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🔥 THE MOST DIVERSE COALITION IN POLITICS: BAY AREA RALLIES WITH BERNIE (Original Post)
Donkees
Feb 2020
OP
We already had it, "Socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor" it's just a matter
Uncle Joe
Feb 2020
#2
Meanwhile in reality Mr. Sanders support has declined and if it were not for the split field
UniteFightBack
Feb 2020
#13
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)1. Is America ready for a 'Socialist revolution"?
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Uncle Joe
(58,365 posts)2. We already had it, "Socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor" it's just a matter
for the rest of America to join the party.
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Andrew Young has been cited for calling the United States system socialism for the rich and free enterprise for the poor, and Martin Luther King, Jr. frequently used this wording in his speeches.[5][6] Since at least 1969, Gore Vidal used the expression free enterprise for the poor and socialism for the rich to describe the U.S. economic policies,[7][8] and he used it from the 1980s in his critiques of Reaganomics.[9]
In winter 2006/2007, in response to criticism about oil imports from Venezuela, that country being under the leadership of Hugo Chávez, the founder and president of Citizens Energy Corporation Joseph P. Kennedy II countered with a critique of the U.S. system which he characterized as a kind of socialism for the rich and free enterprise for the poor that leaves the most vulnerable out in the cold.[10] Also Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. has become known for expressing to large audiences that the United States is now a land of socialism for the rich and brutal capitalism for the poor.[11]
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Linguist Noam Chomsky has criticized the way in which free market principles have been applied. He has argued that the wealthy use free-market rhetoric to justify imposing greater economic risk upon the lower classes, while being insulated from the rigours of the market by the political and economic advantages that such wealth affords.[13] He remarked, "the free market is socialism for the rich[free] markets for the poor and state protection for the rich."[14] He has stated that the rich and powerful "want to be able to run the nanny state" so that "when they are in trouble the taxpayer will bail them out", citing "too big to fail" as an example.[15]
Arguments along a similar line were raised in connection with the financial turmoil in 2008. With regard to the federal takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Ron Blackwell, chief economist of AFL-CIO, used the expression Socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor to characterize the system.[16] In September 2008, the US Senator Bernie Sanders said regarding the bailout of the U.S. financial system: This is the most extreme example that I can recall of socialism for the rich and free enterprise for the poor.[17] The same month, economist Nouriel Roubini stated: It is pathetic that Congress did not consult any of the many professional economists that have presented [ ] alternative plans that were more fair and efficient and less costly ways to resolve this crisis. This is again a case of privatizing the gains and socializing the losses; a bailout and socialism for the rich, the well-connected and Wall Street.[18]
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Journalist John Pilger included the phrase in his speech accepting Australia's human rights award, the Sydney Peace Prize, on 5th November 2009: "Democracy has become a business plan, with a bottom line for every human activity, every dream, every decency, every hope. The main parliamentary parties are now devoted to the same economic policies - socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor - and the same foreign policy of servility to endless war. This is not democracy. It is to politics what McDonald's is to food."[20]
U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders referenced the phrase during his eight-and-a-half-hour speech on the senate floor on December 10, 2010 against the continuation of Bush-era tax cuts, when speaking on the federal bailout of major financial institutions at a time when small-businesses were being denied loans. [21]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_for_the_rich_and_capitalism_for_the_poor
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I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)8. Democratic socialist
Is not communism or total socialism. I wish people would get that and do a little research for what Democratic socialism really is instead of treating people who understand this as if they're stupid.
This irritates me.
Argue from a point of knowledge not of knee jerk reactions.
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David__77
(23,420 posts)14. Sanders certainly isn't offering that.
Never once has had said in his campaign that he offers socialist revolution Revolution has been used by plenty of candidates.
Some people may be surprised to realize that there are many people to the left of Sanders.
Tony Blair was socialist leader of Britain- he hardly led a socialist revolution.
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CentralMass
(15,265 posts)3. K&R
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George II
(67,782 posts)4. According to whom?
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)5. So far, polls and election results.
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)7. Woohoo!!
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)9. A diverse coalition who lives in a bubble is still doomed. nt
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HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)12. Funny how that bubble keeps growing larger.
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UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)13. Meanwhile in reality Mr. Sanders support has declined and if it were not for the split field
in the realist/adult wing of the party he would be ghost. And bubbles are also prone to bursting....so there's that.
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HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)15. Sure, sure.
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lunasun
(21,646 posts)11. Danny Glover -didn't expect him to introduce Sanders
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