Democratic Primaries
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Lets start with endorsements. Background: Bloomberg was a GOP mayor & Rudy Giuliani ally, whose police stopped innocent black men so often his tactics were ruled unconstitutional. So how did he possibly get key Democratic endorsements in NYC? Heres one way:
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But come on, its not like he can do that in *this* campaign. Sure hes compiling a ton of random endorsements nationwide despite merely being a former mayor. But thats because they loved his soda ban. Or his speaking style. Or...
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In 2018, Mike spent $110 million to boost 24 candidates now in Congress. Turns out, giving people $2 million can be the start of a beautiful friendship. Then there are mayors: Want a grant from Bloomberg for new programs in your city...?
You may also see community groups back Mike's candidacy. As mayor, non-profits supported him when he reversed a voter referendum on term limits & made a backroom deal to help himself get a 3rd term. Howd that happen, you ask? He applied himself.
Link: Charity backing Bloomberg 3rd term got millions.
You may also see fewer critics bash Mike's candidacy than youd expect. After changing parties from GOP to Independent in 2007 as mayor, the local GOP rarely attacked anything he did. How'd he pull that off? Ill give you a million guesses...
Link: Bloomberg gives record million dollars to state senate GOP
It goes on. Read the whole thread.
Just because this man is not Trump does not mean he is better than Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mercuryblues
(14,537 posts)but If he is the candidate, I will vote for him before 3rd party or trump.
This is how low we have sunk as a nation. I would vote for a dead rabbit before I would vote for trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem2
(8,168 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)As long as we keep going to a knife fight with a beanbag we will stand by and watch Trump and his minions transform this country. There is a good chance that we will lose the House if we don't pick the right candidate
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I was posting the words knowing there's a certain irony to the holier than thou words of those who seek to shiv Bloomy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,441 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cherryinpa
(301 posts)Bloomberg has made a mess of the primary.
Resources and support that should have been aligning and unifying behind Biden, Klobuchar or Warren is split and fragmented.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)You said:
"Resources and support that should have been aligning and unifying behind Biden, Klobuchar or Warren is (are) split and fragmented".
So without Bloomberg, resources and support would have united?
How?
For which candidate?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)The candidates who jumped into the already crowded field, after we had a well established field of wide variation have been nothing but counterproductive.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Now we're stuck with it until November.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sympthsical
(9,111 posts)Money has always influenced politics, but only to a certain degree. You could donate to campaigns to curry favor with a politician, and that has been accepted (at least in the circles of power - common folks arent super fond of it).
But if we turn our democracy into an outright, overt bidding war between the ultra rich, were surrendering something vital to our institutions survival. The social and political cohesion - already deeply frayed - required to make our system work will unravel into a threadbare, alienating system that will cause deep economic and social unrest.
The whole point of the Democratic Party is that were not Republicans. If we let a billionaire buy our nomination, not only are we throwing away our principles, we will shatter the party. People will feel pushed even farther out of the system. They will feel even more excluded. A democracy requires the opposite. It requires participation.
I understand the urgent expedience people feel under the threat of Trump - I share it. But this is dangerous. Once you use the dark side to fight the dark side, you are corrupted by it. And the path back into the light is neither an easy nor certain one.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
delisen
(6,044 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)He is a Democrat, BTW.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
calguy
(5,326 posts)Bernie can't say that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)Bloomberg has ran as, voted for and contributed to Republicans.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calguy
(5,326 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,343 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Kaleva
(36,343 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calguy
(5,326 posts)You can probably find a better home at some pure socialist website.
Since you just "joined" today and this is your first post, I am very suspicious that you fit the model of a Republican or russian troll.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem2
(8,168 posts)I'm not unhappy that the post was removed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calguy
(5,326 posts)Only one post on an account created today. Checks a couple boxes right there.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
radius777
(3,635 posts)where I don't think most of this field can do so, especially not Bernie who would get crushed and bring down the House and Senate with him, as most of the reason we took back the house were seats in moderate districts.
Bloomberg would win over the moderates and independents and soccer moms, as he has a blend of positions that are appealing to those groups.
He's a better politician than many realize, having been the longtime mayor of NYC, a place with a diverse population of 8 million people - which is more than I can say for most of the remaining candidates who mostly interact with rural white people.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Not giving ANY credibility to any of this bullshit being drudged up from the Russian backed Bernie propaganda machine that has been getting used to attack Biden, O'Rourke, Harris, and even his longtime agenda ally Elizabeth warren.
I support the candidate that's going directly for Trump. Not using his campaign money, campaign staff, and supporter surrogates to attack fellows in the Democratic party while only paying an occasional minor jab at Trump himself.
No thanks, and I don't give a shit whatever his propaganda machine comes up with.
Bloomberg 2020.. the one that knows he's running against Trump and not the Democratic Party.
OR
ANY of our Democratic Party candidates BUT BS 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
calguy
(5,326 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)post by post. I see one come from his campaign in my email, and it's posted here within minutes.
is EXTREMELY similar to the way Tramp's propaganda machine works. Could be they're both being backed by the same Russian propaganda machine yet again?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
calguy
(5,326 posts)They want him to win the nomination in the worst wat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MH1
(17,600 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)He hasn't made a single attack on any of his primary opponents.
That alone makes him the top of the field, IMO.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Exact reason why I support him. He's targeting the actual enemy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)Heck with it. It's time to go with Mike and stay there.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)The more you attack the guy who isn't attacking any Democrats, the more you push me to his side in the primary!
He hasn't attacked ANY of the other Democratic candidates, so anybody who attacks him has just made themselves null and void in the primaries as far as I'm concerned.
The rest of the field could take an lesson from him. He is 100% about attacking Trump and is winning me over because of that, ESPECIALLY with all the petty attacks from his primary opponents.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calguy
(5,326 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)Changed my preference.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calguy
(5,326 posts),so I still have time to see what Joe in the next two states. Joe is hands down the best man qualified repair and restore the damage trump has caused. But.......if he fails to catch fire with voters.....this ain't no time for underperformers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rzemanfl
(29,568 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PETRUS
(3,678 posts)Some of those states made a critical difference in 2016's outcome.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)for response,
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)I'm not saying he has never stuck his foot in his mouth in the past forty years, but all of our candidates especially stop and frisk Mike have done that. Joe Biden is the real deal. I'm supporting Bernie but I would gladly vote for Joe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)Joe doesnt make it, I will join the revolution!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)If Bloomberg gets the nomination and we see some campaign sinking October surprise we will know too late that we have been played.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)any other forces. We will have no moral authority, no credibility for a very long time. He is a one man constitutional rights shredder. The FBI had to halt his extensive and widespread anti-Muslim operation. Being on the right side of a few issues and throwing money around gives him leverage with liberals while he also supports Republican causes and Republicans.
Our main argument against Trumpthat he is a racist and does not uphold constitutional rights is dead if we nominate Bloomberg. He is a liar too.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)We can do much better than another billionaire who represents the moneyed interests in this country and we can still win in November.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden