Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumThe One Percent Is So Happy To See Elizabeth And Bernie Lose Ground
They don't want no stinkin' revolution.
A next to nothing tax status is what really makes them happy.
Paying taxes is for the little people.
"Leona Helmsely died in 2007 at age 87, and some people may not know of her past prominence. In her heyday, she was as big as Donald Trump or Kim Kardashian. And she was colorful too. A billionaire, she was convicted of tax fraud that started with small and obvious acts of evasion. She had a harsh persona too, earning her the nickname the Queen of Mean.
During her tax evasion trial, a former employee testified that Helmsley said: We dont pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes. By we, she meant not only herself but her husband, New York tycoon Harry Helmsley."
Hey little friends, how do you like your place? Work your ass off, and give half your money to monopolies, or the guvvmint'. And if you get sick, you go bankrupt, and with our without insurance you die when THEY decide to not cover what you need if your treatment may cost them too much.
Amerikkkkkka!
I like Joe, Pete, Amy, and even Tom, and Mike too. Compared to Trump they are like Jesus and Ghandi combined. I am tired of being played like a fool, supposed to pay my taxes, and "come together" while my family is being robbed, and my planet is being destroyed in the name of profit.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
msongs
(67,417 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Don't think they ever made more than maybe $125K/year between them and even that was late in their careers.
They're millionaires if you count the properties, which they bought long ago when property was reasonably priced. So happens ... they chose very wisely in that regard.
My mom still cuts coupons and won't pay full price for anything. I remember them buying maybe 4 brand new cars in my entire life and one of those was a Capri in like 1975. All the rest were used. I bet my mom doesn't own a piece of jewelry worth >$500. Doubt she's ever had a purse or shoes that cost over $120.
Point being ... being a millionaire doesn't mean you live high on the hog or that you should be faulted for it. My folks worked their freaking asses off for 40+ years and went without on the regular and saved their pennies instead.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)I read on DU in 1985 a father would have to work 30 weeks to make enough to pay for a families expenses for the year. Now he would have to work 53 weeks. What is different? The 1% is grinding us down harder.
I wold hope if my wife and I worked our asses off till our 70's we could afford a couple houses.
The problem is how few Americans can get ahead when they are being crushed by the 1%.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Housing is always a bad example because there's a fixed supply. Increasing everybody's income doesn't change the fact that we just haven't built enough houses over the past 50 years because homeowners lobby their cities and counties to keep their own house prices high.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)An unremarkable family home in Vermont, a VERY modest D.C. residence which he is required to have as a Senator, and a humble lakeside cottage that was inherited.
This line of attack only shows your desperation.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)He's also done well with real estate (especially the property purchased after his book deal), but no one can claim a Senator is "required" to have a DC residence, much less one that is owned rather than rented.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)You know what I meant, that it's necessary for him to have a residence. He's there for several months a year.
Have you seen Bernie's DC rowhouse? Well I'm sure you have. Modest is an understatement.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)He took a train home to Delaware every day.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimfields33
(15,823 posts)Last edited Fri Feb 28, 2020, 11:42 AM - Edit history (1)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Simply stating Biden does A does not imply Sanders should. That's some irrational baggage you got trailin' close behind your premise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimfields33
(15,823 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)And there is the option of RENTING.
You said there is a requirement to live in DC and that's false.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)SS made him get rid of the apartment when he started getting protection. And Biden had one house which he was about to sell to pay for the cancer treatment for his son when Obama stepped in an helped him...so please. It is OK to have three houses but it is not OK to play the poor guy vs the 1% when you are the the 1%.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doremus
(7,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NNadir
(33,525 posts)I'm very fond of Ms. Warren though. She has the ability to reflect on things and change her mind based on data.
I'd be fine with seeing her gain ground.
This is very unlike the other guy who is actually proud of never having changed his mind on anything since the 1960's. Trump left is better, but not all that much better, than Trump right. Both are inflexible and dogmatic.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)Sanders. Because it is not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NNadir
(33,525 posts)Ms. Warren is also very much an intellectual whereas Mr. Sanders is just a tired old crank.
She is about half a century younger than Mr. Sanders, in terms of having a flexible mind.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,065 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)Warren, they clearly have an issue with. She gets things done. Pragmatic and tenacious.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RandySF
(58,900 posts)Or is it the 2#?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,537 posts)What's your point?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Berniesbiggestfan
(4 posts)Cheap talking points when you can't debate from a position of strength.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)millionaire. Biden never had the money Sanders has until he left congress and made some...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)is the best figurehead for a s-called revolution... if he's suckering them, than is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wiley
(2,921 posts)We all love Warren. Hopefully Biden will pick her as his running mate. Or as a member of his cabinet.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)One house I barely can afford but a loving wife and daughter.
I'm happy Joe Biden will be the next President.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LexVegas
(6,067 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jose Garcia
(2,598 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
"The front runner should just drop out."
These posts crack me up.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lostnfound
(16,183 posts)She has a compelling personal middle America history, is a little less polarizing, and would have moderated in the general. Taking it away from a frontrunning woman at that stage would have been such bad PR.
Elizabeth was ignored at critical times by the media, and downplayed. If Bernie gets less than 50%, the superdelegates will give it to a moderate.
Bloomberg hates her so much, I wonder if just dividing the vote enough into little pieces to throw it to the superdelegates is part of the role.
If Bernie gets nomination, I will fight for him, but Im afraid the end game here is going to be a big mess.
If the nomination gets taken from a front-running Bernie at the convention, the Democratic Party will be in an uproar, and our nominee will be weakened by the injustice of it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)I want to pay my taxes and not have it go for Trump f'ing wall...we must defeat Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(50,955 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,733 posts)I'm happy to see Sanders lose ground because he'd likely get his ass handed to him in the GE and would be an ineffective and divisive president if he actually won. Warren has actual plans, not pie in the sky that can't be accounted for; she could win, and she'd be a fine president if she did.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)shellacking that will happen in Nov.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,154 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)and I don't want a "revolution" either. Bernie's supporters act like if Bernie got elected all of a sudden everybody would be instantly rich.
Laws need to be passed. Good luck with that without either one of the Senate or House. Depending on where the economy is headed some would never pass. There is this thing called a budget. Free M4A, student loans wiped out, free college = tens of trillions of dollars.
Idealism is cool. Political extremes are not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hack89
(39,171 posts)And I am very happy both are fading.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)So are you saying he's happy to see himself losing ground?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AGeddy
(509 posts)Liz would make a great President.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
What has happened to the middle class and poor at the hands of the rich has made me desire the political revolution. A Corporatocracy is one of the worst forms of government, and we are well on our way there.
I wouldnt even mind paying more taxes if if meant affordable prescriptions and health care.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden