Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forum'BernieBros' is a divisive term and shouldn't be used by Democrats who claim they want unity.
EDIT: You know what, this doesn't even need an explanation. Title is self explanatory.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
rownesheck
(2,343 posts)But I thought that's the name they gave themselves in 2016. That's why I call them that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)Is this what people mean when they talk about bias confirmation?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueWI
(1,736 posts)link us to empirical evidence of who Bernie Bros are, demographically, and how many exist.
I'm assuming they're men, since they're Bros, and they're white, since all Bernie's supporters are white according to Bernie's opponents, and they're middle or upper class, since they're entitled, as some tend to say.
As soon as enough evidence is posted from actual data, or at least a sociologist or political scientist is quoted who applied the term Bernie Bro to legitimate research, then this subject will be at least worth discussing.
Till then, the reasoned response is to call out the Bernie Bro label for the pot-stirring and reductive moniker that it is, especially when it encourages derision and dismissal of Sanders' current support among majority of Latino and young Democratic voters, a significant number of black voters, and others whose primary preferences should be respected and debated fairly.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)Any wiki page that relies so much on analysis by partisans Glenn and Senator Nina is likely to raise a few eyebrows.
As for demands for evidence in support of the positions you feel entitled to assign to me, dont tell me what to say.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueWI
(1,736 posts)which suggests that empirical evidence exists to confirm that Bernie Bros are a real and measurable phenomenon.
Of course, we both know that this label is a stereotype, and everyone who values critical thinking should call this out, whether they agree with the reliability of select Sanders surrogates or not.
It's really that simple.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)about bias confirmation.
It is simply a question asking whether the wiki page is an objective source of information.
Many people would never feel entitled to the degree that they demand others to furnish proof based on idiosyncratic speculation about the subtext of an obvious question.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,496 posts)I never referred to them as BernieBros though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ramen
(790 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)I can't imagine that it would.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Clash City Rocker
(3,396 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Beartracks
(12,816 posts)Or was "Goldman" a play on Goldwater in an attempt to emphasize her supposed corporate leanings?
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Warpy
(111,270 posts)I actually know a couple of Hillary Clinton cultists who were so outraged by Obama that they changed their registration to Republican.
I've seen nitwits like this every single election year. "Sore Loser doesn't seem strong enough to cover the passions of thwarted personality cultists. However, slurs like "Hillbot" and Berniebro" and other pejoratives just play into the hands of that other party, you know, the one the Russians love.
Just knock it off, already.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JackSabbath
(153 posts)...all the other candidates are Democrats🤘
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)By the way, NO one is generalizing his supporters, they're specifically talking about the nasty, vile, threatening supporters among them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hestia
(3,818 posts)using Bernie's name. Yes, there are real men for Bernie Sanders, but would you call yourself a BernieBro? I kinda sorta doubt it. But whatever floats your boat...
https://www.salon.com/2020/02/09/the-berniebro-myth-persists-because-pundits-dont-understand-how-the-internet-works/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-russian-effort-to-target-sanders-supporters--and-help-elect-trump/2019/04/11/741d7308-5576-11e9-8ef3-fbd41a2ce4d5_story.html
https://www.salon.com/2019/04/12/new-data-suggests-russians-targeted-bernie-sanders-voters-to-help-elect-trump/
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-central-to-russias-pro-trump-2016-strategy-study-2019-4
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/07/us/politics/russia-facebook-twitter-election.html
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)The worst of them are truly no different than the deplorables - sexist, homophobic, intolerant, rage-filled and contemptible.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)a Bernie Bro and a MAGAt.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Both groups support populists...
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/09/07/the-populists
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)A sampling of any candidates' supporters would probably be similar.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
gollygee
(22,336 posts)that I see in his.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,496 posts)Not even close. I find it rather unsettling.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Doremus
(7,261 posts)Can't have 'berniebros' if you don't have any.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Do you think they're zealots because they're young? Like Bernie's supporters are younger and therefore they act like this?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)I'd argue young people are more likely to dox or harass people online, if only because they're the ones most familiar with the process.
That doesn't mean a significant number of Sanders' young supporters would do those sorts of things, either.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)I have friends who have maintained that level of intense loyalty to Bernie since 2016. And it's aggressive. That's zealotry.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dsc
(52,162 posts)Warren was equally the target of the Culinary Union's flier. Yet zero of her online supporters doxed them, zero of her supporters threatened them why is that?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)I agree Warren is being shut out and not given the airtime she needs.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)How many Bernie supporters are there? How many of them doxxed people? If the value isn't significant, then it's a simple matter of population.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dsc
(52,162 posts)why didn't even one of them behave this way? Again, she was just as much a target of that flier as he was but zero of them behaved this way.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)If we're talking about statistically insignificant sampling of people, then the reason you aren't seeing any in the Warren camp is because her base is much smaller than Sanders'. If Warren was the more popular candidate, the situation would likely be reversed.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dsc
(52,162 posts)the reason is she doesn't attract the type of people who behave this way on line.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Sanders is winning that competition. If the roles were reversed, the trolls would be in Warren's camp.
Seeing as Bernie has millions of supporters, though, I'm still stuck on whether or not these clowns are statistically significant. My guess is no.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stopdiggin
(11,316 posts)Nope. This is what we disagree on. We don't see any evidence of these kinds of people showing up in the other campaigns. Not now. Not in the past. And it has nothing to do with their ranking or level of support. It seems to have something to do with Mr. Sanders, and his tribe.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)The Clinton camp in particular.
I would argue that primary was may more vicious than 2016 or 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanTex
(20,709 posts)The "Bernie Bros" myth is that Bernie, and only Bernie, has people supporting him that say rude things on twitter. It takes about two minutes on twitter to realize that this is totally false.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KPN
(15,646 posts)Let's be realistic and objective here. Talk about vile. Geesh!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Clash City Rocker
(3,396 posts)That branch of Bernies base seems to be made up of people who are mostly anarchists. I doubt that many of them are registered Democrats, unless they registered just to vote for Bernie.
I dont blame Bernie for having such supporters, but I wish hed say more to discourage them from acting that way.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ramen
(790 posts)There is unquestionably some ugly behavior from Sanders supporters. But it is not specific to his supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Next thing someone will be telling us that we shouldn't use his initials.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lulu KC
(2,566 posts)We need more laughter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Codeine
(25,586 posts)and that kinda shit right there is why youre one of them!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ramen
(790 posts)would be a good idea? The tactic is no different than people throwing around 'Shillary' and 'Hillbot' four years ago. It's self-defeating and lowers discourse, at best. I propose we let Trump call names and let's be better than that here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)(Jim Young/Reuters)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
davs797
(22 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
progressoid
(49,991 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueWI
(1,736 posts)many of whom wearing glasses.
Is there something supposed to be scary about this picture? The more we see of this, the better off Democrats are.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Also Sanders supporters: All sorts of divisive stuff about everyone else
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(9,370 posts)Bernie supporters who are divisive towards the Democratic party?
I don't mind any other term that defines this particular group of people.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Quixote1818
(28,944 posts)Tries to undermine his campaign like Hillary's attacks saying no one likes him? What do you expect them to do? Just take it? It's a grassroots movement that the establishment freaked out about.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)and believe anything BS claims, evidence to the contrary
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
we can do it
(12,189 posts)Or actual Democrats who are always Democrats not just when its politically expedient?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
McKim
(2,412 posts)Thank you, as a Warren and Sanders supporter I am not taking it. The ideas that Sanders supporters are Bros., are mean full of vitriol, vicious, Brown Shirts and etc. has been pushed through the echo chamber for quite a while now and it is tiresome. Even my neighbor who is a reasonable progressive person said yesterday that Sanders supporters are mean. She didnt realize she was talking to one!
As a 74 year old retired teacher and human rights and peace activist I truly resent being attacked in all the media. It is a cheap shot. They cant attack Sanders ideas so they attack his followers.
I ignore it and continue to send a check every month to Sanders and Warrens campaigns. I support Medicare for All and a family member died for lack of it!
I am prepared to vote Blue no Matter Who but how much bashing can a decent person take?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(9,370 posts)I just wanted to know what the politically correct term du jour for Bernie Bros is. It is a clearly defined group of people who don't like being called Bernie Bros. I want to know what they prefer to be called. The degree of their hypocrisy will not change no matter what I call them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cherryinpa
(301 posts)As a Biden supporter I use this term my self and I've increasingly not liked it.
At the end of the day these so called "Bernie Bros" are all part of the larger Democratic family.
What people arn't noticing is that Biden has been lacklustre but he has never attacked personally the Bernie supporter, he understands their perspective. It was a real touching moment when Biden + Bernie hugged at the last debate that shows you how people can eventually come together as family.
We don't go around calling family members derogatory names.
Eventually there will be healing (whichver candiate wins) and people will coalesce around.
In the spirit of working together, I will stop using this phrase.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,583 posts)Democrats who claim they want unity. And I don't think this needs an explanation either. You can't have your cake and eat it too...engage in this sort of thing and then cry foul when it comes back at you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)WTF
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)Destroying Bloomber staffer's lives and then not call BS supporters Bernie Bro's bc it hurts your feelings?!?!! That it is divisive? Is that right?!?!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)But hey, all campaigns have this problem, don't ya know.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)...to silence people they don't like.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Jirel
(2,018 posts)I love Bernie. Im tired of hearing it overused too. But there is a small subset of people for whom this term works. For example, I just read an opinion post from one last week who was bemoaning that hell never vote again, ever, if Bernie gets cheated by the DNC.
I dont believe the Bros are really in this to save the country. I suspect that most of that tiny contingent are little more than hipster trolls who are perfectly fine with Trump. I barely consider them Bernie supporters, because Bernie would be facepalming at their whining and foot stomping. I know a few of these people. If you press them, theyll start insisting that Trump is not a problem, really kind of an ok dude, and the threat is the deep state.
So, lets stop using this term for people, Democrats, Socialists, Greens, and Independents who truly back Bernie. The vast, vast majority of Bernies supporters are amazing, passionate people who, if he doesnt get the nom, will work tirelessly to defeat Trump and get some good done in DC. Just like Bernie did for Hillary in 2016. IT IS NOT A SYNONYM FOR BERNIE SUPPORTER.
As for those fake progressives with a secret hard on for Trump, who use Bernie as a vehicle for their propaganda, carry on. Its a good term to differentiate the wolves in the fold whose allegiance to Bernie is a cover for conspiracy theories and shenanigans.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
You make some very good points. Based on the disinformation that went on in 2015/2016 I would not be surprised if the term BernieBros hasn't been hijacked and intentional framed as a bad thing. How much do we trust that those who claim they are BB's are really Bernie supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,999 posts)How about Sanders supporters using the #MayorCheat hashtag to attack Buttigieg?
How about Sanders supporters adding the #bendtheknee hashtag to tweets demanding supporters of other candidates, and critics of Sanders, "fall into line" behind him?
How about Sanders supporters saying anyone working for Bloomberg should be blacklisted?
How about Sanders supporters threatening leaders of groups that don't back Sanders?
But you think describing any Bernie supporters as "Bernie Bros" is divisive?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,496 posts)sound rather positive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)Because I haven't seen it.
And yet the slur "Bernie Bro" is tolerated here.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RandySF
(58,896 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)What's the proper term to use for Sirota and Nina and Briahna Joy Gray? They have said many nasty and divisive things... particularly with their smears and denigrating attacks on the Democratic party and against loyal stalwart Democrats.
Why so much concern over the feelings of some fringe malcontents who aren't likely to vote anyway... when we have high-profile people like the ones I just mentioned who are causing much more damage to the party with their divisive rhetoric. Things like that only cause resentment and distrust. It drives away new voters and first time voters if they're constantly being told how "worthless" the Democrats are or that there's "no difference between the parties" or that "Democrats can't be trusted" and that "the system is corrupt".
All these LIES cause so much more damage in the long run. It does nothing but create negativity. Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)You know what ELSE is "divisive"...
It's divisive when someone falsely claims that Democrats are "ideologically bankrupt".
It's divisive when someone smears and denigrates Democrats by calling us "feeble".
It's divisive when someone accuses the Democratic party of being "corrupt" and an "absolute failure".
It doesn't promote unity when someone claims that the Democratic party is "the party of the one-percent" or that the Democratic party is "party of the elite".
It also does not promote unity or trust when someone says there's "no difference between Democrats and Republicans."
It's an outright lie for someone to claim that the Democratic party "doesn't care about climate change."
What good purpose does it serve for someone to say that that the Democrats "focus too much" on diversity and that the party isn't "particularly sympathetic" to the working class.
Whenever someone is worried about the feelings of a particular subset of voters, I often wonder why that same concern about "unity" isn't also being expressed when the ENTIRE PARTY is being smeared and denigrated?
Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,496 posts)Spot on!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)Shame, because it's spot on.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
we can do it
(12,189 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Codeine
(25,586 posts)of his supporters; not every Sanders fan is a BernieBro, but Ill call the ones who are exactly that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,054 posts)2016 when I supported him. That's an angry young male cohort who may in fact be outside agitators or Russian trolls. I didn't take offense unless someone suggested all Bernie voters were "bros".
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
malchickiwick
(1,474 posts)Bernie has a small kernel of supporters that live in the sewers of 4chan, et. al., and spew vile hatred every bit as well as the MAGAtrolls.
In my opinion, he needs to deliver that cadre a sharp talking to immediately.
For example, from here in NV, from the Nevada Independent:
Two top Culinary Union officials have faced threatening phone calls, emails and tweets and say their personal information was shared online after the release of a union scorecard that took particular aim at Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.
Secretary-Treasurer Geoconda Arguello-Kline, for instance, has come under attack for her Nicaraguan heritage, and union spokeswoman Bethany Khan was accused of being paid off by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other Democratic establishment types. In tweets, the union and its leadership have been referred to as bitches, whore, fucking scab and evil, entitled assholes.
Full story:
https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/culinary-union-officials-face-profanity-laced-attacks-after-scorecard-says-sanders-would-end-their-health-care
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
deurbano
(2,895 posts)dangerous fascist-- a white nationalist, racist, misogynist (etc., etc.,), sexual assaulting, narcissistic, petty, vindictive, ignorant and evil conman. Yet a certain contingent thought their main enemy was the Democratic nominee, who also happened to be the first woman ever nominated by a major party. An historic moment in American history, and the Boo Bros (and their female counterparts) respond by putting all their energy (and venom) into tearing her down.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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murielm99
(30,745 posts)using language and terms that you prefer.
I will call people Bernie Bros if I want to do that. I see divisiveness, all right. I see it here, IRL, and all over the internet. Who is doing the dividing? BernieBros.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Its ridiculous that the source of all the negativity in this cycle is complaining about negativity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rzemanfl
(29,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dware
(12,393 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,293 posts)Normally going to a national convention is a once in a life time experience. I have worked really hard inside the party on campaigns and voter protection issues for a very long time to earn this trip. Too bad that sanders and his vetted delegates ruined that experience and did their best to help trump. A candidate has absolute approval rights over their pledged delegates because these delegates can change their votes and these delegates represent the candidate and campaign. I helped vet Clinton delegates and I know that I was vetted. The Clinton campaign told us that we represent her and that our actions would reflect on her and her campaign.
In contrast, sanders sent one very weak text the Sunday night before the convention and then did little or nothing to control his delegates. It was nasty I was there when the sanders delegates booed Congressman John Lewis. I was warned about this stunt 30 minutes before it happened by the Clinton campaign whip. According to my whip, sanders was asked to stop this event and declined. That incident will be used against sanders by Russia to suppress the African American vote just as was done in 2016
Link to tweet
Russia will just run material showing sanders delegates booing John Lewis, Elijah Cummings and others to suppress the vote of African American voters and I feel that this tactic would be very effective
I was at the Texas delegation breakfast when a group of sanders delegates marched in and demanded that we condemn Clinton and change our votes to sanders.
sanders spoke to the Texas delegation the next morning and his speech was again solely about himself. There was a mini-riot due to his delegates the prior morning and the only thing that sanders talked about was himself. sanders did nothing to deal with the fact that his delegates were out of control and did nothing to try to help Hillary Clinton win the general election.
Finally a group of sanders delegates yelled at my daughter and called her the c-Word because she would not try to get me to change my vote. Again sanders was asked to tell his delegates to behave during the convention and sanders refused
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)So disrespectful. (And his friends just nod in agreement.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)They exist, and they intimidate with over the top anger when faced with their triggers (ie Hillary). I have one on my FB feed. Nice guy except for his Bernie Bro side. I do confront him when he is inappropriate and he backs down.
But yeah, Ive never seen the same kind of outbursts from the supporters of other Democrats.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)You can call out anyone you think warrants the ridicule whenever you want, as assholes, jerks, idiots, bullies, saboteurs, disrupters, hypocrites, or anything else you think fits. But all too often "Bernie Bros" is a term applied loosely to everyone who fervently supports Bernie Sanders, and at least as many females do that as males. That term literally makes the contributions of women, either positive or negative, invisible. And no one can even make a convincing case that the worst type of behavior that you are complaining about is engaged in exclusively by men. In my opinion Bernie Bro' was designed as a slur to intentionally insinuate that Bernie Sanders and those who support him are anti-women, and/or dismissive of women's real concerns. It is meant to imply that Bernie's campaign more so than any other is oppressively male oriented. It is using sexist language to make a sexist attack on Bernie Sanders and all who support him.
Condemn obnoxious behavior all you want but you don't have to employ sexist language to do so.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,293 posts)I use the term sanders supporters and I pointed out facts about what happened at the National Convention
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)But you are correct that you yourself called out some Bernie supporters as Bernie supporters as opposed to using "Bernie Bros" and so I should have credited you with that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,293 posts)They are not nice people Remember that these vetted delegates were official representatives of the sanders campaign>. The incidents describes on this board and in the Bloomberg ad are consistent with what I personally saw
Do you really think that booing Congressman JOHN Lewis and Rlijah Cummings reflect well in sanders or the sanders campaign?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)That of course is the other thing, some opponents of Sanders use a broad brush that tars all who support Sanders, but to answer your question directly, my answer is: No
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,293 posts)Their conduct reflected on the sanders campaign.
As for booing JOHN Lewis and others Russia will use this planned stunt to suppress the vote of African American voters in the general election
If sanders is 6he nominee, trump wins45+ states
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)The response too is self-explanatory.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KPN
(15,646 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Turbineguy
(37,338 posts)will always be the people who kicked me off the Bernie Sanders forum last time around.
But maybe they changed and are less divisive now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LarryNM
(493 posts)or maybe two instead of using their energy to attack Sanders and his supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
33taw
(2,443 posts)Of course, Trump is fair game.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)how much Bernie supporters use the victim card. Won't be long before they start calling themselves oppressed by the oligarchy or something out a communist insurgency manual.
I have never seen candidate's supporters be so divisive, aggressive, down right angry and intolerant until Bernie came along. It's mind blowing.
A lot of Bernie supporters are SELF APPOINTED Bernie bros. If they don't want anyone using that term, maybe they should stop using it themselves...on themselves.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CalFione
(571 posts)Link to tweet
And this is not abnormal behavior by a Bernie supporter online. This is pretty much standard.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yaesu
(8,020 posts)cambridge analytica & the russians.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Fiendish Thingy
(15,622 posts)https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/sanders-supporters-bernie-bro-poll-less-white-women-2020-democrat-candidates-a9070531.html
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
apcalc
(4,465 posts)The group was nasty and he did not discourage them.
Heretofore , can we call them assholes?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)We need this kind of enthusiasm to win the election? Just asking.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stopdiggin
(11,316 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)Bernie Bros and I don't see why we should be afraid to call them out when they are creating division and chaos. On the other hand, most Bernie supporters are no different than any other DUers and should be treated with respect.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Someone tweeted a clip from CNBC how bad Warren would be for Wall Street profits. Berniebros responded that even though these TV-hosts talked about Warren, they really meant Sanders.
Someone tweeted about Jill Stein. Some guy with Bernie2020 in his tag responded how he loves watching liberals get triggered.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)That's where we're at...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
irisblue
(32,980 posts)Patrick🌹 (@Plindsey2323) Tweeted:
.@MSNBC - Bernie Bro, here... If you're going to use my tweet, the least you could do is unblur my face... 😂
#BernieBeatsTrump #NotMeUs https://t.co/Srv04E9XKl
Link to tweet
Patrick🌹 (@Plindsey2323) Tweeted:
@BenjaminPDixon Why did Mikey decide to use my tweet, and can I get him to unblur my name and picture? 🤷♂️ https://t.co/c0cI32CuHw
Link to tweet
I do not expect your wish to stop using Bernie Bro is going to take hold Herb
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)should not be done bythose who claim they want unity.
Since I know Bernie Bros who call themselves Bernie Bros - Im sorry but I see this as a huge NON-PROBLEM.
Why are you - heck, why am *I* spending any time whatsoever thinking about this.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
zentrum
(9,865 posts).....are allowed to hurl any insult against Bernie.
Very disturbing.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,732 posts)both on-line and IRL, and I don't understand why the majority who are not like that don't make an effort to shut them up, instead of getting defensive and/or trying to claim they don't exist. The other campaigns don't seem to have this problem. If you don't want people pointing this fact out, whether or not they are called Bernie Bros, maybe Bernie himself needs to try to control them, and if he doesn't his less obnoxious supporters might want to do so. The fact is that this loud, nasty minority does not reflect well on the candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,217 posts)Sanders supporters
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)you tell us we need to be respectful for unity. When I see even a hint of Sanders cleaning up his own house, then I will listen to his preaching.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LudwigPastorius
(9,155 posts)Is that OK?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KSNY
(315 posts)of which there are many. Bloomberg should keep his ads aimed at Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)And if you do not want to hold Bernie Sanders responsible for their behaviors..then his Lieutenants that he hired are and they were then rehired.. so in the end he is responsible.
I have posted this before.. 2016 I was the precinct caption for Martin O'Malley.. At our caucus all candidates could have a representative give a speech (5 minutes) on their behalf before the second vote. The Bernie people started booing me at minute one and would not let me finish. They tried to wrestle supporters away before the first vote. Who ever gave them their marching orders, these were the rudest people I have ever met at a caucus. They just tried to intimidate everyone.
This year, they did not even bother to come in and try for second votes from the candidates who were not viable. Warrens people spoke to us, Buttigiegs people spoke to us and guess what they got a bunch of second votes.. Warren got my entire family..they (The Bernie captains)marched their people out of there before they even had the chance to caucus.
Sorry folks.. but we have just finished 3 years with an attitudinal bunch in DC who we are trying to vote out and I do not need it out of my own par
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)I mean...wow.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
hurple
(1,306 posts)Very much yes.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dware
(12,393 posts)Think I'll pass on this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)what's going on now is nothing compared to past elections.
Not many people alive today who remember those days in Boston when you got your ballot and took it home to fill it out. Then you carried it in an outside pocket so it could be seen on the way to the poll. Different parties had different colored ballots and if you had the wrong color in some neighborhoods you would have to call in sick the next day. For many years in our young nation political supporters had to worry about mob violence.
Lies and bullshit about candidates? Not many people alive today have seen the "Daisy" ad LBJ only aired once, but even without the internet it became viral. (Betcha didn't know Stan Lee wrote the script.) I remember seeing it and damn near crapped my young pants.
And when you get right down to it, the divisiveness is from those threatening the Party, not from those objecting to the threats and nastiness.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)As Democratic socialist
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
boston bean
(36,221 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mvd
(65,174 posts)I agree that there is a portion of Bernie supporters that is not always constructive, but that shouldnt tarnish the candidate or most who support him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)The outrage would somehow be more real to some. It's not that hard to play nice and to leave the names to the schoolyard; I think that's your point.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Anaxamander
(570 posts)where you could only call supporters of another candidate "______ supporters." Couldn't say Deaniacs, Shillarybots, etc. Seems logical to me.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)Those kinds of slurs are only tolerated against one candidate here.
Doesn't matter though. As soon as you go out in the real world the myth of the "Bernie Bro" shatters.
That's why we are WINNING
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pecosbob
(7,541 posts)fixed that...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Progressive dog
(6,904 posts)rather than putting the fanatical ones into a special category. Besides, some may actually not be male. I vote for Democratic candidates because I support the Democratic party, not because no one in it hurt my feelings.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)Most people who hate Bernie Sanders refer to his supporters as Sanders supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skid Rogue
(711 posts)but this seems like a "you reap what you sow" kind of issues. If you adopted slyly degrading nicknames for other candidates and their supporters, or you stood by during 2016 while other's used similar language, then you have helped to create an atmosphere where this is now acceptable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden