Democratic Primaries
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It's enraging, it makes me want to burn things down, it's wretchedly unfair, but it's true. Biden simply won't face the same kind of vacuous scrutiny (cough cough including from the left cough cough) that Hillary Clinton did. I hate this, but it's true.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)thorough in their corruption so I'm willing to wait to see how this turns out. And remember, in 2016
we DID elect her, vacuous scrutiny be damned...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)What did Bernie do yesterday? He spent at much time as possible in front of the cameras bringing up the same issues that people have been bringing up about Biden since April. While he was doing that, his little minions were doing the same thing on sites like DailyKos.com. Here is the pattern that I have noticed about Bernie Sanders' supporters:
They love to talk endlessly about how he is promising all kinds of things, but they never want to talk about how unlikely it is that he would get those things passed if he were President, how unlikely it would be that he would ever get funding to pay for those things, how if he never got funding for those things, they would explode the deficit even more, and how unlikely it is that a Socialist would ever get elected in the first place.
No, Bernie's supporters love to focus on three things:
1. How incredibly great it would be if his empty promises were fulfilled.
2. How desperately those promises are needed.
3. How Bernie's opponents are the spawn of hell.
Here are the answers to those assertions:
1. Bernie will never get elected because America is never going to elect a Socialist in 2020. If America really wanted Socialists, there would be more than 1 in the Senate and 3 in the House. In addition, that one Senator, and those three House members, were only able to be elected in the bluest of blue districts, and the bluest of blue state of Vermont. Therefore, we will never see his agenda at all. In addition, no Republican would vote for his agenda, and few Moderate Democrats from purple states would vote for his agenda either because it would be political suicide. In addition, a Socialist at the top of the ticket might actually cause the Dems to lose House and Senate seats.
2. I agree. America needs to make college more affordable. We need better, more affordable Healthcare, and NAFTA should be lit on fire. However, these changes will not come from Bernie Sanders because he will never get elected in the first place, and his bills would not pass.
3. Bernie's opponents, that his supporters loved to malign, include the following:
--Joe Biden, who has spent his life dedicated to the Democratic Party and to bringing Americans things like the ACA and the Violence Against Women Act.
--A brilliant Mayor who is better at thinking on his feet than just about any politician I have ever seen
--A brilliant college professor who has worked out the details for dozens of proposals and has twice the electability of Bernie Sanders
--A highly intelligent and very personable Senator from Minnesota whose specialty has getting elected by big margins
--A billionaire who has put his money where his mouth is when it comes to Liberal issues
--An even richer billionaire who spent hundreds of millions of dollars on excellent commercials tearing down Donald Trump.
To sum up: Bernie won't get elected. His bills will not pass. He will make things tougher for us in the House and the Senate. His proposals would be great, but since they won't pass, Bernie is just peddling empty promises to desperate college students, and pretty much every one of his opponents is more electable than he is, more realistic about what could actually pass, more honest about what could pass, and less of a Danger to the House and Senate.
Bernie Sanders wants things to be better for Americans, but his nomination would be a nightmare for the Democrats, and, because it would ensure Donald Trump's continued existence in the White House, a nightmare for the entire country. Of the 29 people who ran for the Democratic nomination, he was and is the least electable of the lot. Even Tulsi Gabbard would have a better chance beating Donald Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,556 posts)"It must be a fantastic speech, a brilliant speech which you would want to share with the American people. It must be Shakespearean!"
What kind of person would say that? A speech about regulating Wall Street becomes a diabolical conspiracy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Atticus
(15,124 posts)through your cheek.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided