Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumYou don't remodel when your house is on fire.
Put out the fire first, then you can rebuild.
Priorities.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)That's a good point because it seems that dire priorities are being deprecated and disparaged in order to both weaken the political infrastructure of the country and conform it to the dictates of a toxic individual.
You could say that it is all on fire and they are just ordering more gasoline to put it out with.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Renner, I must tell you of a creature of legend.
Say on. Renners image dialed for coffee. Coffee and stories, they went together.
We will call him Crazy Eddie, if you like. He is a... he is like me, sometimes, and he is a Brown, an idiot savant tinker, sometimes. Always he does the wrong things for excellent reasons. He does the same things over and over, and they always bring disaster, and he never learns.
There were small sounds of whispering in MacArthurs wardroom. Renners image said, For instance?
Renners Moties image paused to think. It said, When a city has grown so overlarge and crowded that it is in immediate danger of collapse . . . when food and clean water flow into the city at a rate just sufficient to feed every mouth, and every hand must work constantly to keep it that way. . . when all transportation is involved in moving vital supplies, and none is left over to move people out of the city should the need arise . . . then it is that Crazy Eddie leads the movers of garbage out on strike for better working conditions.
- Larry Niven and Jerry Pournell, The Mote in God's Eye (1974)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,991 posts)Half the old kitchen is gone. Do you rebuild what was there and then change it? Or do you start fresh with the new design?
The analogy works either way.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DownriverDem
(6,231 posts)go with the guy that will bring you to the dance. Biden running with a strong progressive Dem woman will be a winner.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mac56
(17,574 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Don't take the wrapper off a new candy bar when the are M&Ms still in the bowl.
No idea what it means or its relevance. But we get to feel more clever in doing so.
Kinda like yours.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,991 posts)Last edited Tue Mar 3, 2020, 06:52 PM - Edit history (1)
"Fights over words are very, very simple to avoid-- simply choose our words somewhat carefully, and holster the desire to cleverly insult"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)let alone remodel it
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DownriverDem
(6,231 posts)Center/Left voters will vote for Biden in November. We will need them to beat trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
johnthewoodworker
(694 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Asked and answered ad nauseam.
Only about half of Sanders supporters said they would do the same in a recent poll.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mme. Defarge
(8,042 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
woundedkarma
(498 posts)Most people don't shake hands and "work together" with the arsonist the day after the fire is out.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)You call 911 and let Elizabeth Warren save your ass again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)After that, youre in rebuilding mode. You wouldnt just rebuild it the exact same way I expect.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Qutzupalotl
(14,327 posts)the rule of law, fair election, balance of power. Those I hope will be rebuilt following the Constitution. But we will take into account the weaknesses Vlad has found and fix them, so not the exact same way, no.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)Tackling those issues.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Qutzupalotl
(14,327 posts)I am hoping now for a unity ticket of Biden/Warren. They like and respect each other. I love them both.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)I mean... REALLY?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gore1FL
(21,151 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)he just dumped gasoline all over it like a dumbass. And then we have to care for the burn survivors with some sort of universal program.
So there are some who would like to burn this mother down, and then build affordable housing for all, or something.
I'm voting blue no matter who. But fearmongering is a little less effective on some folks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Red Oak
(697 posts)You dont install lifetime conservative supreme court justices or go "my bad" on horrific wars of convenience. You dont vote to allow student debt to not be forgiven, unlike bankers debt. You dont allow big pharma to go without drug price negotiation or stopping the pillage of the ill with $900 Epipens (thanks Joe Manchins daughter) or $500 monthly insulin.
In other words, once the fire is out it might be nice to own a modern progressive home rather than a decaying1960's rambler.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)And you don't bulldoze the house because you have a squeaky floorboard and a leaky faucet. When it comes to the Democratic party, some folks want to demolish it and start over to make it a Socialist party instead. Well, I say that we keep what we have and simply continue to build on its strengths and improve in practical and realistic ways.
There will be no "revolution". We're not razing this house.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sellitman
(11,607 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
C_U_L8R
(45,020 posts)Sometimes you gotta change the wings on the plane in mid-flight.
Competence.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TinCup
(54 posts)When we think about what it will take to make this country more equitable for all you cannot think in small terms. It will take large sweeping changes over many years to set in motion the changes we need. People will always react from their comforts before they react with their hearts. If these changes were spoke of in terms of 5-8 year terms instead of "Day 1 of my administration" if would give those hesitating more time to adjust.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JustAnotherGen
(31,879 posts)Best simple analogy I've seen that expresses my thoughts on 2020.
Thank you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,147 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
johnthewoodworker
(694 posts)our economic, healthcare, and educational systems. This thought that we should be the party that, in essence, says lets go back to the way things were before the cat grabber came to power is a mistake. If the democrats win the GE and things don't change significantly there is going to be some significant frustration.
The chances are exceedingly slim that republicans will do anything to help democrats. I know that Biden has mentioned that once Trump is gone republicans will begin to function as rational human beings again. I don't see it. Trump is the face of the republican coup, but the republican rank and file are it's soul.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
onetexan
(13,058 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Our conservative founders believed it was important to keep dominant power in the hands of those who had vested interest in a stable society. They feared a system that barnburners and those with nothing to lose could use to destroy out of anger and ignorance, instead of building. They lost, of course, to our liberal founders and predecessors of today's Democrats, who felt all should have equal rights and self interest would help most people make responsible decisions.
But as Ben Franklin worried then, they chose for a democracy -- if we can keep it. The weakness of the electorate they all, liberal and conservative, feared could bring it and them down is what we're seeing exploited and dangerously amplified now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Duppers
(28,127 posts)For weeks.
My line: "You don't clean dirty windows when your house is on fire." I swear. 😁
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hangaleft
(649 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided