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Biden Says Over 150 Million Americans Killed By Gun Violence Since 2007, Which Would Be Half Of U.S.
https://www.newsweek.com/biden-says-over-150-million-americans-killed-gun-violence-since-2007-which-would-third-us-1489115While discussing gun control during Tuesday's Democratic debate in Charleston, South Carolina, former Vice President Joe Biden misquoted statistics about how many Americans had been killed by gun violence since 2007.
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"150 million people have been killed since 2007 when Bernie voted to exempt the gun manufacturers from liability," Biden added. "More than all the wars including Vietnam from that point on."
Data from the National Archives indicates that 58,220 U.S. soldiers were killed during the Vietnam War. Roughly over 7,000 U.S. soldiers were killed in action during military actions in the Middle East, according to the Department of Defense.
With the U.S. Census Bureau reporting a population of 327.2 million people in the country in 2018, Biden's figure would equate to approximately one half of the current U.S. population being killed by gun violence since 2007.
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Biden Says Over 150 Million Americans Killed By Gun Violence Since 2007, Which Would Be Half Of U.S. (Original Post)
USALiberal
Feb 2020
OP
Maybe it's strategy? Reagan said all kinds of crazy stuff and it worked for him. Twice.
Hassler
Feb 2020
#9
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)1. Meh, everyone misspeaks sometimes
Some of these 'gotcha' things are just dumb.
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PatSeg
(47,563 posts)2. I agree
Best to stay with really pertinent issues.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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H2O Man
(73,583 posts)3. I agree.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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mcar
(42,368 posts)4. It's a long campaign
They all get tired. Even the youngest, Mayor Pete, is under the weather.
They all deserve a bit of slack.
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BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)5. It's a gotcha if he was asked the statistic.
He came prepared with it. Just wrong.
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OhZone
(3,212 posts)6. CAPS LOCK means it's
Cereal!1!!!!!
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USALiberal
(10,877 posts)7. Newsweek did the caps, complain to them! Nt
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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TwilightZone
(25,473 posts)10. Or you could spend five seconds fixing it.
Browser plugins exist to proper case text. It takes literally five seconds.
Example: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/change-case/lpakoahdokkkonadfppfgmednkknpgbm?hl=en
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David__77
(23,468 posts)8. These things happen.
...
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Hassler
(3,384 posts)9. Maybe it's strategy? Reagan said all kinds of crazy stuff and it worked for him. Twice.
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NoMoreRepugs
(9,453 posts)11. In other news VP Biden once seen not covering his
mouth when sneezing!!
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George II
(67,782 posts)14. I hear he forgot to wipe once, too!
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Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)12. These things happen. He is no dotard.
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George II
(67,782 posts)13. A takeoff of Biden's comments about the ACA, this is NOT a "big fucking deal". What else you got?
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uponit7771
(90,348 posts)15. Really ?
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BilltheCat
(65 posts)16. Caps locks? Seriously??
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USALiberal
(10,877 posts)20. Cut and pasted from Newsweek. Nt
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Turbineguy
(37,362 posts)17. All of the candidates are working long hours.
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W_HAMILTON
(7,871 posts)18. He meant 150 thousand.
https://gun-control.procon.org/us-gun-deaths-by-year/
From 2007 to 2016 (latest year available), there were ~120k homicides by gun; this is an average of ~12k/year. Add ~12k for each year from 2017 to 2019 to that ~120k total and you get ~156k homicides by gun since 2007 when Sanders voted to exempt the gun manufacturers from liability.
He obviously misspoke, but people make mistakes like that all the time. It's one reason I'm in favor of not reciting specific numbers and things like that in debates because it doesn't really serve a purpose and people are prone to make a mistake like this, which only serves to detract from the point at hand. Just say more Americans have been killed by guns here in America since 2007 when Sanders voted to exempt the gun manufacturers from liability than in every war combined since Vietnam. It makes the (correct) point without confusing the message with an unnecessary specific number.
From 2007 to 2016 (latest year available), there were ~120k homicides by gun; this is an average of ~12k/year. Add ~12k for each year from 2017 to 2019 to that ~120k total and you get ~156k homicides by gun since 2007 when Sanders voted to exempt the gun manufacturers from liability.
He obviously misspoke, but people make mistakes like that all the time. It's one reason I'm in favor of not reciting specific numbers and things like that in debates because it doesn't really serve a purpose and people are prone to make a mistake like this, which only serves to detract from the point at hand. Just say more Americans have been killed by guns here in America since 2007 when Sanders voted to exempt the gun manufacturers from liability than in every war combined since Vietnam. It makes the (correct) point without confusing the message with an unnecessary specific number.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)19. Thanks for info! Nt
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Blue_true
(31,261 posts)21. His campaign said that he misspoke. A non issue, move on. nt
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