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boston bean

(36,221 posts)
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 11:05 AM Feb 2020

It is who has gets the require amount of delegates at the convention that will be or nominee.

Last edited Fri Feb 28, 2020, 11:37 AM - Edit history (1)

It is not who has a plurality.

Each candidate has delegates.

If on first round no one reaches the threshold it goes to a second where everyone becomes unpledged.

Candidates then will direct their delegates as to who they wish to receive the delegates.

Those delegates will follow along mostly with that direction. A concensus will begin to emerge.

Then the person will have a majority and I can assure you that whoever that person is will be the nominee, and superdelegates will take their queue from that concensus no matter who it is.

Sanders supporters are focusing on wrong group of people. They need to be trying to woo delegates of other candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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It is who has gets the require amount of delegates at the convention that will be or nominee. (Original Post) boston bean Feb 2020 OP
Instead they insult them and worse. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #1
+1 Cha Feb 2020 #20
Thank you Cha. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #21
Correct. And hopefully the superdelegates are wise enough to respect the will of the voters. DanTex Feb 2020 #2
If your candidate is that skilled and persuasive Codeine Feb 2020 #3
He certainly has been persuading the voters, he's leading all the polls. DanTex Feb 2020 #4
Superdelegates may not be enough. Codeine Feb 2020 #8
We'll see! Either they respect the will of the voters, or the party will fracture. DanTex Feb 2020 #10
"Respect the will of the voters, or the party will fracture." ehrnst Feb 2020 #13
"Hopefully the superdelegates will respect the will of the voters. But we'll see." ehrnst Feb 2020 #15
It ought to be able to get to 51%! It's a revolution! Squinch Feb 2020 #7
Great post! I have been busy today and missed it until now. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #22
Correct. 65-75% of voters do not want Bernie. aeromanKC Feb 2020 #11
It does not follow. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #16
If the DNC doesn't follow the rules as they currently are showblue22 Feb 2020 #5
"They need to be trying to woo delegates of other candidates", not piss them off. George II Feb 2020 #6
He spends a career running down the Democratic Party Codeine Feb 2020 #9
It who would gets had also be. NT. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #12
Framing aluminum grape jelly is not upward NT LanternWaste Feb 2020 #17
??? ehrnst Feb 2020 #18
+1000. ehrnst Feb 2020 #14
One want so say what we had treestar Feb 2020 #19
 

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
1. Instead they insult them and worse. n/t
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 11:07 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
21. Thank you Cha. n/t
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 06:31 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
2. Correct. And hopefully the superdelegates are wise enough to respect the will of the voters.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 11:07 AM
Feb 2020

Otherwise, the party will fracture, and Trump will get re-elected.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
3. If your candidate is that skilled and persuasive
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 11:09 AM
Feb 2020

then surely he can make the case and get the delegates needed, right? Easy-peasy lemon squeezy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
4. He certainly has been persuading the voters, he's leading all the polls.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 11:10 AM
Feb 2020

Hopefully the superdelegates will respect the will of the voters. But we'll see.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
8. Superdelegates may not be enough.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 11:13 AM
Feb 2020

He will probably have to peel off other candidates’ delegates before they switch elsewhere. One assumes anyone capable of taking on the mantle of POTUS can handle the simple act of coalition building at a convention, yes?

You seem awfully worried that he can’t close the deal.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
10. We'll see! Either they respect the will of the voters, or the party will fracture.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 11:15 AM
Feb 2020

It's weird that supporters of other candidates seem to have given up on actually trying to get more votes than Bernie. Why is that?

It's simple. If a candidate wants the nomination, go out and get people to vote for him/her!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
13. "Respect the will of the voters, or the party will fracture."
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:10 PM
Feb 2020

So, calling for a brokered convention is calling for the "fracture of the party?" Like when a candidate who does so when "they have given up trying to get more votes" than the front runner?

“I am not a great fan of superdelegates, but their job is to take an objective look at reality. And I think the reality is that we are the stronger candidate.”

On May 29, 2016, Sanders said superdelegates had the “very grave responsibility to make sure that Trump [is not] elected president of the United States. Vote for the strongest candidate.

And even as Clinton secured the Democratic nomination the following week, Sanders continued to push for superdelegates to vote to override Clinton’s pledged delegate majority.

Told on June 7, 2016, that his superdelegate convention push would defy history and the will of the voters, Sanders said, “Defying history is what this campaign has been about.””


Bernie Sanders pushed for a contested convention in 2016. Now he wants to avoid one. Feb 27, 2020.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
15. "Hopefully the superdelegates will respect the will of the voters. But we'll see."
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:29 PM
Feb 2020

"or the party will fracture."


“I am not a great fan of superdelegates, but their job is to take an objective look at reality. And I think the reality is that we are the stronger candidate.”

On May 29, 2016, Sanders said superdelegates had the “very grave responsibility to make sure that Trump [is not] elected president of the United States. Vote for the strongest candidate.

And even as Clinton secured the Democratic nomination the following week, Sanders continued to push for superdelegates to vote to override Clinton’s pledged delegate majority.

Told on June 7, 2016, that his superdelegate convention push would defy history and the will of the voters, Sanders said, “Defying history is what this campaign has been about.”


Bernie Sanders pushed for a contested convention in 2016. Now he wants to avoid one. Feb 27, 2020.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
7. It ought to be able to get to 51%! It's a revolution!
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 11:11 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
22. Great post! I have been busy today and missed it until now. n/t
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 06:32 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aeromanKC

(3,324 posts)
11. Correct. 65-75% of voters do not want Bernie.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 11:19 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. It does not follow.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:35 PM
Feb 2020

Your conclusion is not supported by facts at hand (not pretend-facts, not editorial, not anecdote, and not bumper stickers... I only say that as you sometimes seem to think they're all the same thing).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
5. If the DNC doesn't follow the rules as they currently are
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 11:10 AM
Feb 2020

There will be a revolt of moderates and Trump will be reelected.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. "They need to be trying to woo delegates of other candidates", not piss them off.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 11:11 AM
Feb 2020

One thing to remember, too, is that the majority of delegates are "establishment Democrats", including many of Sanders' delegates.

As Penny aptly tells Sheldon Cooper on "Big Bang Theory", don't piss off the person who serves your food!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
9. He spends a career running down the Democratic Party
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 11:14 AM
Feb 2020

and then professes to be shocked that he’s not gaining their support and goodwill.

Mad political skillz right there.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Voltaire2

(13,061 posts)
12. It who would gets had also be. NT.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 11:34 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
17. Framing aluminum grape jelly is not upward NT
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:37 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
14. +1000.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:12 PM
Feb 2020

The "my way or the highway" strategy doesn't really win friends and influence people.

An election is a popularity contest, after all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. One want so say what we had
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 02:35 PM
Feb 2020

Been hearing. I always thought it was dumb. But some deserve to hear: “Bernie has to earn my vote “

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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