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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:10 AM Feb 2020

Briahna Gray lied to John Berman on CNN this morning and got caught!

Remember this when Sanders claims people who attack the other candidates aren't part of his campaign.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Briahna Gray lied to John Berman on CNN this morning and got caught! (Original Post) George II Feb 2020 OP
Nah.. your crying "smear" is Not going to stop People Cha Feb 2020 #1
As Far As I'm Concerned This Issue Is A Complete Disqualifier Me. Feb 2020 #3
It's unreal.. anyone would release their Full Cha Feb 2020 #4
It's A Problem Me. Feb 2020 #24
.. Cha Feb 2020 #28
In the midst of complaining about a "smear campaign" she smears Bloomberg. Unbelievable! George II Feb 2020 #6
Right.. steeped in said "smears" of her Cha Feb 2020 #9
I hope she gets a spot as Minister of Information in the Revolutionary government dalton99a Feb 2020 #2
So the "smear" campaign is against Bloomberg. showblue22 Feb 2020 #5
Despicable. She has to know that's a lie. This was a decision made at the top of highplainsdem Feb 2020 #7
Sanders hires his attacks dogs awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #8
Hillary hating, Jill Stein supporter, Briahna Joy Gray, along with still_one Feb 2020 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #11
See ya. George II Feb 2020 #12
That was fast. dware Feb 2020 #19
Yeah, LOL. PatrickforO Feb 2020 #35
Welcome back. dware Feb 2020 #18
She's absolutely right. Again, it's a double standard the media tries to use against Bernie. DanTex Feb 2020 #13
She said Bloomberg has suffered heart attacks. He hasn't. Not one. George II Feb 2020 #14
The issue is... is that Bernie said he was going to release his full records!! Peacetrain Feb 2020 #15
And he has, to the same level of detail as other candidates. DanTex Feb 2020 #16
"The American people have a right to know whether the person they're going to be voting for for Peacetrain Feb 2020 #21
He said he would release his full medical records, dware Feb 2020 #22
Dan I know you are a huge Bernie supporter..as I am a Biden supporter!! Peacetrain Feb 2020 #23
Or, what if Bloomberg hat two stents put in, and didn't disclose it for seven years? DanTex Feb 2020 #27
Dan you hit the nub of the problem! Peacetrain Feb 2020 #34
He has released his records, with the same full-ness as anyone else. DanTex Feb 2020 #43
Or maybe we should worry if our possible nominee dware Feb 2020 #37
Bloomberg wasn't running for President in 2000 or 2007. He also wasn't 78 years old back then. George II Feb 2020 #40
And I don't particularly care about Bloomberg's heart condition either. DanTex Feb 2020 #44
Having 2 stents is not the same thing as having a heart attack. eilen Feb 2020 #54
How about providing a link to Mike having a heart attack? dware Feb 2020 #20
Apparently she was referring to the stent procedure which Bloomberg didn't disclose for 7 years. DanTex Feb 2020 #26
She said heart attacks, dware Feb 2020 #30
She said heart attackS. George II Feb 2020 #32
Yes she did, dware Feb 2020 #45
Evidently she misspoke, or misunderstood the nature of Bloomberg's condition. DanTex Feb 2020 #33
No, she didn't, dware Feb 2020 #42
Apparently she "misspoke". Cha Feb 2020 #39
I have another word True Blue American Feb 2020 #47
Yeah, we all do! Cha Feb 2020 #48
:) True Blue American Feb 2020 #50
she's Absolutely Wrong. Cha Feb 2020 #25
Now she's saying she "missspoke". Cha Feb 2020 #38
Baghdad Briahna assures us Codeine Feb 2020 #17
yup- Kevin Bacon did it best lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #49
Right. I guess heart surgery to implement a couple stents because of a blocked artery jmg257 Feb 2020 #29
You're right, they're not the same but are completely different. George II Feb 2020 #36
Yep - "tiredness and discomfort" - sounds like my dad when he had a "Heart attack"... jmg257 Feb 2020 #41
She like Nina Turner is a LIAR Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2020 #31
I love how she tried to equivalence asking Bernie to release medical records lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #46
Also said had 64 sexual assaults and was his company. Also said Democratic voters are brithers. krissey Feb 2020 #51
Not just a staffer but the person who speaks for him and the campaign. George II Feb 2020 #52
Also saying the first woman nomination for president was a "hold your nose" candidate. krissey Feb 2020 #53
 

Cha

(297,845 posts)
1. Nah.. your crying "smear" is Not going to stop People
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:13 AM
Feb 2020

from wanting Full Transparency on BS' medical records that he said were forth coming, bjg.




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Me.

(35,454 posts)
3. As Far As I'm Concerned This Issue Is A Complete Disqualifier
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:21 AM
Feb 2020

And he must know it as he won't release the records

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Cha

(297,845 posts)
4. It's unreal.. anyone would release their Full
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:23 AM
Feb 2020

Medical records for Transparency that they said they were going to release unless they didn't think it was a good idea anymore.

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
24. It's A Problem
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:29 PM
Feb 2020

Good Night Hoa

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George II

(67,782 posts)
6. In the midst of complaining about a "smear campaign" she smears Bloomberg. Unbelievable!
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:26 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,845 posts)
9. Right.. steeped in said "smears" of her
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:41 AM
Feb 2020

own making.

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dalton99a

(81,649 posts)
2. I hope she gets a spot as Minister of Information in the Revolutionary government
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:14 AM
Feb 2020

Sirota can be our Minister of Truth

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
5. So the "smear" campaign is against Bloomberg.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:24 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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highplainsdem

(49,059 posts)
7. Despicable. She has to know that's a lie. This was a decision made at the top of
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:28 AM
Feb 2020

the Sanders campaign to lie about Bloomberg's health, to try to shift attention away from Sanders breaking his promise to release his medical records.

This is contemptible.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
8. Sanders hires his attacks dogs
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:32 AM
Feb 2020

He's ok with whatever they do as long as it helps him achieve his ultimate goal.

Win at any cost. He's ok with that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,479 posts)
10. Hillary hating, Jill Stein supporter, Briahna Joy Gray, along with
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:56 AM
Feb 2020

David Sirota, and Nina Turner

need I say more?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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dware

(12,449 posts)
19. That was fast.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:20 PM
Feb 2020

MIRT taking out the trash.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatrickforO

(14,599 posts)
35. Yeah, LOL.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:34 PM
Feb 2020

Say bye to that guy................or should I say troll.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dware

(12,449 posts)
18. Welcome back.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:19 PM
Feb 2020

Enjoy your stay.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
13. She's absolutely right. Again, it's a double standard the media tries to use against Bernie.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:13 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. She said Bloomberg has suffered heart attacks. He hasn't. Not one.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:14 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,880 posts)
15. The issue is... is that Bernie said he was going to release his full records!!
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:14 PM
Feb 2020

No one else but him.. and now he isn't??

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
16. And he has, to the same level of detail as other candidates.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:16 PM
Feb 2020

If you won't vote for any candidate unless you see their EKG readout, well, that's up to you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Peacetrain

(22,880 posts)
21. "The American people have a right to know whether the person they're going to be voting for for
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:22 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dware

(12,449 posts)
22. He said he would release his full medical records,
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:26 PM
Feb 2020

then he had a heart attack, after that, he refused to do so, that would lead a reasonable person to believe that there's something in those records that would sink his candidacy.

For the record, I favor full disclosure of medical records from all candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,880 posts)
23. Dan I know you are a huge Bernie supporter..as I am a Biden supporter!!
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:27 PM
Feb 2020

can you imagine how you would react if say, Steyer had a heart issue in Oct. He had 2 stents put in. In Nov he says he is going to release his full records.. 3 months later he says no. Would that no make you question what is going on with Steyer, especially if he could be the winner who will take on Trump..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
27. Or, what if Bloomberg hat two stents put in, and didn't disclose it for seven years?
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:30 PM
Feb 2020
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/28/nyregion/28bloomberg.html

Maybe we should all worry about things that matter, you know, like healthcare policy or education or climate...
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Peacetrain

(22,880 posts)
34. Dan you hit the nub of the problem!
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:34 PM
Feb 2020

We are not here out of hating Bernie Sanders! No I do not think he is the best person, and you do not think Joe or Mike are the best people for the run.. the problem is Sen Sanders said he was going to release his full records three months ago, not three years ago, seven years ago thirty years ago..

And he has promised many things. If he is not willing to keep a promise he made three months ago on the campaign trail, then what other promises is he not going to keep.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
43. He has released his records, with the same full-ness as anyone else.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:39 PM
Feb 2020

If you don't want to vote for him unless you see his EKG readout, that's fine. I'm guessing about 0% of the electorate is concerned about that.

If Bernie wants to release is EKG readout, that's fine with me. If not, that's also fine with me. Maybe he's risking the EKG aficionado vote, but somehow I think people care more about climate, education, healthcare, etc. :shrug":

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dware

(12,449 posts)
37. Or maybe we should worry if our possible nominee
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:35 PM
Feb 2020

would drop dead in the WH because of something he refused to disclose to the public?

Think that could be an issue?
Why won't he release those records?
Why is he now refusing to after having an MI?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
40. Bloomberg wasn't running for President in 2000 or 2007. He also wasn't 78 years old back then.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:37 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
44. And I don't particularly care about Bloomberg's heart condition either.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:40 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

eilen

(4,950 posts)
54. Having 2 stents is not the same thing as having a heart attack.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 03:27 PM
Feb 2020

He could have had some symptoms, went to his cardiologist and had a cath and found some blockages >90% without a heart attack-- and stented them (or it could just be one lesion needing 2 stents). I don't know where the stents are but that is material to their coronary disease.

