joe

(58,364 posts)
1. Kicked and recommended
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:33 PM
Feb 2020

Welcome aboard redqueen

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
6. Well take note that I'm going by the 'if I had to vote today' descriptor.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:41 PM
Feb 2020

If Yang gets involved with a campaign I'll be supporting them for sure.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Uncle Joe

(58,364 posts)
11. I can understand that
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:44 PM
Feb 2020

but it's still appreciated.

Personally, I hope Andrew does endorse Bernie although it won't affect my decision to support him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
8. Yep - I'm not in love.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:42 PM
Feb 2020

There are definitely circumstances that would make me switch my support.

For Yang I was rock solid.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to redqueen (Original post)

 

mvd

(65,174 posts)
4. Welcome. redqueen
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:39 PM
Feb 2020

For me Bloomberg (goes against what Bernie is most about) is last and Warren is second - still haven’t ruled out voting for Warren completely.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
10. I'd be able to vote for any of them honestly.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:43 PM
Feb 2020

I can say that knowing Tulsi won't get it

Of all of our candidates I'd have the most issue with Bloomberg but in the end - he ain't Trump, and that's that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mvd

(65,174 posts)
20. I am also vote blue no matter who this time
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:49 PM
Feb 2020

I don’t have any other choice. I would really hate if it was Bloomberg, but I think the country wouldn’t survive 4 more years of Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
24. EXACTLY.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:54 PM
Feb 2020

I'd vote for a frickin Chauncey Gardiner.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
5. You really think Sanders is better able to beat Trump than Bloomberg?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:40 PM
Feb 2020

I dont.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
12. Any polling to support that opinion?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:44 PM
Feb 2020

So far it seems Bernie's holding his own.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
19. Good to know.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:49 PM
Feb 2020

That'll make it easier for me to vote for him if it comes down to it

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
13. If it again comes down to appealing to working class blue collar voters in the rust belt,
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:44 PM
Feb 2020

then yeah, I think it's very possible that Sanders could do better against Trump than Bloomberg, especially since supposedly we'll have Bloomberg's financial resources behind us either way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
33. Interesting argument.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:45 PM
Feb 2020

So Bloomberg backs us no matter what. How about Sanders?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
36. Of course. He was first to sign "the pledge" and he has repeated it recently. (n/t)
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:52 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
39. I have zero confidence in Sanders pledging anything..
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:29 PM
Feb 2020

based on what we saw in 2016.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
43. Absolutely not.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:11 PM
Feb 2020

Sanders past performance is indicative of how he and his supporters will act when he does not win.

Sanders supporters will find some negative trait to latch onto and suckle it until the minor email-like issue becomes a catastrophic flow of fail-milk. They will sit at home and pout.

Everyone else will have to pick up their slack and GOTV!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Uncle Joe

(58,364 posts)
16. Bernie has a powerful following based on substance, Bloomberg is banking that his money
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:47 PM
Feb 2020

can manufacture enough via T.V. saturation, I have more faith in the former.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
7. I think it will come down to one of them too, and I appreciate your reasoning n/t
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:41 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
14. Someone recently posted about getting behind the top contenders.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:46 PM
Feb 2020

And I decided I was ready to make that move today.

I would've loved if Warren was doing better.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
44. I switched from Warren to Sanders in early January (but always liked them both)
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:43 PM
Feb 2020

One of the reasons why I did so was because I thought she was showing signs of not being able to forge a winning coalition (her fund raising totals were just being released). I would have been happy to remain in Warren's camp, and would still be happy if she somehow became our nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Nanjeanne

(4,960 posts)
9. Welcome. You will like it here!
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:42 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
17. re: "Looks like it's between him and Bloomberg"
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:48 PM
Feb 2020

If that's what it looks like after Super Tuesday, I'll be joining you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
22. This election is terrifying.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:50 PM
Feb 2020

There's literally never been more at stake.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
21. The Revolution is here and now! (There will donuts and strong coffee)
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:50 PM
Feb 2020

Welcome!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
23. I like the sound of that!
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:51 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
25. I like Bernie
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:55 PM
Feb 2020

He will cost of the House. I like the guy with 60 billion. The best down he will give Trump will be epic. I don't 2ant to spend 4 months talking about socialism

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
27. Yeah, well we either spend 4 months talking about socialism
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:02 PM
Feb 2020

or we spend 4 months talking about how Bloomberg is suddenly sorry about massive civil rights violations that he ignored but claimed no one told him about.

Oh, and the Central Park 5.

I know which set of smears I'd rather defend against.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Jirel

(2,018 posts)
26. That works.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:57 PM
Feb 2020

Still hoping for Liz, but I'll be about as happy for President Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
29. I wanted Liz to run for so long. Would love to vote for her.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:04 PM
Feb 2020

My daughter still might be team Warren.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to redqueen (Original post)

 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
30. I dunno, I kinda doubt it.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:07 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
31. You think that the majority of Americans, both rural and urban, would get out to vote for Bernie?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:14 PM
Feb 2020

Because no matter what he offers, it will come to nothing if Trump wins again.
In fact if he didn't win, his policies would probably never have a chance to be considered again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
34. I think voters in swing states are more likely to support Bernie
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:47 PM
Feb 2020

who's more of a working man's candidate, than a billionaire media mogul, yes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

kimbutgar

(21,155 posts)
32. You mean George McGovern?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:28 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
35. No, that was 50 years ago. I meant who I said - Bernie Sanders
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:48 PM
Feb 2020

A lot has changed over the past 50 years

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
37. If my choice is Bloomberg and Sanders
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:53 PM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg.

Hands Down.

I'd walk a thousand miles drumming up support for him, too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
38. Congrats on your decision!
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:55 PM
Feb 2020

My condolences again for Yang’s withdrawal. He was a strong preference of mine and sad to see him go. I’m hoping President Sanders (or other) has a role to offer him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

JudyM

(29,250 posts)
42. I *so*want Yang to have a chunk of responsibility in the next administration.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:04 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
46. Yes, I really love Yang.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 12:38 AM
Feb 2020

His candidacy was a breath of fresh air. I don't agree with him 100% on every issue but on the whole I found him to be the leader with the qualities I most would like to see in the WH. And his economics policy was the one I've been waiting for for decades. The execution of it wasn't perfect, but it was passable in a Congress with conservative Dems and republicans, and it would have done so much for so many. I really do wish he had caught on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Polybius

(15,423 posts)
40. How can you like both Bloomberg and Bernie?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:54 PM
Feb 2020

They are 180 politically.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
45. There are things I like and don't like about both.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 12:34 AM
Feb 2020

Nobody is perfect, and I don't love any candidate's policy proposals 100%.

But they're both supportive of democratic party goals - prioritizing the environment, most importantly - so I don't find it all that hard to put other things aside and get behind them.

We have one planet. That's it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
47. Congrats, redqueen, on your new candidate.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 02:14 AM
Feb 2020

I liked Andrew Yang too. I leaned a lot from him. He had a very good critique of the rural economy and a great personal style.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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