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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:54 AM Feb 2020

'BernieBros' is a divisive term and shouldn't be used by Democrats who claim they want unity.

EDIT: You know what, this doesn't even need an explanation. Title is self explanatory.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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'BernieBros' is a divisive term and shouldn't be used by Democrats who claim they want unity. (Original Post) HerbChestnut Feb 2020 OP
Not trying to be snarky. rownesheck Feb 2020 #1
Nope, it's been a demeaning mischaracterization from the start. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #5
Thank you for the link. n/t Laelth Feb 2020 #31
That wiki article reads like a BS campaign flyer. lapucelle Feb 2020 #50
Since you seem to appreciate empiricism BlueWI Feb 2020 #117
My goodness! You certainly read a lot into an observation about a wiki page. lapucelle Feb 2020 #134
Your post mentioned confirmation bias BlueWI Feb 2020 #137
Those are not reasonable inferences based on someone having asked a question lapucelle Feb 2020 #141
That was always the impression I got PatSeg Feb 2020 #20
That is a misconception. It was applied, not self-applied. nt ramen Feb 2020 #86
Would such derisive name-calling be tolerated toward the supporters of any other candidate here? CrawlingChaos Feb 2020 #2
"Hillbots" got used quite a bit in 2016 primary season, there seem to be names for everyone. Agschmid Feb 2020 #55
And anyone who doesn't worship Bernie has been called a Corporate Shill about a hundred times Clash City Rocker Feb 2020 #60
Hillary was also being called a "Goldman Girl", but that didn't extend to her supporters. CaptYossarian Feb 2020 #74
Wasn't it GoldWATER? Beartracks Feb 2020 #82
That was in 2008, when Obama "stole" the nomination Warpy Feb 2020 #113
Yeah I don't use either term. Agschmid Feb 2020 #132
No,but... JackSabbath Feb 2020 #104
What about Turner, Gray, and Sirota, are they part of that percentage of which you speak? George II Feb 2020 #3
They are Russian Hackers trying to sew discord - again - in our elections Hestia Feb 2020 #157
Most of his supporters are indeed very good people. However, the ones who are not, are truly vile. LonePirate Feb 2020 #4
Ditto! berksdem Feb 2020 #6
Yes. I see very little if any different between MontanaMama Feb 2020 #8
There is a reason for that BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #32
I don't see Sanders' supporters being unique in that regard. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #14
I don't see the zealotry in any other candidate's supporters gollygee Feb 2020 #15
Me either PatSeg Feb 2020 #23
I see plenty. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #36
Probably because they don't have the high percentage of support from young people. Doremus Feb 2020 #63
They all have supporters gollygee Feb 2020 #71
There's some of that, I think. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #84
Exactly. That's what's so disturbing. Chemisse Feb 2020 #151
I keep hearing this but to take one example dsc Feb 2020 #44
I like Warren and Bernie I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2020 #56
I'm not sure it matters. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #81
well certainly Warren has some supporters dsc Feb 2020 #83
I just gave one possible explanation. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #89
you don't give your candidate enough credit dsc Feb 2020 #90
Warren and Sanders are in competition for the same base. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #107
"If the roles were reversed, the trolls would be in Warren's camp." stopdiggin Feb 2020 #124
Sure we do: 2008. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #133
Nor encourage the discontent, anger, blame for five years. krissey Feb 2020 #109
Yeah, and that goes for supporters of any candidate. Or really, any group of people. DanTex Feb 2020 #53
Wait, you mean we don't have any folks like that in our party aside from Sanders supporters? KPN Feb 2020 #64
I doubt that most of the people doing this are actually in our party Clash City Rocker Feb 2020 #138
This is true of all candidates, unfortunately. ramen Feb 2020 #88
But his supporters have a coordinated volume and vitriol that dwarf or drown out that from others. LonePirate Feb 2020 #95
Aw. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #7
That's BS dalton99a Feb 2020 #11
Thank you! Lulu KC Feb 2020 #34
... MontanaMama Feb 2020 #12
I have a handful of favorite posters Codeine Feb 2020 #45
LOL Gothmog Feb 2020 #61
That's just BS, NurseJackie. MineralMan Feb 2020 #80
Can we not agree that leaving name-calling to the playground and current white house occupant ramen Feb 2020 #91
The zealotry borders on religion dalton99a Feb 2020 #9
Did those specific people in the pic do anything? davs797 Feb 2020 #37
What is Blake Shelton doing with a portrait of Bernie? n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #65
Some go the extra step and get ink... progressoid Feb 2020 #93
Looks like a diverse and engaged group of young people BlueWI Feb 2020 #120
Sanders supporters: Don't say this about Sanders or supporters because it's divisive gollygee Feb 2020 #10
What would be an acceptable alternative to describe beastie boy Feb 2020 #13
You mean Bernie supporters who feel the establishment Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #29
yes, the group of bernie supports who fall for conspiracy theories Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #57
"Establishment" is a divisive term and shouldn't' be used by Democrats who claim they want unity. lapucelle Feb 2020 #87
Establishment? You mean people who've been in government for decades? we can do it Feb 2020 #92
Thank You, I am Not Takng It! McKim Feb 2020 #125
No, I don't mean anything of the sort. beastie boy Feb 2020 #135
Agreed cherryinpa Feb 2020 #16
Everyone has an opinion...I think 'establishment' and' thirdway' shouldn't bet used by Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #17
+1. You give someone room and board and all they want to do is burn your place down dalton99a Feb 2020 #35
Third Way is the name of a think tank. They picked it. What else should people call that think tank? DanTex Feb 2020 #119
I am getting whiplash here on DU. I just read a post about how BS people are calling for Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #18
I just read another Bro talking about taking down the Democratic Party, right before this Op. krissey Feb 2020 #111
Personally, I think this "division v. unity" schtick is a horseshit canard people trot out... Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #19
Hold up... Jirel Feb 2020 #21
Good points Prue Feb 2020 #59
How about Sanders supporters calling Warren a snake and using snake emojis in their posts about her? highplainsdem Feb 2020 #22
Kind of makes "BernieBros" PatSeg Feb 2020 #38
Would they be allowed to do that on this forum? CrawlingChaos Feb 2020 #39
It's a term for his internet trolls. RandySF Feb 2020 #24
What's the proper term to use for Sirota and Nina and Briahna Joy Gray? NurseJackie Feb 2020 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Laelth Feb 2020 #25
You know what ELSE is "divisive"... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #26
+1000 NT Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #28
Bingo!!! PatSeg Feb 2020 #40
Cognitive dissonance makes this post invisible to some. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #48
Had to be said. we can do it Feb 2020 #94
And that is just a start. krissey Feb 2020 #112
"BernieBros" are a very specific subset Codeine Feb 2020 #27
This is true. Someone who punches at "Bernie Bro's" wasn't aiming at me in BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #43
Can we call them the Boo Bros? For booing Secretary Clinton at the DNC? malchickiwick Feb 2020 #30
And what about the Democratic Convention in 2016? That still rankles. Clinton's opposition was a deurbano Feb 2020 #99
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #33
Don't try to shame me into murielm99 Feb 2020 #42
Just this. Codeine Feb 2020 #46
Yes, ridiculous. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #54
+1 MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #49
.... LexVegas Feb 2020 #62
+100. nt dware Feb 2020 #123
Cool story, bro. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #47
I have seen the actions of sanders supporters up close and I do not care what we call them Gothmog Feb 2020 #51
That last fellow gives new meaning to the phrase "No Filters", eh? NurseJackie Feb 2020 #66
What are we to call the folks that do this garbage, if we can't call them Bernie Bros? BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2020 #79
I care when any Democrat employs sexist language that presumes it's only men that count Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #130
What sexist language did I use??? Gothmog Feb 2020 #144
You wrote "I don't care what we call them" and I wrote that I do, and why Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #147
I saw too much of sanders supporters at the national convention Gothmog Feb 2020 #149
I'm a Sanders supporter and I am generally fairly nice Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #150
These sanders supporters were vetted delegates who represented his campaign Gothmog Feb 2020 #152
Wow. Very illuminating. n/t Chemisse Feb 2020 #154
The righteous oppression of sacred cows and their flock are so vainglorious. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #52
No kidding. And folks here belly-ache about "establishment" and "corporate". Too funny really. KPN Feb 2020 #58
For me, BernieBros Turbineguy Feb 2020 #67
Those who don't support Sanders should coalesce around one candidate LarryNM Feb 2020 #68
I agree, the name calling is unproductive regardless of which candidate is attacked. 33taw Feb 2020 #69
It is amazing to me awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #70
It is not the way Democrats behave, for sure. krissey Feb 2020 #114
This exchange kind of says it best CalFione Feb 2020 #72
yeah, its tiring to rehash the last election, especially when that term was invented by yaesu Feb 2020 #73
Especially since young women make up more of Sanders base than men Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #75
Too bad greenjar_01 Feb 2020 #76
Whoever they were, whatever you call them, apcalc Feb 2020 #77
Did anyone ever consider tiredtoo Feb 2020 #78
yeah. yeah. and we could pass out MAGAt hats too! (nt) stopdiggin Feb 2020 #127
check it out. tiredtoo Feb 2020 #129
Some angry, devisive, aggressive Bernie supporters are OregonBlue Feb 2020 #85
I will stop calling Berniebros Berniebros once Berniebros stop behaving like Berniebros: DetlefK Feb 2020 #96
but they started it! ibegurpard Feb 2020 #97
Self described Bernie Bro irisblue Feb 2020 #98
BEING hypersensitive about language and perceiving slights where none exist is divisive and Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2020 #100
Agreed. But you zentrum Feb 2020 #101
Maybe so, but there are Sanders supporters who are rude and disruptive The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #102
Not unlike those who disparage "establishment Democrats". Incidently, I don't use that term toward still_one Feb 2020 #103
It isn't a one way street here. We see the crap all over the place from Sanders supporters, then krissey Feb 2020 #105
How about "SandersSiblings"? LudwigPastorius Feb 2020 #106
At least it's not gender specific. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #108
I agree...it also minimizes Sanders' female supporters... KSNY Feb 2020 #110
Okay, Bernie surrogates then.. and I have met them up close and personal Peacetrain Feb 2020 #115
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #116
Wow. Worse than people who support Trump. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #118
That's been my personal experience hurple Feb 2020 #121
No. dware Feb 2020 #122
I've been calling them "Bernistas", which may slow down the sexism complaints, but... TreasonousBastard Feb 2020 #126
not nearly as divisive evertonfc Feb 2020 #128
Or what? What is gonna happen? boston bean Feb 2020 #131
It is not helpful to use mvd Feb 2020 #136
I bet if the terms "Biden Bros" or "Bloomberg Bros" were used Gore1FL Feb 2020 #139
Pretty much nailed it. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #140
Without question. Good point. jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #148
I seem to remember a rule from back in 2004 Anaxamander Feb 2020 #142
I do too CrawlingChaos Feb 2020 #146
Yet I remember seeing Puma on a daily basis in 2008. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #153
LOL...Bernie is a divisive term and shouldn't be used by Democrats who claim they want unity. pecosbob Feb 2020 #143
I always call them Bernie's supporters Progressive dog Feb 2020 #145
I've noticed the term frequently on Twitter, but only in defensive posts bluedye33139 Feb 2020 #155
I'm not much of a name caller, Skid Rogue Feb 2020 #156
 

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
1. Not trying to be snarky.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:57 AM
Feb 2020

But I thought that's the name they gave themselves in 2016. That's why I call them that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
5. Nope, it's been a demeaning mischaracterization from the start.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:00 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
31. Thank you for the link. n/t
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:21 PM
Feb 2020

-Laelth

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lapucelle

(18,268 posts)
50. That wiki article reads like a BS campaign flyer.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:52 PM
Feb 2020

Is this what people mean when they talk about bias confirmation?

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BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
117. Since you seem to appreciate empiricism
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:40 PM
Feb 2020

link us to empirical evidence of who Bernie Bros are, demographically, and how many exist.

I'm assuming they're men, since they're Bros, and they're white, since all Bernie's supporters are white according to Bernie's opponents, and they're middle or upper class, since they're entitled, as some tend to say.

As soon as enough evidence is posted from actual data, or at least a sociologist or political scientist is quoted who applied the term Bernie Bro to legitimate research, then this subject will be at least worth discussing.

Till then, the reasoned response is to call out the Bernie Bro label for the pot-stirring and reductive moniker that it is, especially when it encourages derision and dismissal of Sanders' current support among majority of Latino and young Democratic voters, a significant number of black voters, and others whose primary preferences should be respected and debated fairly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

lapucelle

(18,268 posts)
134. My goodness! You certainly read a lot into an observation about a wiki page.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 04:46 PM
Feb 2020

Any wiki page that relies so much on analysis by partisans Glenn and Senator Nina is likely to raise a few eyebrows.

As for demands for evidence in support of the positions you feel entitled to assign to me, don’t tell me what to say.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
137. Your post mentioned confirmation bias
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:19 PM
Feb 2020

which suggests that empirical evidence exists to confirm that Bernie Bros are a real and measurable phenomenon.

Of course, we both know that this label is a stereotype, and everyone who values critical thinking should call this out, whether they agree with the reliability of select Sanders surrogates or not.

It's really that simple.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

lapucelle

(18,268 posts)
141. Those are not reasonable inferences based on someone having asked a question
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 07:51 PM
Feb 2020

about bias confirmation.

Is this what people mean when they talk about bias confirmation?


It is simply a question asking whether the wiki page is an objective source of information.

Many people would never feel entitled to the degree that they demand others to furnish proof based on idiosyncratic speculation about the subtext of an obvious question.
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PatSeg

(47,496 posts)
20. That was always the impression I got
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:15 PM
Feb 2020

I never referred to them as BernieBros though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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ramen

(790 posts)
86. That is a misconception. It was applied, not self-applied. nt
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:58 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
2. Would such derisive name-calling be tolerated toward the supporters of any other candidate here?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:58 AM
Feb 2020

I can't imagine that it would.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
55. "Hillbots" got used quite a bit in 2016 primary season, there seem to be names for everyone.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:00 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Clash City Rocker

(3,396 posts)
60. And anyone who doesn't worship Bernie has been called a Corporate Shill about a hundred times
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:06 PM
Feb 2020
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CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
74. Hillary was also being called a "Goldman Girl", but that didn't extend to her supporters.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:41 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
82. Wasn't it GoldWATER?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:56 PM
Feb 2020

Or was "Goldman" a play on Goldwater in an attempt to emphasize her supposed corporate leanings?

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If I were to vote in a presidential
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Warpy

(111,270 posts)
113. That was in 2008, when Obama "stole" the nomination
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:35 PM
Feb 2020

I actually know a couple of Hillary Clinton cultists who were so outraged by Obama that they changed their registration to Republican.

I've seen nitwits like this every single election year. "Sore Loser doesn't seem strong enough to cover the passions of thwarted personality cultists. However, slurs like "Hillbot" and Berniebro" and other pejoratives just play into the hands of that other party, you know, the one the Russians love.

Just knock it off, already.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
132. Yeah I don't use either term.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:55 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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JackSabbath

(153 posts)
104. No,but...
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:24 PM
Feb 2020

...all the other candidates are Democrats🤘

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George II

(67,782 posts)
3. What about Turner, Gray, and Sirota, are they part of that percentage of which you speak?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:58 AM
Feb 2020
Bernie has a ton of youth support. Young people tend to use the internet. Some people on the internet suck (regardless of age). Therefore, just by the numbers, it's easy to figure out Bernie has more support on the internet than other candidates and a percentage of them are going to be idiots. Does that mean we can generalize his supporters and use a dehumanizing term to describe them? No. That's what Republicans do. We are supposed to be better than that. Don't drop to their level.


By the way, NO one is generalizing his supporters, they're specifically talking about the nasty, vile, threatening supporters among them.
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LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
4. Most of his supporters are indeed very good people. However, the ones who are not, are truly vile.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:58 AM
Feb 2020

The worst of them are truly no different than the deplorables - sexist, homophobic, intolerant, rage-filled and contemptible.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
8. Yes. I see very little if any different between
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:04 PM
Feb 2020

a Bernie Bro and a MAGAt.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
32. There is a reason for that
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:21 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
14. I don't see Sanders' supporters being unique in that regard.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:07 PM
Feb 2020

A sampling of any candidates' supporters would probably be similar.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
15. I don't see the zealotry in any other candidate's supporters
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:10 PM
Feb 2020

that I see in his.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,496 posts)
23. Me either
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:17 PM
Feb 2020

Not even close. I find it rather unsettling.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
63. Probably because they don't have the high percentage of support from young people.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:07 PM
Feb 2020

Can't have 'berniebros' if you don't have any.

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gollygee

(22,336 posts)
71. They all have supporters
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:22 PM
Feb 2020

Do you think they're zealots because they're young? Like Bernie's supporters are younger and therefore they act like this?

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Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
84. There's some of that, I think.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:58 PM
Feb 2020

I'd argue young people are more likely to dox or harass people online, if only because they're the ones most familiar with the process.

That doesn't mean a significant number of Sanders' young supporters would do those sorts of things, either.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
151. Exactly. That's what's so disturbing.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 09:40 AM
Feb 2020

I have friends who have maintained that level of intense loyalty to Bernie since 2016. And it's aggressive. That's zealotry.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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dsc

(52,162 posts)
44. I keep hearing this but to take one example
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:38 PM
Feb 2020

Warren was equally the target of the Culinary Union's flier. Yet zero of her online supporters doxed them, zero of her supporters threatened them why is that?

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I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
56. I like Warren and Bernie
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:00 PM
Feb 2020

I agree Warren is being shut out and not given the airtime she needs.

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Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
81. I'm not sure it matters.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:55 PM
Feb 2020

How many Bernie supporters are there? How many of them doxxed people? If the value isn't significant, then it's a simple matter of population.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

dsc

(52,162 posts)
83. well certainly Warren has some supporters
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:56 PM
Feb 2020

why didn't even one of them behave this way? Again, she was just as much a target of that flier as he was but zero of them behaved this way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
89. I just gave one possible explanation.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:00 PM
Feb 2020

If we're talking about statistically insignificant sampling of people, then the reason you aren't seeing any in the Warren camp is because her base is much smaller than Sanders'. If Warren was the more popular candidate, the situation would likely be reversed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

dsc

(52,162 posts)
90. you don't give your candidate enough credit
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:01 PM
Feb 2020

the reason is she doesn't attract the type of people who behave this way on line.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
107. Warren and Sanders are in competition for the same base.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:26 PM
Feb 2020

Sanders is winning that competition. If the roles were reversed, the trolls would be in Warren's camp.

Seeing as Bernie has millions of supporters, though, I'm still stuck on whether or not these clowns are statistically significant. My guess is no.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
124. "If the roles were reversed, the trolls would be in Warren's camp."
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:52 PM
Feb 2020

Nope. This is what we disagree on. We don't see any evidence of these kinds of people showing up in the other campaigns. Not now. Not in the past. And it has nothing to do with their ranking or level of support. It seems to have something to do with Mr. Sanders, and his tribe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
133. Sure we do: 2008.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 04:07 PM
Feb 2020

The Clinton camp in particular.

I would argue that primary was may more vicious than 2016 or 2020.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
109. Nor encourage the discontent, anger, blame for five years.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:28 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
53. Yeah, and that goes for supporters of any candidate. Or really, any group of people.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:57 PM
Feb 2020

The "Bernie Bros" myth is that Bernie, and only Bernie, has people supporting him that say rude things on twitter. It takes about two minutes on twitter to realize that this is totally false.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

KPN

(15,646 posts)
64. Wait, you mean we don't have any folks like that in our party aside from Sanders supporters?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:08 PM
Feb 2020

Let's be realistic and objective here. Talk about vile. Geesh!

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Clash City Rocker

(3,396 posts)
138. I doubt that most of the people doing this are actually in our party
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:29 PM
Feb 2020

That branch of Bernie’s base seems to be made up of people who are mostly anarchists. I doubt that many of them are registered Democrats, unless they registered just to vote for Bernie.

I don’t blame Bernie for having such supporters, but I wish he’d say more to discourage them from acting that way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ramen

(790 posts)
88. This is true of all candidates, unfortunately.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:59 PM
Feb 2020

There is unquestionably some ugly behavior from Sanders supporters. But it is not specific to his supporters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
95. But his supporters have a coordinated volume and vitriol that dwarf or drown out that from others.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:07 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. Aw.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:03 PM
Feb 2020


Next thing someone will be telling us that we shouldn't use his initials.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Lulu KC

(2,566 posts)
34. Thank you!
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:24 PM
Feb 2020


We need more laughter.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
45. I have a handful of favorite posters
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:45 PM
Feb 2020

and that kinda shit right there is why you’re one of them!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
80. That's just BS, NurseJackie.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:55 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ramen

(790 posts)
91. Can we not agree that leaving name-calling to the playground and current white house occupant
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:01 PM
Feb 2020

would be a good idea? The tactic is no different than people throwing around 'Shillary' and 'Hillbot' four years ago. It's self-defeating and lowers discourse, at best. I propose we let Trump call names and let's be better than that here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
9. The zealotry borders on religion
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:04 PM
Feb 2020

(Jim Young/Reuters)
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

davs797

(22 posts)
37. Did those specific people in the pic do anything?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:25 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
65. What is Blake Shelton doing with a portrait of Bernie? n/t
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:08 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
93. Some go the extra step and get ink...
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:03 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
120. Looks like a diverse and engaged group of young people
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:44 PM
Feb 2020

many of whom wearing glasses.

Is there something supposed to be scary about this picture? The more we see of this, the better off Democrats are.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
10. Sanders supporters: Don't say this about Sanders or supporters because it's divisive
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:04 PM
Feb 2020

Also Sanders supporters: All sorts of divisive stuff about everyone else

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beastie boy

(9,370 posts)
13. What would be an acceptable alternative to describe
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:05 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie supporters who are divisive towards the Democratic party?

I don't mind any other term that defines this particular group of people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Quixote1818

(28,944 posts)
29. You mean Bernie supporters who feel the establishment
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:20 PM
Feb 2020

Tries to undermine his campaign like Hillary's attacks saying no one likes him? What do you expect them to do? Just take it? It's a grassroots movement that the establishment freaked out about.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
57. yes, the group of bernie supports who fall for conspiracy theories
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:00 PM
Feb 2020

and believe anything BS claims, evidence to the contrary

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

lapucelle

(18,268 posts)
87. "Establishment" is a divisive term and shouldn't' be used by Democrats who claim they want unity.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:59 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

we can do it

(12,189 posts)
92. Establishment? You mean people who've been in government for decades?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:01 PM
Feb 2020

Or actual Democrats who are always Democrats not just when its politically expedient?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

McKim

(2,412 posts)
125. Thank You, I am Not Takng It!
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:03 PM
Feb 2020

Thank you, as a Warren and Sanders supporter I am not taking it. The ideas that Sanders supporters are “Bros., are mean full of vitriol, vicious, Brown Shirts and etc. has been pushed through the echo chamber for quite a while now and it is tiresome. Even my neighbor who is a reasonable progressive person said yesterday that Sanders supporters are mean. She didn’t realize she was talking to one!

As a 74 year old retired teacher and human rights and peace activist I truly resent being attacked in all the media. It is a cheap shot. They can’t attack Sanders ideas so they attack his followers.

I ignore it and continue to send a check every month to Sanders and Warrens campaigns. I support Medicare for All and a family member died for lack of it!

I am prepared to vote Blue no Matter Who but how much bashing can a decent person take?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beastie boy

(9,370 posts)
135. No, I don't mean anything of the sort.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 04:55 PM
Feb 2020

I just wanted to know what the politically correct term du jour for Bernie Bros is. It is a clearly defined group of people who don't like being called Bernie Bros. I want to know what they prefer to be called. The degree of their hypocrisy will not change no matter what I call them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cherryinpa

(301 posts)
16. Agreed
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:11 PM
Feb 2020

As a Biden supporter I use this term my self and I've increasingly not liked it.

At the end of the day these so called "Bernie Bros" are all part of the larger Democratic family.

What people arn't noticing is that Biden has been lacklustre but he has never attacked personally the Bernie supporter, he understands their perspective. It was a real touching moment when Biden + Bernie hugged at the last debate that shows you how people can eventually come together as family.

We don't go around calling family members derogatory names.

Eventually there will be healing (whichver candiate wins) and people will coalesce around.

In the spirit of working together, I will stop using this phrase.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,583 posts)
17. Everyone has an opinion...I think 'establishment' and' thirdway' shouldn't bet used by
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:12 PM
Feb 2020

Democrats who claim they want unity. And I don't think this needs an explanation either. You can't have your cake and eat it too...engage in this sort of thing and then cry foul when it comes back at you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
35. +1. You give someone room and board and all they want to do is burn your place down
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:25 PM
Feb 2020

WTF


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
119. Third Way is the name of a think tank. They picked it. What else should people call that think tank?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:43 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Vivienne235729

(3,384 posts)
18. I am getting whiplash here on DU. I just read a post about how BS people are calling for
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:13 PM
Feb 2020

Destroying Bloomber staffer's lives and then not call BS supporters Bernie Bro's bc it hurts your feelings?!?!! That it is divisive? Is that right?!?!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
111. I just read another Bro talking about taking down the Democratic Party, right before this Op.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:30 PM
Feb 2020

But hey, all campaigns have this problem, don't ya know.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
19. Personally, I think this "division v. unity" schtick is a horseshit canard people trot out...
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:13 PM
Feb 2020

...to silence people they don't like.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Jirel

(2,018 posts)
21. Hold up...
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:17 PM
Feb 2020

I love Bernie. I’m tired of hearing it overused too. But there is a small subset of people for whom this term works. For example, I just read an opinion post from one last week who was bemoaning that he’ll never vote again, ever, if Bernie gets “cheated” by the DNC.

I don’t believe the Bros are really in this to save the country. I suspect that most of that tiny contingent are little more than hipster trolls who are perfectly fine with Trump. I barely consider them Bernie supporters, because Bernie would be facepalming at their whining and foot stomping. I know a few of these people. If you press them, they’ll start insisting that Trump is not a problem, really kind of an ok dude, and the threat is the “deep state.”

So, let’s stop using this term for people, Democrats, Socialists, Greens, and Independents who truly back Bernie. The vast, vast majority of Bernie’s supporters are amazing, passionate people who, if he doesn’t get the nom, will work tirelessly to defeat Trump and get some good done in DC. Just like Bernie did for Hillary in 2016. IT IS NOT A SYNONYM FOR “BERNIE SUPPORTER.”

As for those fake progressives with a secret hard on for Trump, who use Bernie as a vehicle for their propaganda, carry on. It’s a good term to differentiate the wolves in the fold whose allegiance to Bernie is a cover for conspiracy theories and shenanigans.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Prue

(139 posts)
59. Good points
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:05 PM
Feb 2020

You make some very good points. Based on the disinformation that went on in 2015/2016 I would not be surprised if the term BernieBros hasn't been hijacked and intentional framed as a bad thing. How much do we trust that those who claim they are BB's are really Bernie supporters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,999 posts)
22. How about Sanders supporters calling Warren a snake and using snake emojis in their posts about her?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:17 PM
Feb 2020

How about Sanders supporters using the #MayorCheat hashtag to attack Buttigieg?

How about Sanders supporters adding the #bendtheknee hashtag to tweets demanding supporters of other candidates, and critics of Sanders, "fall into line" behind him?

How about Sanders supporters saying anyone working for Bloomberg should be blacklisted?

How about Sanders supporters threatening leaders of groups that don't back Sanders?

But you think describing any Bernie supporters as "Bernie Bros" is divisive?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,496 posts)
38. Kind of makes "BernieBros"
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:27 PM
Feb 2020

sound rather positive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
39. Would they be allowed to do that on this forum?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:28 PM
Feb 2020

Because I haven't seen it.

And yet the slur "Bernie Bro" is tolerated here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

RandySF

(58,896 posts)
24. It's a term for his internet trolls.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:17 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
41. What's the proper term to use for Sirota and Nina and Briahna Joy Gray?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:33 PM
Feb 2020

What's the proper term to use for Sirota and Nina and Briahna Joy Gray? They have said many nasty and divisive things... particularly with their smears and denigrating attacks on the Democratic party and against loyal stalwart Democrats.

Why so much concern over the feelings of some fringe malcontents who aren't likely to vote anyway... when we have high-profile people like the ones I just mentioned who are causing much more damage to the party with their divisive rhetoric. Things like that only cause resentment and distrust. It drives away new voters and first time voters if they're constantly being told how "worthless" the Democrats are or that there's "no difference between the parties" or that "Democrats can't be trusted" and that "the system is corrupt".

All these LIES cause so much more damage in the long run. It does nothing but create negativity. Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
26. You know what ELSE is "divisive"...
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:18 PM
Feb 2020

You know what ELSE is "divisive"...

It's divisive when someone falsely claims that Democrats are "ideologically bankrupt".

It's divisive when someone smears and denigrates Democrats by calling us "feeble".

It's divisive when someone accuses the Democratic party of being "corrupt" and an "absolute failure".

It doesn't promote unity when someone claims that the Democratic party is "the party of the one-percent" or that the Democratic party is "party of the elite".

It also does not promote unity or trust when someone says there's "no difference between Democrats and Republicans."

It's an outright lie for someone to claim that the Democratic party "doesn't care about climate change."

What good purpose does it serve for someone to say that that the Democrats "focus too much" on diversity and that the party isn't "particularly sympathetic" to the working class.

Whenever someone is worried about the feelings of a particular subset of voters, I often wonder why that same concern about "unity" isn't also being expressed when the ENTIRE PARTY is being smeared and denigrated?

Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,496 posts)
40. Bingo!!!
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:31 PM
Feb 2020

Spot on!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
48. Cognitive dissonance makes this post invisible to some.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:51 PM
Feb 2020

Shame, because it's spot on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
112. And that is just a start.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:32 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
27. "BernieBros" are a very specific subset
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:20 PM
Feb 2020

of his supporters; not every Sanders fan is a BernieBro, but I’ll call the ones who are exactly that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BusyBeingBest

(8,054 posts)
43. This is true. Someone who punches at "Bernie Bro's" wasn't aiming at me in
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:35 PM
Feb 2020

2016 when I supported him. That's an angry young male cohort who may in fact be outside agitators or Russian trolls. I didn't take offense unless someone suggested all Bernie voters were "bros".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
30. Can we call them the Boo Bros? For booing Secretary Clinton at the DNC?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:20 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie has a small kernel of supporters that live in the sewers of 4chan, et. al., and spew vile hatred every bit as well as the MAGAtrolls.

In my opinion, he needs to deliver that cadre a sharp talking to immediately.

For example, from here in NV, from the Nevada Independent:

Two top Culinary Union officials have faced threatening phone calls, emails and tweets and say their personal information was shared online after the release of a union scorecard that took particular aim at Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

Secretary-Treasurer Geoconda Arguello-Kline, for instance, has come under attack for her Nicaraguan heritage, and union spokeswoman Bethany Khan was accused of being paid off by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other Democratic establishment types. In tweets, the union and its leadership have been referred to as “bitches,” “whore,” “fucking scab” and “evil, entitled assholes.”

Full story:

https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/culinary-union-officials-face-profanity-laced-attacks-after-scorecard-says-sanders-would-end-their-health-care

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
99. And what about the Democratic Convention in 2016? That still rankles. Clinton's opposition was a
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:11 PM
Feb 2020

dangerous fascist-- a white nationalist, racist, misogynist (etc., etc.,), sexual assaulting, narcissistic, petty, vindictive, ignorant and evil conman. Yet a certain contingent thought their main enemy was the Democratic nominee, who also happened to be the first woman ever nominated by a major party. An historic moment in American history, and the Boo Bros (and their female counterparts) respond by putting all their energy (and venom) into tearing her down.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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murielm99

(30,745 posts)
42. Don't try to shame me into
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:34 PM
Feb 2020

using language and terms that you prefer.

I will call people Bernie Bros if I want to do that. I see divisiveness, all right. I see it here, IRL, and all over the internet. Who is doing the dividing? BernieBros.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
46. Just this.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:49 PM
Feb 2020

It’s ridiculous that the source of all the negativity in this cycle is complaining about negativity.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
54. Yes, ridiculous. n/t
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:57 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,293 posts)
51. I have seen the actions of sanders supporters up close and I do not care what we call them
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:55 PM
Feb 2020

Normally going to a national convention is a once in a life time experience. I have worked really hard inside the party on campaigns and voter protection issues for a very long time to earn this trip. Too bad that sanders and his vetted delegates ruined that experience and did their best to help trump. A candidate has absolute approval rights over their pledged delegates because these delegates can change their votes and these delegates represent the candidate and campaign. I helped vet Clinton delegates and I know that I was vetted. The Clinton campaign told us that we represent her and that our actions would reflect on her and her campaign.

In contrast, sanders sent one very weak text the Sunday night before the convention and then did little or nothing to control his delegates. It was nasty I was there when the sanders delegates booed Congressman John Lewis. I was warned about this stunt 30 minutes before it happened by the Clinton campaign whip. According to my whip, sanders was asked to stop this event and declined. That incident will be used against sanders by Russia to suppress the African American vote just as was done in 2016



Russia will just run material showing sanders delegates booing John Lewis, Elijah Cummings and others to suppress the vote of African American voters and I feel that this tactic would be very effective

I was at the Texas delegation breakfast when a group of sanders delegates marched in and demanded that we condemn Clinton and change our votes to sanders.



sanders spoke to the Texas delegation the next morning and his speech was again solely about himself. There was a mini-riot due to his delegates the prior morning and the only thing that sanders talked about was himself. sanders did nothing to deal with the fact that his delegates were out of control and did nothing to try to help Hillary Clinton win the general election.

Finally a group of sanders delegates yelled at my daughter and called her the c-Word because she would not try to get me to change my vote. Again sanders was asked to tell his delegates to behave during the convention and sanders refused
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
66. That last fellow gives new meaning to the phrase "No Filters", eh?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:10 PM
Feb 2020

So disrespectful. (And his friends just nod in agreement.)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
79. What are we to call the folks that do this garbage, if we can't call them Bernie Bros?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:54 PM
Feb 2020

They exist, and they intimidate with over the top anger when faced with their triggers (ie Hillary). I have one on my FB feed. Nice guy except for his Bernie Bro side. I do confront him when he is inappropriate and he backs down.

But yeah, I’ve never seen the same kind of outbursts from the supporters of other Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
130. I care when any Democrat employs sexist language that presumes it's only men that count
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:40 PM
Feb 2020

You can call out anyone you think warrants the ridicule whenever you want, as assholes, jerks, idiots, bullies, saboteurs, disrupters, hypocrites, or anything else you think fits. But all too often "Bernie Bros" is a term applied loosely to everyone who fervently supports Bernie Sanders, and at least as many females do that as males. That term literally makes the contributions of women, either positive or negative, invisible. And no one can even make a convincing case that the worst type of behavior that you are complaining about is engaged in exclusively by men. In my opinion Bernie Bro' was designed as a slur to intentionally insinuate that Bernie Sanders and those who support him are anti-women, and/or dismissive of women's real concerns. It is meant to imply that Bernie's campaign more so than any other is oppressively male oriented. It is using sexist language to make a sexist attack on Bernie Sanders and all who support him.

Condemn obnoxious behavior all you want but you don't have to employ sexist language to do so.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,293 posts)
144. What sexist language did I use???
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 08:43 PM
Feb 2020

I use the term sanders supporters and I pointed out facts about what happened at the National Convention

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
147. You wrote "I don't care what we call them" and I wrote that I do, and why
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:10 AM
Feb 2020

But you are correct that you yourself called out some Bernie supporters as Bernie supporters as opposed to using "Bernie Bros" and so I should have credited you with that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,293 posts)
149. I saw too much of sanders supporters at the national convention
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 01:43 AM
Feb 2020

They are not nice people Remember that these vetted delegates were official representatives of the sanders campaign>. The incidents describes on this board and in the Bloomberg ad are consistent with what I personally saw

Do you really think that booing Congressman JOHN Lewis and Rlijah Cummings reflect well in sanders or the sanders campaign?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
150. I'm a Sanders supporter and I am generally fairly nice
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 09:28 AM
Feb 2020

That of course is the other thing, some opponents of Sanders use a broad brush that tars all who support Sanders, but to answer your question directly, my answer is: No

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,293 posts)
152. These sanders supporters were vetted delegates who represented his campaign
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 09:43 AM
Feb 2020

Their conduct reflected on the sanders campaign.

As for booing JOHN Lewis and others Russia will use this planned stunt to suppress the vote of African American voters in the general election

If sanders is 6he nominee, trump wins45+ states

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
154. Wow. Very illuminating. n/t
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 09:46 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
52. The righteous oppression of sacred cows and their flock are so vainglorious.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:56 PM
Feb 2020

The response too is self-explanatory.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,646 posts)
58. No kidding. And folks here belly-ache about "establishment" and "corporate". Too funny really.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:02 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Turbineguy

(37,338 posts)
67. For me, BernieBros
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:10 PM
Feb 2020

will always be the people who kicked me off the Bernie Sanders forum last time around.

But maybe they changed and are less divisive now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LarryNM

(493 posts)
68. Those who don't support Sanders should coalesce around one candidate
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:12 PM
Feb 2020

or maybe two instead of using their energy to attack Sanders and his supporters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

33taw

(2,443 posts)
69. I agree, the name calling is unproductive regardless of which candidate is attacked.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:18 PM
Feb 2020

Of course, Trump is fair game.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
70. It is amazing to me
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:21 PM
Feb 2020

how much Bernie supporters use the victim card. Won't be long before they start calling themselves oppressed by the oligarchy or something out a communist insurgency manual.

I have never seen candidate's supporters be so divisive, aggressive, down right angry and intolerant until Bernie came along. It's mind blowing.

A lot of Bernie supporters are SELF APPOINTED Bernie bros. If they don't want anyone using that term, maybe they should stop using it themselves...on themselves.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
114. It is not the way Democrats behave, for sure.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:36 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

CalFione

(571 posts)
72. This exchange kind of says it best
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:27 PM
Feb 2020




And this is not abnormal behavior by a Bernie supporter online. This is pretty much standard.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
73. yeah, its tiring to rehash the last election, especially when that term was invented by
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:36 PM
Feb 2020

cambridge analytica & the russians.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
77. Whoever they were, whatever you call them,
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:48 PM
Feb 2020

The group was nasty and he did not discourage them.

Heretofore , can we call them “assholes”?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
78. Did anyone ever consider
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:50 PM
Feb 2020

We need this kind of enthusiasm to win the election? Just asking.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
127. yeah. yeah. and we could pass out MAGAt hats too! (nt)
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:10 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
85. Some angry, devisive, aggressive Bernie supporters are
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:58 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie Bros and I don't see why we should be afraid to call them out when they are creating division and chaos. On the other hand, most Bernie supporters are no different than any other DUers and should be treated with respect.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
96. I will stop calling Berniebros Berniebros once Berniebros stop behaving like Berniebros:
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:09 PM
Feb 2020

Someone tweeted a clip from CNBC how bad Warren would be for Wall Street profits. Berniebros responded that even though these TV-hosts talked about Warren, they really meant Sanders.

Someone tweeted about Jill Stein. Some guy with Bernie2020 in his tag responded how he loves watching liberals get triggered.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
97. but they started it!
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:11 PM
Feb 2020

That's where we're at...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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irisblue

(32,980 posts)
98. Self described Bernie Bro
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:11 PM
Feb 2020

Patrick🌹 (@Plindsey2323) Tweeted:
.@MSNBC - Bernie Bro, here... If you're going to use my tweet, the least you could do is unblur my face... 😂

#BernieBeatsTrump #NotMeUs https://t.co/Srv04E9XKl





Patrick🌹 (@Plindsey2323) Tweeted:
@BenjaminPDixon Why did Mikey decide to use my tweet, and can I get him to unblur my name and picture? 🤷‍♂️ https://t.co/c0cI32CuHw




I do not expect your wish to stop using Bernie Bro is going to take hold Herb
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Joe Biden
 

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
100. BEING hypersensitive about language and perceiving slights where none exist is divisive and
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:15 PM
Feb 2020

should not be done bythose who claim they want unity.

Since I know Bernie Bros who call themselves Bernie Bros - Im sorry but I see this as a huge NON-PROBLEM.

Why are you - heck, why am *I* spending any time whatsoever thinking about this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
101. Agreed. But you
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:18 PM
Feb 2020

.....are allowed to hurl any insult against Bernie.

Very disturbing.

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Undecided
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
102. Maybe so, but there are Sanders supporters who are rude and disruptive
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:20 PM
Feb 2020

both on-line and IRL, and I don't understand why the majority who are not like that don't make an effort to shut them up, instead of getting defensive and/or trying to claim they don't exist. The other campaigns don't seem to have this problem. If you don't want people pointing this fact out, whether or not they are called Bernie Bros, maybe Bernie himself needs to try to control them, and if he doesn't his less obnoxious supporters might want to do so. The fact is that this loud, nasty minority does not reflect well on the candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,217 posts)
103. Not unlike those who disparage "establishment Democrats". Incidently, I don't use that term toward
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:22 PM
Feb 2020

Sanders supporters


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krissey

(1,205 posts)
105. It isn't a one way street here. We see the crap all over the place from Sanders supporters, then
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:25 PM
Feb 2020

you tell us we need to be respectful for unity. When I see even a hint of Sanders cleaning up his own house, then I will listen to his preaching.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
106. How about "SandersSiblings"?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:26 PM
Feb 2020

Is that OK?




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Joe Biden
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
108. At least it's not gender specific.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:28 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

KSNY

(315 posts)
110. I agree...it also minimizes Sanders' female supporters...
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:30 PM
Feb 2020

of which there are many. Bloomberg should keep his ads aimed at Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
115. Okay, Bernie surrogates then.. and I have met them up close and personal
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:36 PM
Feb 2020

And if you do not want to hold Bernie Sanders responsible for their behaviors..then his Lieutenants that he hired are and they were then rehired.. so in the end he is responsible.

I have posted this before.. 2016 I was the precinct caption for Martin O'Malley.. At our caucus all candidates could have a representative give a speech (5 minutes) on their behalf before the second vote. The Bernie people started booing me at minute one and would not let me finish. They tried to wrestle supporters away before the first vote. Who ever gave them their marching orders, these were the rudest people I have ever met at a caucus. They just tried to intimidate everyone.


This year, they did not even bother to come in and try for second votes from the candidates who were not viable. Warrens people spoke to us, Buttigiegs people spoke to us and guess what they got a bunch of second votes.. Warren got my entire family..they (The Bernie captains)marched their people out of there before they even had the chance to caucus.

Sorry folks.. but we have just finished 3 years with an attitudinal bunch in DC who we are trying to vote out and I do not need it out of my own par

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
118. Wow. Worse than people who support Trump.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:41 PM
Feb 2020

I mean...wow.

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hurple

(1,306 posts)
121. That's been my personal experience
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:50 PM
Feb 2020

Very much yes.

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Undecided
 

dware

(12,393 posts)
122. No.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:50 PM
Feb 2020

Think I'll pass on this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
126. I've been calling them "Bernistas", which may slow down the sexism complaints, but...
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:08 PM
Feb 2020

what's going on now is nothing compared to past elections.

Not many people alive today who remember those days in Boston when you got your ballot and took it home to fill it out. Then you carried it in an outside pocket so it could be seen on the way to the poll. Different parties had different colored ballots and if you had the wrong color in some neighborhoods you would have to call in sick the next day. For many years in our young nation political supporters had to worry about mob violence.

Lies and bullshit about candidates? Not many people alive today have seen the "Daisy" ad LBJ only aired once, but even without the internet it became viral. (Betcha didn't know Stan Lee wrote the script.) I remember seeing it and damn near crapped my young pants.

And when you get right down to it, the divisiveness is from those threatening the Party, not from those objecting to the threats and nastiness.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
128. not nearly as divisive
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:18 PM
Feb 2020

As Democratic socialist

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
131. Or what? What is gonna happen?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:40 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mvd

(65,174 posts)
136. It is not helpful to use
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 05:00 PM
Feb 2020

I agree that there is a portion of Bernie supporters that is not always constructive, but that shouldn’t tarnish the candidate or most who support him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
139. I bet if the terms "Biden Bros" or "Bloomberg Bros" were used
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:39 PM
Feb 2020

The outrage would somehow be more real to some. It's not that hard to play nice and to leave the names to the schoolyard; I think that's your point.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
140. Pretty much nailed it.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:40 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
148. Without question. Good point.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:22 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Anaxamander

(570 posts)
142. I seem to remember a rule from back in 2004
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 08:00 PM
Feb 2020

where you could only call supporters of another candidate "______ supporters." Couldn't say Deaniacs, Shillarybots, etc. Seems logical to me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
146. I do too
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:07 PM
Feb 2020

Those kinds of slurs are only tolerated against one candidate here.

Doesn't matter though. As soon as you go out in the real world the myth of the "Bernie Bro" shatters.

That's why we are WINNING

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
153. Yet I remember seeing Puma on a daily basis in 2008.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 09:46 AM
Feb 2020


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
143. LOL...Bernie is a divisive term and shouldn't be used by Democrats who claim they want unity.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 08:19 PM
Feb 2020

fixed that...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Progressive dog

(6,904 posts)
145. I always call them Bernie's supporters
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:55 PM
Feb 2020

rather than putting the fanatical ones into a special category. Besides, some may actually not be male. I vote for Democratic candidates because I support the Democratic party, not because no one in it hurt my feelings.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
155. I've noticed the term frequently on Twitter, but only in defensive posts
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 09:48 AM
Feb 2020

Most people who hate Bernie Sanders refer to his supporters as Sanders supporters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
156. I'm not much of a name caller,
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 10:01 AM
Feb 2020

but this seems like a "you reap what you sow" kind of issues. If you adopted slyly degrading nicknames for other candidates and their supporters, or you stood by during 2016 while other's used similar language, then you have helped to create an atmosphere where this is now acceptable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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