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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
1. Thank you JFK... what a great endorsement of Bernie's M4A plan!!
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 07:29 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
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George II

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4. I thought it was Sanders' idea? BTW, Sanders was in his early 20s when JFK made that speech.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 07:35 PM
Feb 2020
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
14. Oh, no - Ted Kennedy was fighting for single payer when Bernie was in still in Vermont
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 11:03 PM
Feb 2020

working odd jobs.

Ted said one of the biggest regrets of his career was saying "single payer or nothing" and walking away from the table with Nixon, who was proposing a health reform plan to the left of the ACA.

He modified it and introduced it in 2006:

Introduced by Sen. Ted Kennedy as S. 1218 to the 109th Congress (2005-2006)

Details of the Medicare for All Act
The Medicare for All Act would gradually expand healthcare coverage to cover all citizens and documented residents in the country. Benefits under the program would be phased in by age under this schedule:

First 5 years: covers legal residents under age 20 and over age 55;
Next 5 years: covers under age 30 and over age 45;
11th year: covers all citizens and legal residents.


https://www.healthcare-now.org/legislation/medicare-for-all-act-kennedy-dingell/
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ehrnst

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13. Ya do know that JFK died in '63, and Bernie was 'nauseated' by JFK, right
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 10:56 PM
Feb 2020


Bernie was in college when JFK died, Hon. He hadn't even started thinking about no MFA.... or hadn't even skeedaddled off from the civil rights movement to live in rural Vermont yet...

And it was that LBJ who got that there Medicare and Medicaid up an runnin' - Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton got free CHIP health insurance for low income kiddos in the '90s.

Bernie was awe-iinspired by Ted's 2006 Medicare for All Act, in which he got down and modified single payer, showin' that he plumb learned from the past, unlike some of them others!

https://www.healthcare-now.org/legislation/medicare-for-all-act-kennedy-dingell/


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msongs

(67,420 posts)
2. bernie getting his plans from the epitome of the democratic establishment nt
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 07:34 PM
Feb 2020
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George II

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3. Too bad Sanders' was "physically nauseated" by JFK:
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 07:34 PM
Feb 2020
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
11. Video:
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 10:43 PM
Feb 2020
&feature=emb_title

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IronLionZion

(45,462 posts)
5. And Truman called for national health insurance
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 07:43 PM
Feb 2020

Johnson got us Medicare for elderly



We should call for M4A since we're going to compromise down to a public option that our moderates want anyway.

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uponit7771

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6. None of those people promised 20 million jobs to pay for UHC
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 07:46 PM
Feb 2020
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wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
7. Nope! This was in support of the King-Anderson bill... Medicare. Not "MFA."
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 07:49 PM
Feb 2020

"health care for the aged."

The same video is in the link below. Notice the tag on that one actually says 'Medicare.' And it isn't an edited 3 minute version like the one in the OP.

Nice try, though.


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2013/11/john-f-kennedys-health-care-failure-jfk-and-barack-obamas-tough-fights-to-reform-health-care.html

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ehrnst

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9. Yes, and Ted Kennedy tried single payer '71, & blew any chance we had for starting the process then
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 10:41 PM
Feb 2020

when he walked away from the table with Nixon, because Dems said single payer or nothing.

Nixon was offering something to the left of the ACA.

Kennedy said it was one of the biggest regrets of his career, because we could have had something way closer to what Canada has.

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wyldwolf

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10. Kennedy was not endorsing MFA in this video.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 10:42 PM
Feb 2020
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ehrnst

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12. The OP was comparing JFK and Sanders, and Sanders is MFA/single payer or bust.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 10:54 PM
Feb 2020

Also, JFK was talking about the UK, which had started on Single Payer 30 years prior.

My response was more to the headline of the OP than what JFK was saying.

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Rhiannon12866

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15. So did Jimmy Carter
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:48 AM
Feb 2020

He worked very hard to craft a workable comprehensive plan, but Ted Kennedy, who was challenging him for the nomination at the time, came up with his own plan which was dismissed as being way too expensive. So, as Carter has said, it took 40 years for just part of his original plan to be implemented (ACA). He talks about this in his autobiography.

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