Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumLooks like some moderates are worried the Dem nominee won't line up with them ideologically.
You know who has a lot of experience with that kind of situation? Lefties like me.
You know what we do when that happens? We vigorously support, donate, and vote for the Dem candidate.
It's not complicated.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wyldwolf
(43,869 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)We support moderates because they can actually WIN competitive races.
Simple example. Sanders has been elected in Vermont since 1991. Name a "leftie" who's been elected as Governor of Vermont or to one of the other Statewide offices.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...seats from red to blue defeated "lefty" candidates in their primaries and went on to win the general election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RandiFan1290
(6,242 posts)Calling us 'lefties' now?
Have a bad night? =
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CalFione
(571 posts)with the majority of the electorate in November.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
W_HAMILTON
(7,873 posts)...even though she dominated him in a way that Sanders almost assuredly won't win the nomination by in 2020 even if he were to win, what makes you think that? Are you saying that Sanders, if he were to win, will not offer concessions to the other candidates -- candidates that very well may, in fact, have enough delegates to keep him from winning the nomination outright?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)and even on MSNBC Joy Reid is talking about her moderate Dem friends feeling a sense of "mourning."
But if I've misread all that, and centrist Dems are cool with Bernie being the nominee, then so much the better.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)in a great many more cases than it's to do with fear of Bernie differing from them ideologically.
If I'z to hazard a guess, that'd be at least 70% of people expressing dismay at the prospect.
Just in case, you know, you'd not deduced that on your own thus far.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,341 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(51,004 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(51,004 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rzemanfl
(29,568 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)He'll get my vote, if i can bring myself to it in the booth. That's it.
I'll be putting my money where it will be desperately needed: the DCCC to save the seats Sandersism will be pissing away.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
white_wolf
(6,238 posts)And it's done nothing for the country.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
msongs
(67,441 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gulliver
(13,193 posts)We're aligned ideologically. Sanders just talks about the same things the so-called moderates talk about but in a way that ensures their certain failure.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scotch-Irish
(464 posts)We haven't had a liberal in office since JFK, and he wasn't THAT liberal!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wyldwolf
(43,869 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scotch-Irish
(464 posts)Certainly not Obama or Clinton.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wyldwolf
(43,869 posts)Assault weapons ban, Family and Medical Leave Act, SCHIP, gay marriage, Affordable Care Act, Stimulus bill?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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wyldwolf
(43,869 posts)How can you even be taken seriously after that statement.
And you did nothing to actually address my reply to you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scotch-Irish
(464 posts)I'm a liberal. You're a conservative. Things look different to each of us.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wyldwolf
(43,869 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
1. A tax-cutter who championed across-the-board, top-to-bottom reductions in corporate tax rates.
2. Suspicious of welfare, "I do not believe that Washington should do for the people what they can do for themselves through local and private effort."
3. A Cold War anticommunist who aggressively increased military spending.
I am not a liberal at all, Kennedy once told the Saturday Evening Post. Im not comfortable with those people. Journalist and JFK insider Ben Bradlee confirmed it. He hated the liberals.
When young, wealthy, and conservative John Fitzgerald Kennedy announced for Congress, many people wondered why, it began. Hardly a liberal even by his own standards, Kennedy is mainly concerned by what appears to him as the coming struggle between collectivism and capitalism. In speech after speech he charges his audience to battle for the old ideas with the same enthusiasm that people have for new ideas.
Eleanor Roosevelt was asked in a TV interview whom she would support if forced to choose between a conservative Democrat like Kennedy and a liberal Republican [like] Rockefeller. FDRs widow, then as now a progressive icon, answered that she would do all she could to make sure Kennedy wouldnt be the partys nominee.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2013/10/19/would-jfk-never-liberal-still-find-home-democratic-party/ZrxV7lJYHrvWxOjXItAuZJ/story.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/08/the-new-new-left-is-no-new-frontier-and-jfk-was-no-liberal.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Kennedy's two shining stars was he launched the Space Race and he talked about Civil Rights for Blacks and like Ike, used the National Guard to stand down racist southern governors, although it was LBJ that did the massive lifting on Civil Rights.
Other than those two things, he was pretty conservative.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dsc
(52,166 posts)in 2016 Cooper won by 10k votes out of 4 million votes cast while Hillary lost by a bit over 3%. Sanders will lose by 10 here with Trump getting at least 53 compared to his 49 in 2016. Cooper can't overcome that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Like Bernie, they view us as the enemy tolerable only because they are forced to tolerate us.
Maybe they need a massive wakeup call, the problem is that comes with severe damage to the country.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Codeine
(25,586 posts)I line up more closely with Bernie than any other candidate, so its not his positions that bother me. His temperament, competence, demeanor, and executive decision-making abilities are what fail to impress me. Hes simply not presidential material in my opinion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lunabell
(6,105 posts)I have NEVER considered voting third party. I have always supported the democratic candidates. Shame on those who won't give a progressive candidate a chance. Let the people speak.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Qutzupalotl
(14,327 posts)Without that, all his policies are meaningless and all his hard work is for nothing.
To me, this is not a wish list election. This is a restore-the-norms election. The foundations of our democratic republic are under attack, and I want someone who will strengthen them. Foreign actors are attacking truth itself; without agreed-upon truths, democracy cannot function. Our allies are doubting us; I want someone who will reassure them we are back.
Clearly Trump and Putin are afraid of Biden and welcome running against Sanders.
More than anything, I want to win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,871 posts)And everyone will have to deal with the consequences of that one way or another.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)But it will take unity.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)Out of the two viable alternatives (sorry, third party folks, but that's just the way it is), that candidate is going to be the one running on the Democratic ticket.
Don't matter to me if that person is far-left progressive or corporate centrist -- the Democrat will be MOST CLOSELY aligned with my priorities and values, and so they get my vote.
I don't care if they used to be a Republican.
I don't care if they voted for the Iraq War.
I don't care if they took PAC money.
I don't care if they insulted my preferred candidate earlier in the process.
The time to care about all that that was during the primaries. But on the day of the General Election: I HAVE ONE JOB.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden