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Related: About this forumSanders quiets his critics as he becomes a 2020 front-runner
By JUANA SUMMERS and JULIE PACE today
DAVENPORT, Iowa (AP) Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is quieting critics who questioned whether he could recapture the energy of his upstart 2016 campaign, surpassing his rivals in early fundraising and establishing himself as an indisputable front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination.
Less than two months into his second White House bid , no other declared candidate in the crowded Democratic field currently has amassed so many advantages: a $28 million war chest, a loyal and enthusiastic voter base and a set of clearly defined policy objectives.
https://www.apnews.com/ea9454ea29a246a59b97e731bac16aa2
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dem4decades
(11,293 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
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dem4decades
(11,293 posts)But like Trump he stalls.
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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dem4decades
(11,293 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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JanetLovesObama
(548 posts)And WHERE ARE THOSE TAXES Bernie??????????????????????
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Dazbog
(39 posts)Beto has his own set of problems. Starting with Betos daddy in law.
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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InAbLuEsTaTe
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Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
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MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)I don't feel that I've been quieted.
Just what is the source for that comment?
Did it come with the release of his taxes?
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)here's some current thought:
In the case of Sanders' taxes, the only thing preventing him from releasing them, as he has repeatedly promised to do for almost three years, is him.
As such, it is a simple measure of whether his word is any good. If he cannot fulfill such a simple promise, which he could easily have done long since, how can he be trusted on any other matter?
And this:
It also undermines Dems for demanding Trump's tax returns.
So, yeah, I'm not "quiet" yet.
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WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)That is a huge component. Sanders name recognition has his a saturation point. He will fall as others gain recognition.
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BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)What we see is Sanders' high water mark. This is the best he is ever going to get. It is all downhill from here for him.
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mcar
(42,331 posts)Sanders, and Biden, have name recognition. It's why polls are meaningless right now. Let's see what they say after a summer of debates.
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tymorial
(3,433 posts)Eom.
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we can do it
(12,184 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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LonePirate
(13,424 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
IADEMO2004
(5,554 posts)I'm old cranky and remember years of Sanders contempt for Democrats.
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Shell_Seas
(3,333 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)he won't favor Russia sanctions either.
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Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)Malarkey.
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KayF
(1,345 posts)several people's knees jerked "his taxes!"
But you'd only have to read to paragraph three to read:
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namahage
(1,157 posts)So there goes the talking point that he'd release on Tax day. I expect to see a bunch of amended OPs "soon"...
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lapucelle
(18,258 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,405 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
progressoid
(49,990 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I know, right? More word games like "most popular Senator" and those three words by themselves convey an entirely different meaning than what is actually meant: namely, the "most popular" among the small sample of one's own constituents. The entire state of Vermont has a population that's smaller than the city of Baltimore. Vermont's ethnic demographics are something like 99% white folk. I imagine it's VERY easy to please a SMALL group of folks who by in large have nearly IDENTICAL needs and concerns. So when you think about it, being the "most popular" among Vermonters isn't all that much of an accomplishment or something to crow about, in my opinion.
Of course, others may have a different opinion. This is my personal opinion that I'm sharing.
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Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)All the rest are trailers.
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)I'm SO glad you are my primary medical advisor - you're always "spot on!"
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,770 posts)Don't trust that day.
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Me.
(35,454 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)I will support the nominee of the party but I doubt that it will be sanders. There are too many real democrats with long memories who will not forgive or forget
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Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Of course Sanders isn't electable. Our nominee will need the full support of AA Democrats, and it's abundantly clear that AA and POC aren't buying what he's selling.
I mean, seriously now... did anyone notice how lily white the turnout was in his North Charlestone, SC appearance at a BLACK CHURCH. The city itself is predominantly black, the church his historically black, and fewer than 1% of the attendees were black.
Not long after, at the same venue, an appearance by Kamala Harris had a turnout with an ethnic diversity that matched that of the city and surrounding community.
Bernie doesn't stand a chance. He knows it, we all know it. That's why he's never going to release his tax returns. Why "risk" the exposure when he's going to be mathematically eliminated so early on in the contest. It's my opinion that he'll be out of the running by Super Tuesday. (That's my hope anyway, because we can do better with real Democrats and the embarrassment of riches that we have to select from.)
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)But, it's over for Bernie!! Riiiiight... sure it is!!
Time to stop eating our own!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)and bring up tax returns. Pretty much says it all!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I don't even like the guy and I felt bad for him. In a predominantly BLACK city in a BLACK CHURCH the attendees were 99% white. Now that's a big clue that his message just isn't connecting with AA and POC Americans.
I know that's a touchy subject with Bernie fans, and I know that's why y'all try to avoid it and laugh it off and being unimportant... but there's just no getting away from the facts. Without the AA vote, Bernie ain't gonna be our party's nominee.
And that's the plain, unvarnished, honest-to-god truth!
At this point is just laughably absurd to see how long they'll delay and what the "next excuse" will be.
Face it, everyone knows that they're NEVER going to release the tax returns. They've made a calculated decision that NOT releasing them causes less damage than ACTUALLY releasing them. That's just sad.
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,258 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie is kickin' azz across ALL groups... but, that's no reason to fear the Bern.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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Gothmog
(145,242 posts)sanders seems to have a problem with getting African Americans and latinos to show up at his events. sanders held an event at an African American church where Senator Harris had a great turnout and the result was not good
Link to tweet
But the problem Sanders faces in appealing to black voters was staring at him as he spoke for an hour recently at the gym of the Royal Missionary Baptist Church: Of the more than 1,600 people who came to see the candidate, fewer than 40 were black.....
Black voters played a critical role in picking the last two Democratic nominees, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, and its hard to see a path to the Democratic nomination without significant black support.
About 25 percent of Democratic primary voters in 2016 were African American, and in key states, including South Carolina, the figure was much higher.
Sen. Harris had a event at the same church and a majority of the crowd was African Americans.
Do you have any pictures or videos of a sanders event with significant turnout by African Americans? I keep looking and have not seen any pictures of a sanders event with such turnout. BTW, NAN does not count in that such event was not a sanders event
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mcar
(42,331 posts)and yes, look at the makeup of his crowds, to see the reality.
The base of the Democratic party isn't playing anymore.
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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Hortensis
(58,785 posts)he's a populist leader. Oh, sure, many of his left-wing faction would probably welcome it, but his populist followers are different. Even many of those from the left tend to have socially conservative feelings, while the conservative pops he's trying to draw away from Trump...!
But in any case, our POC bloc requires more of any candidate they'll endorse than he can give without driving away other support. Remember, he's trying to draw a lot of populists falling away from their disappointing leader on the right in order to create a majority coalition, and POC are only 13.3% of the population. Sadly, socially conservative whites outnumber them probably close to 3:1.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)He doesn't thrive in a teamwork, consensus, coalition model, and prefers a top down management style with him at the top. SNCC must have been frustrating for him.
He hasn't needed to display emotional intelligence about and empathy with POC or a need to champion their issues since then, to get elected and re-elected in very white, very rural Vermont for decades. The Sanders Institue "Gathering" in Burlington was very frustrating for racial justice leadership in Vermont and elsewhere.
I'm sure that being told he does now is very frustrating, and from watching interviews with him when a difficult problem is brought up, he gets testy with the person doing the asking.
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MFM008
(19,808 posts)Younger is better.
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sprinkleeninow
(20,248 posts)this guy:
😁
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Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)Thanks for the thread workinclasszero.
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Feel the Bern!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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cwydro
(51,308 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,767 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)the candidate with the most progressive agenda in the race. Why Bernie will win... easily!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)if you've had to "fight" this hard on such a simple matter of "who's been silenced" within your own community of fellow Democrats, and you don't seem to have any significant evidence that you've "converted" others within your own party, just how do you think the "front-running Senator" is going to win the nomination, let alone the critical 2020 presidential election?
Again, I truly am asking in a most respectful manner. It is imperative that IQ45 loses. We cannot afford to lose this opportunity. Please tell me how, after the experience of this posting, you think Senator Sanders is the best candidate for bringing the Democratic Party a winning ticket.
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RandySF
(58,832 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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