An actual heart attack can be a problem, depending on what grade it is, if heart wall function is hypokinetic, if ejection fraction is decreased.

Of course CAD is a chronic disease. It can recur. Hardly any American over 50 is free of heart disease but some have it worse than others. Some risk factors you can't do much about (heredity, age, gender), some you can (stress, diet, habitus, smoking/non smoking, drug use, exercise).

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

dware

(12,449 posts)
20. How about providing a link to Mike having a heart attack?
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:22 PM
Feb 2020

You can't, because he didn't, so that would make her a liar.

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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
26. Apparently she was referring to the stent procedure which Bloomberg didn't disclose for 7 years.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:29 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dware

(12,449 posts)
30. She said heart attacks,
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:32 PM
Feb 2020

which is far different from a stent, any educated person knows this, so, IMO, she was deliberately lying trying to smear Mr. Bloomberg, which reflects badly on the Sanders campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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George II

(67,782 posts)
32. She said heart attackS.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:34 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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dware

(12,449 posts)
45. Yes she did,
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:41 PM
Feb 2020

edited my post to reflect that.
Thanks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
33. Evidently she misspoke, or misunderstood the nature of Bloomberg's condition.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:34 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dware

(12,449 posts)
42. No, she didn't,
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:38 PM
Feb 2020

This is a pattern of the Sanders campaign, she knew exactly what she was saying and why she was saying it, she was trying to smear Mr. Bloomberg while at the same time, deflect from the fact that Mr. Sanders was reneging on his promise of full transparency.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,845 posts)
39. Apparently she "misspoke".
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:37 PM
Feb 2020
Washington (CNN)Sen. Bernie Sanders' national press secretary on Wednesday distorted Michael Bloomberg's past heart issues and called questions about the Vermont senator's health and requests for additional records a "smear" campaign.

Sanders spokeswoman Briahna Joy Gray later said she misspoke when she said Bloomberg had experienced heart attacks in the past.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287538525#post9
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True Blue American

(17,995 posts)
47. I have another word
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:43 PM
Feb 2020

For misspoke! It has 3 letters.

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Cha

(297,845 posts)
25. she's Absolutely Wrong.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:29 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Cha

(297,845 posts)
38. Now she's saying she "missspoke".
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:36 PM
Feb 2020
Washington (CNN)Sen. Bernie Sanders' national press secretary on Wednesday distorted Michael Bloomberg's past heart issues and called questions about the Vermont senator's health and requests for additional records a "smear" campaign.

Sanders spokeswoman Briahna Joy Gray later said she misspoke when she said Bloomberg had experienced heart attacks in the past.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287538525#post9
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Codeine

(25,586 posts)
17. Baghdad Briahna assures us
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:17 PM
Feb 2020

that everything is fine.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapfog_1

(29,232 posts)
49. yup- Kevin Bacon did it best
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:45 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
29. Right. I guess heart surgery to implement a couple stents because of a blocked artery
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:32 PM
Feb 2020

Is NOT the same as a heart attack!

Before he was elected mayor in 2001, Michael R. Bloomberg had surgery to have two stents implanted in a coronary artery because of blockage in his heart, a person with knowledge of Mr. Bloomberg’s health said last night.

Mayor Bloomberg has not had heart disease since the stents were put in, according to this person, who spoke on condition of anonymity because Mr. Bloomberg had not authorized release of the information. The mayor is in excellent health today, this person said.


https://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/28/nyregion/28bloomberg.html
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George II

(67,782 posts)
36. You're right, they're not the same but are completely different.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:35 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
41. Yep - "tiredness and discomfort" - sounds like my dad when he had a "Heart attack"...
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:37 PM
Feb 2020

Man what a mess THAT was, to find out how bad it actually was!

Edit: he got a pacemaker, not stents

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Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
31. She like Nina Turner is a LIAR
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:33 PM
Feb 2020

Skeptical and smears are two different things.

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lapfog_1

(29,232 posts)
46. I love how she tried to equivalence asking Bernie to release medical records
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:43 PM
Feb 2020

to the birtherism against Obama.

then casually dropping in the lie that mike has had multiple heart attacks in the past.

As someone who has suffered from "irregular heart beats (Wolfe-Parkinson-White)" all my life, this is a particurly ugly lie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
51. Also said had 64 sexual assaults and was his company. Also said Democratic voters are brithers.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 02:56 PM
Feb 2020

Yes, this would be Sanders staffers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
52. Not just a staffer but the person who speaks for him and the campaign.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 02:57 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
53. Also saying the first woman nomination for president was a "hold your nose" candidate.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 02:59 PM
Feb 2020

And they are DEMANDING I vote for this man that is not even a Democrat, using our resources and causing chaos in our primary for the second time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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