Why won't Bernie make his medical records public?

[redstateblues]

Is it his heart or just something embarrassing

[Moderateguy]

1. He's hiding his family history of male pattern baldness

[DanTex]

2. He did.

[sheshe2]

4. He didn't.

[DanTex]

5. LOL.

[sheshe2]

6. LOL

[hlthe2b]

7. NO. He most certainly HAS NOT. He released a summary letter, like Trump did--not records

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/19/us/politics/bernie-sanders-health.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/19/bernie-sanders-wont-release-more-medical-records-after-all/

[OnDoutside]

9. 2nd time you repeated that falsehood today.

[DanTex]

12. It's not a falsehood. He released his health records.

No amount of anti-Bernie attacks will change that. Sorry.

[Docreed2003]

15. It's not an antiBernie attack

To be severely concerned about the fact that a candidate for President had a heart attack severe enough to require stent placement less than six months ago. Having a letter from a doctor saying "he's good to go" isn't sufficient. What is his left ventricular ejection fraction after this? I'm sure he's had an echocardiogram and knows the results. Why would he play coy with this? This isn't about tearing down Bernie, it's about the people having the right to know if they're nominating someone who has a significant risk for being incapacitated by a major medical event.

[DanTex]

18. He released his health records. It's an anti Bernie attack to claim otherwise.

Doctors take letters like that very seriously, trying to pretend otherwise is just a false smear. He released his health records.

[Docreed2003]

19. What's his EF? Again it's not addressed in his letter

And you know very well that a letter doesn't equate to a medical record. Also, I know full well what goes into writing such letters because I write them as a physician. You can say he's released a summary, or a letter of support from his doctor but it's not his medical record. It's just not. It's not a smear just because you don't care for what's being said...this is a very real issue.

[TwilightZone]

20. You clearly have no clue what "health records" are

or you're being intentionally obtuse.

The assertion that health records and a couple of letters from a doctor are interchangeable is laughable.

[Jedi Guy]

23. Except that's not the case, and simply asserting it repeatedly doesn't make it true.

This is essentially like applying for a loan, and, as proof of creditworthiness, supplying a letter from some rando at one's bank saying, "Yeah, he's totally good for a loan." It conveys no useful information beyond some person's opinion, and certainly doesn't convey the sort of information one might expect from a credit report.

It's also worth noting, I think, that Trump did the same thing. He showed up with a letter from some rando that more or less said, "This orange guy is super healthy, and in fact, would be the healthiest person ever elected to the Presidency."

Given that Sanders could vapor-lock well before his first term is over, his choice for VP takes on enormous significance. But quite apart from that, the voting public should be informed as to the state of Bernie's health. His refusal to do so does him no favors, and only invites speculation as to what those records might show.

[hlthe2b]

28. Medical records are not a simple letter summary. I proved to you with NYT and WAPO links that

Bernie has reneged on his promise. You are losing all credibility by insisting otherwise.

[OnDoutside]

37. He released letters, a la Trump's Dr Bornstein. Refuses to release his full records.

Washington(CNN)The health of the presidential candidates gained attention this week when Sen. Bernie Sanders said his campaign likely will not release his full medical records despite previously committing to do so.


What Sanders said he'd do

Sanders committed to disclosing his full medical records in September. The next month he had a heart attack. In December, Sanders' campaign released three letters from physicians attesting to his heart health, in an attempt to address concerns about his fitness to serve.

In an October interview with Gupta after his heart attack, Sanders indicated again that he would release his medical records, saying: "The people do have a right to know about the health of a senator, somebody who's running for president of the United States -- full disclosure."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/21/politics/sanders-medical-records-bloomberg-fact-check/index.html

But this is not news to you.

[mcar]

25. He did not

Try harder.

[Dem Femme Fatale]

3. Simple

So you can start the 100th thread on the same topic that's been brought up numerous times.

I think he should, just as Bloomberg and Dumb Dumb Donnie should release their full taxes.

[redstateblues]

11. As if most of the topics here haven't been hashed over hundreds of times

There’s one poster that has been posting “Why doesn’t everybody love Bernie” threads numerous times every day. I must have missed the answer to Bernie’s health. I noticed you didn’t answer why he’s hiding it. It’s a pretty important topic since Bernie is the front runner.

[HarlanPepper]

16. Whataboutism

That’s a 10 yard penalty from the spot of the foul. Repeat first down.

[Dem Femme Fatale]

21. Aww

You can post a gif.

That's cute.

PS. I'm more of a Mahomes kinda woman.

[highplainsdem]

8. Most likely because his full records show his heart is damaged, and perhaps he's in

the early stages of hearet failure.

IF the full medical records about his heart attack and recovery were reassuring, we'd have seen them by now.

[Orrex]

10. 100% this

If he doesn't release them, then he is in essence confirming the worst-case concerns about his health. There is simply no upside to withholding them.

The only thing it gains is that his supporters can once again cry persecution. I've seen it online many times already.

Trump and Bloomberg should absolutely release their returns, as others here have noted. But whether they do or don't, Sanders should release his health records. Otherwise he's hiding something (even if he isn't).

[Dem Femme Fatale]

17. ...

Newsflash

If you are 78, by definition, you are in failing health. Everyone by the time they hit 33-35 is degrading physically.

No one is surprised that the septuagenarian landscape of this race is not guaranteed minute to minute.

There'd be damage assuredly given the recency & the proceeding procedure.

It's a gotcha talking point. If people are genuinely concerned then they'd press for a VP name to evaluate the ticket. Otherwise, it's just hot air and team cheerleading to score soft support points.

[doc03]

13. I guess for similar reasons Trump won't either nt

[OliverQ]

14. Why won't Biden?

Since apparently releasing records is no longer a big deal, why should Dems do something Republicans don't have to do?

[TwilightZone]

22. "why should Dems do something Republicans don't have to do?"

We probably shouldn't use Republicans as our baseline.

"Everybody else does it" just sounds childish and evasive.

[OliverQ]

26. I'm tired of Dems being held to a higher standard

when it never makes any difference.

[revmclaren]

29. It's very simple... Democrats HAVE a higher standard.

It's the very definition of a Democrat and a liberal.

Why is this so hard to understand.



ONLY!!! 2020 and beyond.

[NurseJackie]

32. So the lowest common denominator is okay with you?

Interesting.

[mcar]

24. He promised to do so

Same with his taxes.

This is all too familiar.

[Kablooie]

27. I'd rather he release Trump's taxes.

[NurseJackie]

31. Things are worse than we've been led the believe...

... we are being deceived. What are they hiding and why? American voters deserve to know the truth. That's fair.

[bamagal62]

33. I'm not a big Bernie

Fan. But, I think that we shouldn’t do anything Trump doesn’t do. No medical records from Trump, no medical records from us. No tax returns from Trump, no tax returns from us. And, by us, I mean Democrats.

[Jedi Guy]

34. That's childish, unproductive, and hypocritical.

Pointing fingers and crying petulantly, "He didn't do the thing so I'm not doing the thing either!" is not a good look. Trump's refusal to release any records naturally leads to a logical conclusion: he's hiding something. Probably several somethings. If the Democratic nominee (whoever it ends up being) does the same, it leads to the same conclusion, and looks immature to boot. You can't condemn someone for doing X, and then turn around and do X oneself.

A better tactic would be to release records and proclaim far and wide, "Unlike Trump, I have nothing to hide from the American people and am committed to honesty and transparency. This is what Americans can expect from me and my future administration."

[redstateblues]

35. There you go!

[LizBeth]

36. Sadners has to be hiding something because if stuff looked good, they would be out there.

Just what we people do. We like to brag about our good health, it is strength. We do not like to show a weakness. This ahs to be a weakness.

[BigBoss26]

38. Eh, I wasn't a fan of the Hillary health "concerns" from Repubs in 2016...

and I'm not a fan of our side doing it now. I get this place isn't big on Sanders, he's not my pick either, but this kinda stuff feels gross.