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Kerrycrat

(159 posts)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:58 PM Feb 2020

Pete's rules of the road

Are sometimes very hard to follow.

I listed my reasons for liking Pete after someone posted a meme identifying him as a “BBQ Becky” without acknowledging the implications of calling him a racist.

This was on Facebook.

Well they ended up calling him that and more: lying, not honest (what would be the difference?), sold out corporate shill, morally vacant jag off.

I posted the twitter thread the shows Pete’s support from people of color. And managed to escape without calling him names.

But now both my heart and brain hurt.




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Pete's rules of the road (Original Post) Kerrycrat Feb 2020 OP
Sometimes it can be tough to not lash out in return. relayerbob Feb 2020 #1
Thanks Kerrycrat Feb 2020 #3
oops I just posted a long note replying to your original post relayerbob Feb 2020 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Kerrycrat Feb 2020 #2
Welcome to DU. Laelth Feb 2020 #4
ignore them, unless you are in a position to instantly hand them their arse on a platter when Celerity Feb 2020 #5
I posted this on FB to my page and got positive responses relayerbob Feb 2020 #6
 

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
1. Sometimes it can be tough to not lash out in return.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:08 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kerrycrat

(159 posts)
3. Thanks
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:20 PM
Feb 2020

I’ve been wandering into the Warren group occasionally over there. Telling them to keep their head up. Saying between her and Bernie I prefer Warren. She has plans where Bernie has few substantial ones for implementation anyway. The Bernie supporters put them down to, acting like Bernie has already won, three contests in. I call myself their token Pete person. She is my #2

Even so, I’ll vote blue no matter who.

But Bernie’s supporters make it hard sometimes

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
7. oops I just posted a long note replying to your original post
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:36 PM
Feb 2020

Was supposed to be here, but no matter

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Kerrycrat (Original post)

 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
4. Welcome to DU.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:21 PM
Feb 2020

And thanks for fighting the good fight.

Politics is a full-contact sport, but it is a team sport, and I am honored to have you on the team.



-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,408 posts)
5. ignore them, unless you are in a position to instantly hand them their arse on a platter when
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:22 PM
Feb 2020

they post easily and instantly debunked bollocks like that fucking lie that Buttigieg funded the Iowa app. I STILL see that shite posted even here on DU.

Pete did NOT invest in that app, he simply use the vendor for other logistical services involving text messaging. This lie that he helped developed the app or funded it was bullshit spun up by the usual suspects on the radical left who constantly smear and lie about most all of the other candidates. It came from the same environs who lied and spread disinfo (just one example) that Zuckerberg was running Buttigiegs campaign all because a long ago ex FB employee and a woman who never worked at FB asked Zuckerberg and his wife to send over their CV's to his campaign because they (along with hundreds if not thousands of others) want to work for it.


Pete Buttigieg campaign did not pay for Iowa Caucus app

https://apnews.com/afs:Content:8464590602

CLAIM: Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg’s campaign funded the creation of the app that was used to tally votes during the Iowa Caucus.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Buttigieg’s campaign paid the company that created the app that failed during the Iowa Caucus for different technology services.

THE FACTS: Social media posts are claiming that Buttigieg’s campaign either funded or created the app used during the Iowa Caucus that was the cause of major delay in voting results.

Buttigieg’s campaign paid Shadow Inc., the company behind the Iowa Caucus app, $42,500 in July for text messaging software, campaign finance records show. The software was not related to that developed for the Iowa Caucus.

In addition, the Buttigieg campaign did not help develop the app used in Iowa, a campaign spokesman confirmed Tuesday to the AP.

Other candidates and Democratic parties, including Vice President Joe Biden, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand and the Texas Democratic Party have also contracted with Shadow Inc. in the past for services similar to those purchased by the Buttigieg campaign, federal campaign finance data shows.

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
6. I posted this on FB to my page and got positive responses
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:35 PM
Feb 2020

I have avoided expressing my political preferences very much in the primary so far, for two main reasons: 1 - Supporting candidate A doesn't require dissing candidate B, and all too often, that's how these discussions end. We are all allies and need to act as such. I am proud of the huge depth of potential candidates the Democratic Party has offered up, and all would be superior to the crackpot that currently resides in the WH. Full disclosure: I have donated substantially to all of the major candidates. 2 - I think the primary processes are too long and byzantine, and leads to 24/7/365 campaigns for office, which IMO, does not help in governing the country in the least.

I do, however, think it is time for the field to tighten up and defragment.

To that end, I am asking everyone to read my little essay, especially all my many friends in California (since a plurality of them live there and Super Tuesday is coming fast) and to seriously consider Elizabeth Warren for your vote. I have gone back and forth and have debated the merits of all of them, and truly believe she is the best candidate for the office of President that we have had in a long time. As a political junkie and activist since 1976, I feel qualified to make this observation. I actually wanted her to run in 2015 before she opted out. Please also refer to her website, and her bio articles. I endorse Elizabeth Warren for the following reasons:

1 - Liz has a long record of successfully fighting corruption, starting with her fighting unfair bankruptcy laws, resulting in the laws restricting the ability of corporations to force individuals into bankruptcy. She helped create and run the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. She fought strongly for more stringent banking regulations after the 2008 crash. One of her main themes of her Presidential run is to remove the corruption that permeates Washington - once and for all! She has made it clear she WILL hold law-breakers in the government accountable for their actions, and will pursue criminal and civil charges as required. Her considered, rational and devastating take-down of Mike Bloomberg in the last debate shows she will not flinch when it comes to calling out Donald Trump, in public, during the General Election campaign.

2 - She is a strongly Pragmatic Progressive, who wants to tax the wealthy on their fortunes to fund the massive structural improvements in climate change, universal health care, education, child care, consumer protection, voting rights, labor laws and other items on her agenda that she proposes. She understands and advocates common sense, shared, team approaches to problem solving and has repeatedly proven herself as a leader who can be trusted to listen to the experts, as well as the layman, and make the right decisions. She doesn't believe that government should control everything, just regulate and tax corporations and the wealthy appropriately, so that the economy can work for everyone fairly. She believes in science!! Wouldn't that be a nice change?

3 - Liz is one of most intelligent people to have ever run for President, having taught law at various Universities including bankruptcy and contract law at Harvard University, and has written five books, coauthored a number of others, as well as authored many articles. She will appoint intelligent and fair judges to the Supreme Court and lower courts.

4 - She has extensive experience in foreign affairs, having served on the Committee on Armed Services, and travelled to Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere. This article from CNN outlines her positions rather well: https: //www.cnn.com/2020/01/10/politics/elizabeth-warren-foreign-policy/index.html (link broken on purpose, just remove the space after https . She supports our Veterans and wants to put in place rational, multilateral and multi-national solutions to terror and international conflict.

5 -She has a goal of reducing domestic gun violence by 80% by removing the NRAs ability to block legislation and put in place gun buyback programs, as well as funding research into the root causes of gun violence that has been stymied by the GOP for decades. She also supports common sense laws that aim to reduce gun deaths, much as previous era leaders reduced automotive deaths.

6 - She is the most well-positioned to be able to unify the various wings of the Democratic Party and lead us to the victory we all need, not only in the race for the Presidency, but in the down-ticket races for the Senate, which we MUST retake and in the House of Representatives, which we must not lose.

7 - While I am not one who cares much about endorsement, she has them from Julian Castro, the Working Families Party, Alicia Garza - the co-founder of Black Lives Matter, Robert Reich, countless current and former politicians and celebrities, and a wide variety of media outlets.

So, please join me in supporting Elizabeth Warren. I have spent a lot of effort analyzing all of the candidates, and truly believe she provides the best and most balanced approaches to solving our country's and the world's many crises, and will be able to put together the most effective coalitions, both nationally and internationally, to combat climate change, massive wealth inequality and never-ending wars. In my opinion, she has the experience, temperament, broadly-based appeal and the detailed plans required to lead us in the post-Trump mess we will find ourselves in come Jan 20, 2021.

She details these plans and many others on her website, https://elizabethwarren.com/ (just bypass the donation page, for now, but if you want to support her financially, please join us!)

Thanks!




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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