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brooklynite

(94,731 posts)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:25 AM Feb 2020

My wife was supporting Klobuchar with Bloomberg as a backup. Now she's not supporting either...

...and she thought Pete was "mean" so I don't know where that leaves her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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My wife was supporting Klobuchar with Bloomberg as a backup. Now she's not supporting either... (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2020 OP
Warren? Biden and Warren ecstatic Feb 2020 #1
She doesn't like Biden after seeing him in New Hampshire... brooklynite Feb 2020 #9
In fairness, she stepped back from that position, which I appreciate. nt ecstatic Feb 2020 #16
No she didn't... brooklynite Feb 2020 #17
I agree with your wife. Big Blue Marble Feb 2020 #2
I think PatSeg Feb 2020 #8
Take another look at Joe :) RandySF Feb 2020 #3
Pete just had to have the last word BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #4
Does she know Biden is leading dump by the widest margin in the swing states? Let me come over and UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #5
Actually, she's in Washington... brooklynite Feb 2020 #14
Warren. Get Warren and HRC on stage together. Harris VP. krissey Feb 2020 #6
Could I suggest Biden mommymarine2003 Feb 2020 #7
if not Pete, then the clear choice, at least for me, has boiled down to Biden Celerity Feb 2020 #10
Biden. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #11
Is she interested in policy, ability, or game-show-host talent? Sparkly Feb 2020 #12
She's interested in winning against Trump... brooklynite Feb 2020 #21
Health care is at the top of people's list. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #23
Sorry, but that's part of the problem... brooklynite Feb 2020 #24
Warren is the only one that can appeal to enough Bernie supporters and moderates Yavin4 Feb 2020 #13
I agree, but Warren does not seem to make her case to Bernie voters, conspicuously. Anon-C Feb 2020 #28
Tonight, I thought Buttigieg is just not seasoned enough for 2020. Hoyt Feb 2020 #15
Fact is, without coattails, none of this matters even if we win. herding cats Feb 2020 #18
Looked like Mayor Pete was using Swalwell's playbook tonight-- Bayard Feb 2020 #19
Joe, the antidote to Trump. Joinfortmill Feb 2020 #20
I can understand that reation Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #22
I like Amy less and Elizabeth more after last night. ginnyinWI Feb 2020 #25
Bernie! Welcome aboard, Mrs Brooklynite! DanTex Feb 2020 #26
Come home to Joe. Walleye Feb 2020 #27
These debates are so destructive... dawg day Feb 2020 #29
 

ecstatic

(32,731 posts)
1. Warren? Biden and Warren
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:26 AM
Feb 2020

are the only true choices left.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,731 posts)
9. She doesn't like Biden after seeing him in New Hampshire...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:29 AM
Feb 2020

...and she (like I) think Warren is still a risk because of her MfA position.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ecstatic

(32,731 posts)
16. In fairness, she stepped back from that position, which I appreciate. nt
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:39 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,731 posts)
17. No she didn't...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:44 AM
Feb 2020

What she said was that she would delay the MANDATORY element until her third year.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Big Blue Marble

(5,150 posts)
2. I agree with your wife.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:26 AM
Feb 2020

Pete looked mean and small.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,600 posts)
8. I think
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:29 AM
Feb 2020

Pete may have gotten some bad political advice. There's a fine line between being assertive and being mean. Not a good look, especially from someone so young and inexperienced.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RandySF

(59,234 posts)
3. Take another look at Joe :)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:27 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BeyondGeography

(39,380 posts)
4. Pete just had to have the last word
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:27 AM
Feb 2020

He wound up hurting himself IMO.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
5. Does she know Biden is leading dump by the widest margin in the swing states? Let me come over and
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:28 AM
Feb 2020

talk to her I'm in Queens I'll be right there.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,731 posts)
14. Actually, she's in Washington...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:32 AM
Feb 2020

...and seriously, we both saw Biden in New Hampshire and he wasn't impressive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
6. Warren. Get Warren and HRC on stage together. Harris VP.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:28 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mommymarine2003

(261 posts)
7. Could I suggest Biden
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:28 AM
Feb 2020

I thought he did great tonight. I did think Pete was a little mean, and Warren was too overbearing for me tonight. Can't stand Sanders or Bloomberg. I still like Amy, but I would prefer her as vice-president.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,523 posts)
10. if not Pete, then the clear choice, at least for me, has boiled down to Biden
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:30 AM
Feb 2020

He can unite the party and will have massive coattails, especially with a great VP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

W_HAMILTON

(7,873 posts)
11. Biden.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:30 AM
Feb 2020

He is a good man and a true Democrat through and through. He might stutter every now and then, but you can tell his head is in the right place as is his heart.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sparkly

(24,149 posts)
12. Is she interested in policy, ability, or game-show-host talent?
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:31 AM
Feb 2020

Is it about the candidate's perspective, their life experience, or their capacity to lash out at other candidates and/or react defensively to other candidates lashing out at them?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,731 posts)
21. She's interested in winning against Trump...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:44 AM
Feb 2020

...which combines policies that are saleable to the Electorate, personality and ability to manage the debate stage.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,430 posts)
23. Health care is at the top of people's list.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:21 AM
Feb 2020

Warren will fight for health care for all, but will work with our House and (soon-to-be) our Senate on how we get from here to there. Her record in Congress shows she knows how to work with others.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,731 posts)
24. Sorry, but that's part of the problem...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:31 AM
Feb 2020

Like Sanders, she advocates for a compulsory MfA program which risks her electability.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Yavin4

(35,446 posts)
13. Warren is the only one that can appeal to enough Bernie supporters and moderates
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:31 AM
Feb 2020

And bring in new voters as well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
28. I agree, but Warren does not seem to make her case to Bernie voters, conspicuously.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:42 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
15. Tonight, I thought Buttigieg is just not seasoned enough for 2020.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:38 AM
Feb 2020

I’d prefer Klobuchar over him in 2020. She’d carry a lot of midwestern states, and would love to see a woman Prez.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

herding cats

(19,567 posts)
18. Fact is, without coattails, none of this matters even if we win.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:49 AM
Feb 2020

My opinions: Bloomberg lost hands down. Klobacher lost ground, sadly. I really like her a lot, but her inability to connect and emphasize showed too deeply tonight. She can't do 'off the cuff' as needed, and cannot connect on that deeper empathic level.

Buttigieg May have actually lost ground in his attacks of Klobuchar. I get the strategy, but some,of his soft supporters find it distasteful so far.

Warren did good on vetting Bloomberg. I was impressed. She seems to be vying for the more moderate candidates followings per her strategy.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bayard

(22,153 posts)
19. Looked like Mayor Pete was using Swalwell's playbook tonight--
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:24 AM
Feb 2020

That obnoxious, "Pass the torch", refrain.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Joinfortmill

(14,460 posts)
20. Joe, the antidote to Trump.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:50 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
22. I can understand that reation
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:59 AM
Feb 2020

I think all three of them showed poorly last night. Bloomberg seemed as arrogant and unlikable as Mr. Burns in the Simpsons, Klobuchar seemed more brittle than usual, reverting to her standard well worn lines every time she got rattled, which contrasts with her former "freshness".. Pete did seem a little smug, a tad too polished and yes, bordered on seeming mean at times. He did nothing to expand his appeal beyond those already drawn to him, and given his current standing with People of Color, that spells trouble for him. Biden by far looked the best last night among those who pundits like to label as "the moderates"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
25. I like Amy less and Elizabeth more after last night.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:33 AM
Feb 2020

Amy tried to come out more aggressively I think, but didn't have a lot of substance.

I don't like Pete, Bloomberg or Sanders. So for me it's down to Biden, Elizabeth and Amy. We don't vote until April 7 so we'll see where we are then.

My daughter who is Pete's same age can't stand him! She likes Warren best.

The best candidates, to me, are the ones who talk about themselves the least and the issues the most.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
26. Bernie! Welcome aboard, Mrs Brooklynite!
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:34 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
29. These debates are so destructive...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:48 AM
Feb 2020

I like most of those people on the stage. But after these debates, I always feel alienated from them... don't want to hear them. And I am a dedicated Democrat! I can just imagine how the carping and bragging goes over with the less political.

These debates have them all attacking each other while Trump speaks all by himself to a worshipful audience. This isn't working. We want to hear their positions l, not their negatives about other Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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