Elizabeth Warren WILL NOT ENDORSE...

[brooklynite]

Link to tweet

[Legends303]

1. This most likely helps Biden

Sanders supporters burned down too many bridges.

[LongtimeAZDem]

4. And what they'll say online about her not endorsing will be vile

[morillon]

33. It's already happening

I withdrew from a Facebook group earlier today where his supporters were saying she deserved all the name-calling and snake emojis.

[Farmer-Rick]

62. Oh that is not a good sign that Bernie voters will come out to vote

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Never mind.....see next post.

[morillon]

64. Maybe I wasn't clear?

The supporters attacking me were Bernie's. Not Biden's.

I first supported Harris, then Warren, now Biden. I voted for Bernie in 2016.

I don't know if every last Bernie supporter in that FB group is a Russian troll. But I do know that they are attacking everyone who isn't supporting Bernie, and that was enough for me to unsubscribe. I don't need that.

That said, I've got a relative -- who isn't a Russian troll -- who attacked me and some other people on FB this week for not supporting Bernie. She called us Trump supporters, for heaven's sake.

There's some ugly stuff out there, and I want none of it.

[Farmer-Rick]

71. Oh, thanks for clarifing.

Oh ok, I misinterpreted what you wrote. Thanks for the clarification.

[yardwork]

2. I expect her to wait to endorse the Democratic nominee.

[C Moon]

61. Good point.

[BeyondGeography]

3. As a supporter I am most pleased

May the usual suspects let the snake emojis fly.

[Demsrule86]

8. Sanders people( or Russians?) should stop all the online crap now. It is truly awful.

[BeyondGeography]

10. Hey, my favorite Biden supporter

Congrats on Tuesday. I was feeling your enthusiasm with those late-night Texas numbers.

[Demsrule86]

53. I apologize for my potty mouth...I live in Ohio...hubs works in manufacturing...excuses excuses.

I changed some posts! Your are my favorite Warren supporter! One caveat all Warren supporters are nice and I can't think of one I dislike. I appreciate your congratulations. I am truly sorry about Warren...I liked her and would happily have voted for her. I know she will continue to make us proud. I consider myself as much a Warren supporter as a Biden supporter. I didn't appreciate her in the beginning but as the campaign continued, she became my second choice. I would hope that Biden would consider her as VP. She would help bring unity for the ticket. Anyway, thanks for the congratulations...we are going to win the General and kick dirty donnie out of the People's house. I feel it in my bones.

[deurbano]

54. Warren for Senate Majority Leader when we take back the Senate!

[trc]

58. Perfect!

[Demsrule86]

74. She would be great!

[Demsrule86]

73. She would be great and is from a safe state...although she could be VP...Biden may choose her.

[Qutzupalotl]

25. Truly I never understood the snake thing

until I remembered that Russia is still manipulating our election, posing as progressive Americans because it costs them next to nothing and sows chaos all around.

Anytime I see an over-the-top emotional reaction or bad take online, I remember what Russia’s doing and why. I’m sure that’s what we’re seeing here. Unfortunately some gullible Americans take the bait. (on edit: Not you, BG.)

[LisaM]

52. Not true. The tweet has been deleted, but the Bay Area DSA (not Russians)

did an absolutely nasty, gloating, homophobic dance when Buttigieg dropped out (it was linked here), complete with nail polish emojis.

They weren't Russians.

[deurbano]

56. Plus, they had some rat emoji for him, too. I saw the snake stuff from people who are real.

I mean, I'm sure it was all amplified by the bots... That's the point.

[Qutzupalotl]

69. I didn't say they were Russians.

Russia is exploiting existing divisions and amping up the rhetoric on all sides. Some people get caught up in that without realizing the source or the motivation, and carry Russia’s water unknowingly.

[hlthe2b]

5. Smart. She can not win, no matter who she endorses.

She should wait until we have a clear nominee.

[William769]

41. +1

[Demsrule86]

6. That takes guts given the hateful Twitter Sanders folks...the bern should have treated her

better...no script and not called her a liar on the debate stage for all intents and purposes.

[LostOne4Ever]

7. Good! (NT)

[TwilightZone]

9. Not endorsing *TODAY* -- "Wants to weigh whether to do it and, if so, timing."

"Warren has told associates she’s NOT planning to endorse later today when she announces that she’s dropping out. Wants to weigh whether to do it and, if so, timing."

Link to tweet

[Celerity]

76. thank you for adding the TODAY part

[cp]

11. Yet

[TwilightZone]

12. Correct.

[honest.abe]

13. That will piss off the already pissed off Bernie gang.

But I totally agree with her on this.

[TwilightZone]

14. The headline is misleading.

She said she's not going to endorse today. "Wants to weigh whether to do it and, if so, timing."

[honest.abe]

19. Yeah, I got that.

It will still piss them off she didn't do it right away. Regardless there is no way she endorses Sanders. If anyone its Biden.

[TwilightZone]

21. Neutral would probably cause the least consternation.

But she should do what she feels is best, not be concerned about how Sanders supporters might react.

I don't really have an issue with however she goes. Neutral is probably best at defusing. Sanders would be somewhat expected. Biden would help the momentum and unity now and down the road.

[honest.abe]

22. yes, that would be best at this point.

[Polybius]

45. Why would you want to piss them off?

We need their votes if it's Biden. Myself, I will vote for Biden gladly, but some of Bernie's supporters are different. They are a minority, true. But we absolutely need them in November.

[honest.abe]

47. I dont. I'm all for peace and unity.

Just speculating what might happen if Warren doesn't endorse.

[Polybius]

48. I'm the Sanders supporter that's the voice of reason lol

Glad we're on the same page. I will personally tell all of the Sanders supporters who don't like Biden to get to the polls in November. That's why I hope Biden picks Warren. She's very progressive and the young Sanders supporters might be motivated.

[honest.abe]

49. Excellent!

[greenjar_01]

29. Snake emoji blizzard INCOMING

[SunSeeker]

60. LOL

[2naSalit]

15. I wanted a real choice this time around

and it pisses me off to no end that the women were summarily dismissed as they have been. I expect that, should we win the Senate back, the ERA to pass right away. I am so sick of the fucking misogyny.

I switched to Joe because he is now our only hope.

[gldstwmn]

17. I hope to see the ERA passed in my lifetime.

[MontanaFarmer]

27. Same boat as you.

I like Joe pretty well but i supported and donated to all 3 major women candidates in our field at various times. Harris was my first choice, but Warren was a great candidate and would have made a phenomenal, consequential president.

[BidenBacker]

30. I have a gut feeling

that your first choice might very well end up as #2 on the Biden ticket.

[MontanaFarmer]

31. I certainly hope so, and it seems logical.

She's ready on day 1.

[BidenBacker]

34. Harris vs Pence in a VP debate

Hooboy, they'd have to have an ambulance and paramedics waiting outside the studio for Mikey by the time Kamala got done with him.

[morillon]

36. That'd be a smackdown for the ages

It'd do my little heart good to see that.

[BidenBacker]

38. Check this out

Progressive Score (Lifetime on Crucial Votes):

Harris - 97.13%
Warren - 96.56%
Gillibrand - 96.38%
Brown - 95.85%
Sanders - 95.18%

If Harris as the VP pick didn't pacify many of Sanders' supporters then those are the ones who are the Bernie cultists and not true progressives so nothing short of BS himself on the top of the ticket would satisfy them anyway.

I do like Sherrod Brown an awful lot, though...and it sure would be nice to turn Ohio blue. Lots of great options...nice problem for Joe to have trying to pick a running mate.

[MontanaFarmer]

37. Mother sitting there staring holes in Mike,

making sure he doesn't step out of line up there by himself with that devil woman that'd be a sight for sore eyes after Kamala mopped up the debate hall with his hypocritical ass.

[DinahMoeHum]

57. Either that or Warren vs. Pence.

Either way, only one of them will leave the arena on their own two feet. . .and it won't be the male of the species.

[BidenBacker]

67. Nope

I'd definitely have to bet against my own gender in that case.

Of course with Pence standing at one podium I'd even bet on another species against him. Mikey ain't exactly the sharpest penc(e)il in the box.

[LenaW]

68. How are you feeling with the remaining candidates' records

on women's rights, abortion, the Hyde amendment?

[2naSalit]

72. The only candidate for the presidency that

matters, in my reckoning, is Biden. He has a fair enough record in his voting history. I've been around for a while, I have been voting for decades and I pay attention. I know who Joe Biden is and I know who Bernie Sanders is and have for quite some time, they are both humane and compassionate in their beliefs.

Biden has accomplished quite a bit for the people over the years and he learns from mistakes and takes/seeks sound advice. I want that in my president. I have no desire to see Bernie become president because I don't feel comfortable with his world view. And he has been insulting me, as a Democrat, for some time and I take offense to that. He was never on my list of preferences.

Considering the situation the country is in at present, I have no intention of letting my personal preferences get in the way of what must be done. It' s kind of like being in combat for real; you have to make decisions, choices and take actions you wouldn't under normal circumstances. And you do them because the alternative is great loss that is unacceptable.

Times like these require us to drop our ice cream and start rowing the damn boat before we go over the waterfall. I have an oar in my hand and I'm rowing hard as I can, I hope everybody else does too.

[ehrnst]

79. OK. Let's compare:

One is responsible for the Violence Against Women Act.

One is being supported by the National Organization for Women and one is being opposed.

One repeated an anti-choice talking point, because he wasn't aware that it was one.

One tells gets a "half-true" rating on their statements about their voting record on the Hyde Amendment.

One candidate said that female candidates are prone to telling people that being a woman is reason "enough" to vote for them.

One candidate stated that he supported family leave because "when mother has a baby, she should stay home with that baby."

[gldstwmn]

16. Thank you. Practical and pragmatic

to the very end. Thank you for not insulting my intelligence by telling me to go vote for so and so.

[frazzled]

18. I think that's the right move for her

And that is because she is in a delicate position with respect to both her supporters and the party.

First, I believe many of her supporters are those who backed her M4A and free tuition plans but who were outdone on that score by the Bernie supporters. They might be averse to a more moderate candidate, but also to the hard-core tactics of the Bernie camp. Others really wanted to support a woman; and I suspect more of them might accede to Biden.

As for the party: Warren is not a lone wolf like Sanders, an independent. She's placed herself squarely within the apparatus of the Democratic Party structure. So while she wants to push change, she is smart enough to know that she must do that within party parameters.

And then there is the delicate position of her disappointing showing in her home state. Maybe it's meaningless, and confined solely to presidential considerations. But she needs to focus on her MA constituents' wishes and desires first.

[BidenBacker]

20. Data for Progress

There was a guy from this progressive think tank on MSNBC yesterday. He said based on their numbers they estimated that about 60% of her supporters would go over to Sanders.

[R B Garr]

23. Great decision! Holding off endorsing helps her position,

and I’d like to see more of her.

[BluNoMatterHu]

24. Sometimes saying nothing is saying everything.

She was threatened when she endorsed Hillary. She knows Bernie's supporters and she's smart to keep quiet right now. Besides, many Warren supporters had Biden as their second choice. People will continue to coalesce.

[apcalc]

26. Imo would be silly for her to endorse. Her state went to Biden. Does she want a political future?

[Butterflylady]

32. That's a very good point.

I never thought about that, good point.

[Green Line]

46. Exactly, she needs to respect her constituents choice.

[still_one]

28. I think she has made a wise decision

[BlueMTexpat]

35. This is exactly how

I feel.

She was MY candidate. There was no second choice for me.

I'll vote blue in the GE.

But right now, I am heartsick.

[zackymilly]

63. She should say she's endorsing Tulsi. LOL n/t

[BlueMTexpat]

75. Sorry, but

that is not even funny.

[Moderateguy]

39. Smart decision. She's in a lose-lose situation

If she endorses Bernie, her supporters will feel let down after the way the Bernie?/Russia brigade treated her on SM. She is more aligned with his policies but has pretty much admitted they are unachievable without significant compromise.

If she endorses Biden, the Bernie brigade will turn on her and possibly try to primary her in 2024. In super-liberal MA that is a big threat. She knows that she is not getting a cabinet position because the democrats cannot afford to be 1 down in the Senate.

Her safest bet is to remain neutral and endorse the nominee once he emerges.

[Politicub]

40. Bernie's upset online supporters are going to push away any chance

of her endorsing him.

Warren played a critical role in the Obama administration by forming the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. I think people are hungry for a return to a drama-free politics like from the Obama era. She was part of that.

Having Warren endorse Biden would be like getting the band back together. She and Biden differ on many policies but they also have some goals in common, like rewarding teachers and prioritizing pre-k and childcare.

She is also a pragmatist and not a doctrinaire socialist revolutionary. I don’t see her endorsing Bernie under any scenario.

[ancianita]

42. Excellent.

[LizBeth]

43. Warren can't win either way but then that was often the position she is put in.

[Sparkly]

44. I was hoping she wouldn't.

Smart move.

[Laelth]

50. Cautious. Wise.

Sounds like Elizabeth to me.



-Laelth

[Chainfire]

51. Hedging her bets?

Just asking?

[Act_of_Reparation]

66. Maybe she enjoys watching entitled men gripe about her endorsement like they deserve it ipso facto.

[DinahMoeHum]

55. will not endorse. . .yet.

I have every faith she'll do what she feels is best for the Party and the country.

[Fiendish Thingy]

59. Good nt

[Proud Liberal Dem]

65. Will not endorse anybody?

[Celerity]

78. no, the OP left off 'today' so as to get clicks

[Cha]

70. Thank you, Elizabeth!

[duforsure]

77. I think she'll let the American people choose the candidate

Rather than burn bridges with either one , then pledge her full support to them.