Im saying it now. Who should Sanders VP be?

[mgcgulfcoast]

I would choose Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren myself.

[Freddie]

1. Amy

A moderate from the Midwest would balance the ticket plus she’s a lot younger.

[mgcgulfcoast]

3. A worthy choice.

[Freddie]

9. Plus a female

I think that will go a long way with those of us who want to see a woman POTUS in our lifetimes, since we were already cheated out of it.

[mgcgulfcoast]

2. I really dont think the election will be close.

320+ electoral votes.

[jimfields33]

10. Only 320 for Bernie

I think he may shock you with 400+

[mgcgulfcoast]

12. Nothing wrong with that.

[jimfields33]

13. It would be awesome 😎

[SDANation]

19. 🤣

[Celerity]

48. do tell (with an EC map please) how he gets to 320 whilst losing Florida

he has ZERO chance of beat Trump in Florida

so please show me 320 without FL


https://www.270towin.com/

you can make you map from that


here is my 'gun too my head atm' map if Sanders is the nominee

this is based of the economy not completely shitting out, which it may well do, and that aids our side, obviously

CO, NV, MN, NM, VA, MI are all far from certain, btw

Bernie is going to have 2 billion USD worth of insane COMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMIEE!!!!!!! pure hate adverts dropped 24-7 on him by Rump and the Rehugs

[Skittles]

4. Beto

[RKP5637]

5. Maybe Pete Buttigieg. n/t

[Celerity]

26. you must not have seen the continuous and raw pure hate Pete gets from the Sanderite social media

and rad left magazines, sites, and shows outside of DU. Think Sirota's twitter followers, The Young Turks, the DSA types, JPR, Jacobin, Current Affairs, and a million Twitter and FB trolls and bots.

It is pathological and viscous, often delving into open homophobia. Bernie's core non DU supporters would get vapours if he picked Pete. I highly doubt Buttigieg would accept it anyway.

example (and far, far from the worst)

'Racist' TYT reporter continues smear campaign against Buttigieg

https://orderofthecoif.wordpress.com/2019/10/25/racist-tyt-reporter-continues-smear-campaign-against-buttigieg/

The Young Turks today published the latest in a series of articles about Pete Buttigieg that they’ve characterised as “investigative reporting”. As will be shown in this article, these articles by Jonathan Larsen constitute nothing less than a sustained smear campaign that breaks all the basic rules of good, objective journalism. Mr Larsen consistently relies upon anonymous sources with suspect motivations, and often misleads his readers about the nature of documents on which he purports to rely.

The articles have also consistently pressed the most slanted and unfavourable interpretation against Mr Buttigieg, and relied substantially on innuendo and conspiracy theory dressed up as searching questions. The articles have sought to create an impression that Mr Buttigieg is engaging in racist policies or corrupt conduct, while failing to establish corroborated facts that actually support such an interpretation. This article will also set out Mr Larsen has questions to answer about his own conduct, which has been alleged in open court to include racist bullying, harassment and racial discrimination. Cenk Uygur should explain why a reporter credibly accused of racist conduct is allowed to continue on his staff while the issue remains unresolved.

Secret Tapes

The matter begins in January 2012 when Mr Buttigieg commenced his first term as Mayor of South Bend. Upon taking up a mayoralty, an Indiana mayor will determine who their chief of police shall be. The incumbent is not guaranteed to be appointed to continue under the new mayor. The incumbent chief in South Bend was Chief Darryl Boykins, an African-American police officer who enjoyed the confidence and respect of the community. Mr Buttigieg interviewed three candidates from the South Bend Police Department; Chief Boykins and division chiefs Steve Richmond and Tim Corbett. Mayor Buttigieg decided, based on his performance as chief and his good relations with the community, to reappoint Chief Boykins.

It has been alleged that six days after Mayor Buttigieg took office, on 6th January, 2012, Chief Boykins called division chief Richmond into his office and, “berated him for having been disloyal to him by seeking his job and for being a ‘backstabber'”. Chief Boykins also told Richmond that he had been wiretapping his and other senior officers phone lines, and that “he would fire anyone he determined to be disloyal”. It is also said that on 17th January, Richmond spoke to Karen DePaepe, SBPD Director of Communications, and asked her whether it was true that his line had been tapped. DePaepe responded that the chief requested a line tap “the day he promoted you to division chief”.

Richmond and other officers whose phone lines it transpired had been tapped by DePaepe at the request of the chief since 2010, went to the US Attorney for the Northern District of Indiana, a Democrat Mr David Capp (who was incidentally later fired by Donald Trump), to complain about the taps which they interpreted to be illegal breaches of their constitutional 4th amendment rights. The FBI commenced an investigation of Chief Boykins, and Mayor Buttigieg was informed. Prior to this the mayor was unaware of the existence of the tapes. The US Attorney informed the mayor that if Chief Boykins was quietly dispensed with as head of the SBPD, they would agree not to press charges.

snip


a lot more at the link, all documented, including the court documents showing the all The Young Turks and their reporter's alleged racism

[RKP5637]

45. Wow! Had absolutely no idea. How F'en vicious. n/t

[Celerity]

49. that example is child's play compared to much of what has been going on, unfortunately

It is exhausting to try and deal with. From lies like Pete funded the Iowas app, to Zuckerberg is running his campaign (outright pure smear lies) to far worse, it just wears a soul down to have dealt with it for a year straight or so.

some of them are still being posted here

an example that was posted here just 6 days ago (that Pete funded the Iowa app)

this was my reply

Pete did NOT invest in that app, he simply use the vendor for other logistical services involving text messaging. This lie that he helped developed the app or funded it was bullshit spun up by the usual suspects on the radical left who constantly smear and lie about most all of the other candidates. It came from the same environs who lied and spread disinfo (just one example) that Zuckerberg was running Buttigiegs campaign all because a long ago ex FB employee and a woman who never worked at FB asked Zuckerberg and his wife to send over their CV's to his campaign because they (along with hundreds if not thousands of other people) wanted to work for it.


Pete Buttigieg campaign did not pay for Iowa Caucus app

https://apnews.com/afs:Content:8464590602

CLAIM: Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg’s campaign funded the creation of the app that was used to tally votes during the Iowa Caucus.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Buttigieg’s campaign paid the company that created the app that failed during the Iowa Caucus for different technology services.

THE FACTS: Social media posts are claiming that Buttigieg’s campaign either funded or created the app used during the Iowa Caucus that was the cause of major delay in voting results.

Buttigieg’s campaign paid Shadow Inc., the company behind the Iowa Caucus app, $42,500 in July for text messaging software, campaign finance records show. The software was not related to that developed for the Iowa Caucus.

In addition, the Buttigieg campaign did not help develop the app used in Iowa, a campaign spokesman confirmed Tuesday to the AP.

Other candidates and Democratic parties, including Vice President Joe Biden, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand and the Texas Democratic Party have also contracted with Shadow Inc. in the past for services similar to those purchased by the Buttigieg campaign, federal campaign finance data shows.

snip

[RKP5637]

61. Thanks!!! n/t

[blm]

60. Warren gets it, too. Every day for the last 2 months.

No let up.

She’s a liar.

She’s a centrist.

She’s a corporate whore.

She lied to get affirmative action.

She stabbed Bernie in the back.

She’s a faux progressive.

She only copies Bernie.

Etcetera

[Celerity]

64. yes, they were on her too from the beginning

By far the 4 they hated the most were Pete, Biden, Warren and Harris. Now they are on the slag off Bloomberg train as well.

Basically the only 5 who ever had a chance to beat Bernie. No one else had any real chance. It is outrageous the way they shit on Warren, as there isn't any truly major space policy wise between the two.

[bucolic_frolic]

6. Karl Marx because that's who the GOP will make him or her to be

and that only because Lenin was a protege and not an original theorist

[Voltaire2]

24. I am very concerned what Republican Party Propaganda machine will say too.

We must find candidates they will not attack.

[Celerity]

7. counting chickens before they hatch is often the harbinger of doom

[jimfields33]

11. They are looking at reality

Look at California 430 delegates and sanders is winning at least 300 of them.

[MisterFred]

18. Maybe. If Warren & someone else qualifies... Sanders might get 50% of the CA delegates.

[jimfields33]

20. Your right. That could happen.

[Moderateguy]

23. Bernie's winning 70% of the delegates out of California?

[jimfields33]

31. He's in first place.

[Moderateguy]

42. Look up how the delegates are awarded

[mgcgulfcoast]

14. I dont believe in doom

I do believe in positive thinking.

[Celerity]

30. somethings things one does not believe in end up paying a visit anyway

[mgcgulfcoast]

34. Many dreams dont come true

I have yet to attract a super model to marry me and the prospects seem dim.

[BusyBeingBest]

8. Tammy Duckworth (also midwestern, Dem gov)

Or Amy, I love Amy

[mgcgulfcoast]

16. Perhaps.

[MisterFred]

15. Stacey Abrams

Lacking in national profile. But different region of the country, different sex, different race, different age group, and currently focusing on a people-centered movement just like Bernie proposes. Sanders endorsed her in 2018.

Less important: Georgia is a sorta-maybe-kinda-could-go-blue state.

[mgcgulfcoast]

17. Good idea

[Voltaire2]

21. Warren or Harris

Although Yang would be great too.

[mgcgulfcoast]

28. Yang could be popular with many

[TheFarseer]

22. I've long said Cory Booker

I think you can make a case for Warren or Klobuchar too.

[mgcgulfcoast]

27. Another good idea

[Tweedy]

25. Too early

Top quality Senators, though

[George II]

29. Moot point.

[Poeraria]

32. No Democrat will throw away their future contributing to Trump's re-election.

Go for a Green.

[gredinger]

33. Nina Turner

We need a female VP.

Young preferably. Nina Turner fits the bill for policy / agenda.

I'm looking forward to 2028 when Sanders' announces he won't run again and it's House Speaker AOC vs VP Nina Turner.

America's going to have a fun primary

[mgcgulfcoast]

35. Nice

[The Mouth]

36. Stacy Abrams

[Nanjeanne]

37. Tammy Baldwin

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

38. Tulsi

Burn the whole house down.

[masmdu]

39. Stacy Abrams

[Fiendish Thingy]

40. If not Warren or Harris, Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin or Stacey Abrams nt

[First Speaker]

41. Samuel L Jackson...

...because, well, why not?

[marlakay]

43. I love Liz but they are too much alike

For the moderates. I think Harris would be the best.

[spicysista]

44. Andrew Gillum, Stacey Abrams, or Beto.

Although, it's more likely he'd choose Ben Jealous or Tulsi.

[COLGATE4]

46. Nina Turner

They deserve each other

[Celerity]

51. I fear she is a real possibility, and I am not joking in the slightest

[Cousin Dupree]

53. Eeeeekkk! No!!!!!

[Funtatlaguy]

47. Black woman should be choice for any white male

[HarlanPepper]

50. Pffft

Neither of them would hitch their wagons to a doomed campaign. Think Zephyr Teachout. Maybe Nina.

[pistdem]

52. Anybody but

Tulsi or Nina, I find them too divisive. Bernie's pick should be someone who could help unite us.

[juxtaposed]

54. biden for shits and giggles, beth or kamala.

[bunny planet]

55. Barbara Lee

[Cornus]

56. Stacey Abrams.

[MichMan]

57. Rashida Tlaib

[Laelth]

58. I think Julian Castro is the best fit for Bernie. n/t

-Laelth

[Cal Carpenter]

59. Elizabeth Warren, Stacey Abrams or Tammy Baldwin

[enid602]

62. Choice

Either Tulsi or Jill. It would be a hard call to make.

[zackymilly]

65. Another new Bloomberg member. Welcome to Democratic Underground. n/t