"Do you want a doer or a debater?"

[FoxNewsSucks]

Bloomberg is getting his money's worth from his ads.

I generally have Food Network on the TV Saturday and SUnday mornings, that's when the "how-to" shows are on. It's also a break from politics since the political ads are rare. But this morning I've seen a variety of Bloomberg ads, about every 10 minutes.

Halfway through one that just aired, after a list of things Bloomberg "did", the question was asked "Do you want a doer or a debater?" . Clearly a fresh ad, motivated by the debate.

While I want someone else to win the nomination, I really hope Bloomberg was sincere in his statement that he would continue to put his money and support behind the Dem nominee and in opposition to MF45. His ads are excellent. His ad writers and producers deserve good bonuses.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Bernie has already said he would reject Bloomberg's money.

And Bloomberg replied that if Bernie doesn't want his help he will close his offices that he had intended to make available to the nominee.

[left-of-center2012]

4. Where did Bloomberg say he would close his offices?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

7. Here:

Democratic presidential candidate Mike Bloomberg said Thursday that he would shutter his campaign operation if someone else wins the nomination and rejects his support, as an aide to front-runner Bernie Sanders pledged to do earlier this week.

“What do you mean, I’m going to send a check to somebody and they’re not going to cash the check? I think I wouldn’t bother to send the check,” Bloomberg, who rallied supporters in Houston on Thursday morning, said in an interview with the Houston Chronicle.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Bloomberg-says-he-would-close-campaign-offices-if-15089749.php

[Green Line]

5. Another reason Bernie shouldn't be our nominee

[Vivienne235729]

13. +1000

[oasis]

17. Our nominee will need tons of bigtime money, but it's no surprise that

pie-in-the-sky advocates are believers in "pennies from heaven".

[FoxNewsSucks]

9. I hadn't heard that he would close anything,

and Sanders doesn't have to cash Bloomberg's checks.

Bloomberg can keep doing what he's doing now. Run ads, support the Democratic nominee, and lay waste to MF45.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. See #7.

He said he'd keep his campaign offices open if a candidate wanted to use them. But if Bernie is rejecting his help, he won't. “And if they don’t want to use them, then fine. Then we’ll close them.”

[squirecam]

15. Right

If Bernie doesn’t want his help, why spend the money.

[FoxNewsSucks]

22. Thanks,

I think we were posting at the same time.

I suppose if Bloomberg were sincere, then he'd take whatever money he would have given Sanders and add it to the money to be spent on the Senate and House. And some state legislatures.

This is really just why we need money out of elections, it puts anyone not wanting to look "bought" at a huge disadvantage.

[Apollo Zeus]

2. Why can't a "Doer" be good at debating?

Seems like if the facts are on one's side then one would have an advantage in a debate.

Can't debate so...wants to win by hiding behind brainwashing techniques?

[Squinch]

14. The issue is that one candidate has not really DONE anything. In decades.

[Apollo Zeus]

16. You mean the one who got $15/hr from Amazon?

Or the one who inspired AOC and others to run and win seats in 2018 while Bloomberg was backing Lindsey Graham?

[comradebillyboy]

18. Bernie didn't get doodly squat from Amazon. Competition for

scarce labor got the Amazon pay raise.

[Squinch]

19. In 50 years in politics? The Amazon minimum wage hike was very nice.

But for 50 years' work? Liz created a Federal Consumer Protection department in a fraction of that time.

And the people he inspired to run in 2018? Given his track record in that election, you really don't want to go there.

[left-of-center2012]

3. I want a 'doer'

The yelling, talking over one another, waving of arms in the air of the debates irritate me.

[SWBTATTReg]

6. Me too. I known people that can charm the skin off a snake, but when it comes to 'doing', ...

forget it. You can talk up a storm, but still not get a damn thing done.

[patricia92243]

8. YES!

[samnsara]

10. i havent watched one debate..i look for what a candidate has done in the past..

..thats why i support the one i support...I also watch for incidences where a candidate has said or done something so remarkable, sensitive and powerful that it has brought me to tears...again ... thats why I have chosen joe. Hes the only one who has touched my heart.

[andym]

12. I want a doer with a track record of doing, but with big ideas

Doers still running:
Biden
Bloomberg
Klubuchar
Warren (consumer protection agency)

Dreamers:
Sanders

Incomplete (not enough time to evaluate):
Buttigieg
Steyer

Of these, Biden and Bloomberg probably accomplished the most and would certainly be able to get something done
Klubuchar next.

Warren has accomplished less, but her consumer protection agency is a big deal, and she has plans to get the programs on the progressive wish list--which she won't get, but she knows how to compromise to get as much as possible. That's why she's my favorite candidate.

Incompletes for Buttigieg and Steyer. Neither has been in a position to do much significantly politically.

Sanders has accomplished much less, presumably because he doesn't like to compromise. He will have to modify this approach when President, or there will be a lot of disappointed folks. The disappointment may do a lot of harm to the neo-progressive movement that he has helped grow.

[FoxNewsSucks]

23. I wouldn't sell Warren short,

I think she's accomplished a lot in her circumstances. What I like about her is that she "has a plan for that" and does such a great job of explaining herself.

Sanders is known as the "amendment king", because while he didn't claim the spotlight with bills named after him, he's worked to get amendments passed that either improved things or at least made republicon bills somewhat less harmful. That's compromise.

[andym]

24. I agree about Warren and didn't realize that Sanders was the amendment king back when

he was a Congressman. That is reassuring, as I don't think he will have a compliant House and Senate to deal with, though I believe he will defeat Trump should he be the nominee. If he becomes President, I want him to accomplish something significant--I'm very worried about disillusionment that would follow any Democrat being elected, but especially Bernie because he has created so much enthusiasm.

[FoxNewsSucks]

25. I think that Sanders & Warren

both realize that they will have to overcome republicon obstruction and dirty tricks, even if there's a complete sweep. And they should remember the problems caused by "conserva-dems" like Joe Lieberman during the passage of the ACA.

Make it clear to the public what they are trying to do, and who is standing in the way. I also think that some of the disillusionment that plagued Obama in 2010 was from constantly attempting to work with republicons and/or giving in to them. So we got a lot of enthused 2008 voters who thought, 'well that did no good' and stayed home in 2010. I sure hope every candidate has learned that's not the way to motivate the public.

[thesquanderer]

20. Warren is both. (n/t)

[NurseJackie]

21. She's nobody's fool.

And she's not a hypocrite.