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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 09:59 PM Mar 2020

Bernie Sanders Says Not All Voters Who Feel 'Uncomfortable' With Black Candidates Are Racist

I understand that Nina Turner has somehow declared herself the arbitrator of all things racism, but perhaps she could explain Bernie's comments that just because you do not feel comfortable voting for a candidate because they are black does not make you a racist.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-andrew-gillum-stacey-abrams_n_5be48626e4b0769d24cadd68

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) drew criticism Thursday after saying many white voters in the South who felt “uncomfortable” voting for black candidates for the first time were “not necessarily racist.”

The comment came in an interview with The Daily Beast published Thursday, in which the senator discussed the difficulties faced by black gubernatorial candidates Andrew Gillum in Florida and Stacey Abrams in Georgia.

“I think you know there are a lot of white folks out there who are not necessarily racist who felt uncomfortable for the first time in their lives about whether or not they wanted to vote for an African-American,” Sanders told the outlet. “I think next time around, by the way, it will be a lot easier for them to do that.”

A number of writers and activists of color called Sanders out for implying it wasn’t racist to reject a candidate based on race.
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Bernie Sanders Says Not All Voters Who Feel 'Uncomfortable' With Black Candidates Are Racist (Original Post) TomCADem Mar 2020 OP
Yeah yeah.. that makes no sense Cha Mar 2020 #1
Again? Didn't he learn last time he talked about this and got slammed? George II Mar 2020 #2
Unbelievable still_one Mar 2020 #5
Bernie Sanders' MLK comments anger Barack Obama supporters TomCADem Mar 2020 #7
This article is from November 2018 nt Celerity Mar 2020 #21
Thanks. I just read the excerpt. Huffington Post has too many popup ads and drop downs.... George II Mar 2020 #23
+100 Celerity Mar 2020 #24
Disgusting. Making excuses for racists? NurseJackie Mar 2020 #3
Oh for the love of God Bernie.. that is the epitome or what racism Peacetrain Mar 2020 #4
To think that Biden gets bashed for "gaffes", this is INTENTIONAL, not a gaffe! George II Mar 2020 #11
I am just gobsmacked.. this is a thought out argument that is what is so sad Peacetrain Mar 2020 #14
Keep digging Bernie.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #6
Imma guess the usual Berners won't touch this. NT Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #8
I can't decide if he's this tone deaf or Moderateguy Mar 2020 #9
ding ding ding.... getagrip_already Mar 2020 #26
awkwardly tone deaf bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #10
Well, Here Is Bernie Dodging Questions on Racism By Namedropping MLK TomCADem Mar 2020 #12
I didn't mean to suggest spontaneous as isolated. bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #15
Um, I always thought Obama was black relayerbob Mar 2020 #13
This FL voter won't forget mcar Mar 2020 #16
It's 2020 for Christ's sake! What are they then? Skid Rogue Mar 2020 #17
Nina, will you ask Bernie to apologize? IluvPitties Mar 2020 #18
Yikes. Tone deaf. cwydro Mar 2020 #19
I'm thinking that this is really bad. :) nt Sloumeau Mar 2020 #20
You really should note in your OP that this article is from 2018, Celerity Mar 2020 #22
Kick Cha Mar 2020 #25
Oh who cares? Loki Liesmith Mar 2020 #27
 

Cha

(297,490 posts)
1. Yeah yeah.. that makes no sense
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:01 PM
Mar 2020
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George II

(67,782 posts)
2. Again? Didn't he learn last time he talked about this and got slammed?
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:02 PM
Mar 2020
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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
7. Bernie Sanders' MLK comments anger Barack Obama supporters
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:05 PM
Mar 2020

The main thing that happened is Nina Turner's outrage with anyone daring to question whether Bernie best fulfills MLK's views. I guess for Nina it is okay for Bernie to effectively blame the failures of the Democratic party on Obama with the faint praise that he is charismatic.

https://www.salon.com/2018/04/06/bernie-sanders-mlk-comments-anger-barack-obama-supporters/

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., has once again aroused controversy, this time after he made comments about President Barack Obama at an event honoring Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. that critics claimed disparaged the first African-American president and supporters insist was taken out of context.

On Wednesday, during an event in Jackson, Mississippi honoring King's legacy on the 50th anniversary of his death, Sanders discussed the future of the Democratic Party with members of the audience.

"The business model, if you like, of the Democratic Party for the last 15 years or so has been a failure," Sanders told the audience, according to BuzzFeed. "People sometimes don't see that because there was a charismatic individual named Barack Obama, who won the presidency in 2008 and 2012."

Sanders added, "He was obviously an extraordinary candidate, brilliant guy. But behind that reality, over the last 10 years, Democrats have lost about 1,000 seats in state legislatures all across this country."
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Celerity

(43,469 posts)
21. This article is from November 2018 nt
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 07:03 AM
Mar 2020
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George II

(67,782 posts)
23. Thanks. I just read the excerpt. Huffington Post has too many popup ads and drop downs....
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 09:39 AM
Mar 2020

....it's getting almost impossible to read.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
3. Disgusting. Making excuses for racists?
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:02 PM
Mar 2020

I'm going to vomit.

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Peacetrain

(22,878 posts)
4. Oh for the love of God Bernie.. that is the epitome or what racism
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:03 PM
Mar 2020

is.. fear of the other because of the color of their skin.. judgments about being uncomfortable around someone because of the color of their skin.. that is RACISM..and RACIST

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George II

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11. To think that Biden gets bashed for "gaffes", this is INTENTIONAL, not a gaffe!
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:17 PM
Mar 2020
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Peacetrain

(22,878 posts)
14. I am just gobsmacked.. this is a thought out argument that is what is so sad
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:30 PM
Mar 2020

and as you said, not a trip over the tongue or looking for a word that is easier to say

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Happy Hoosier

(7,367 posts)
6. Keep digging Bernie....
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:04 PM
Mar 2020

He seems incapable of learning.

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Happy Hoosier

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8. Imma guess the usual Berners won't touch this. NT
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:06 PM
Mar 2020
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Moderateguy

(945 posts)
9. I can't decide if he's this tone deaf or
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:06 PM
Mar 2020

is trying to attract MAGAts to vote for him

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getagrip_already

(14,816 posts)
26. ding ding ding....
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 08:41 PM
Mar 2020

He is following trumps model. Exploit the untapped racists. They are trump loyalists, but he is trying to convince them to cast crossover votes since there is nothing on the gop ballot to bother with.

He is actively asking russia to find those emails........

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bucolic_frolic

(43,249 posts)
10. awkwardly tone deaf
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:08 PM
Mar 2020

Candidates usually have personnel to advise the candidate around sensitive issues and nuances. Hard to believe this one slipped by media advisors, so it's just spontaneous.

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TomCADem

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12. Well, Here Is Bernie Dodging Questions on Racism By Namedropping MLK
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:17 PM
Mar 2020

These are not isolated events. Bernie has a history of scapegoating immigrants and literally ignoring questions of race by name dropping MLK as a catch all answer:


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bucolic_frolic

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15. I didn't mean to suggest spontaneous as isolated.
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:38 PM
Mar 2020

I meant not well coached ... not rehearsed, allowing insensitivity to leak through. Media coaches would prep a candidate for messaging in sensitive areas. I'd suspect there is no such going on in that campaign.

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relayerbob

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13. Um, I always thought Obama was black
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:26 PM
Mar 2020
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mcar

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16. This FL voter won't forget
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:40 PM
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Skid Rogue

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17. It's 2020 for Christ's sake! What are they then?
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:49 PM
Mar 2020
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IluvPitties

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18. Nina, will you ask Bernie to apologize?
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:52 PM
Mar 2020
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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
19. Yikes. Tone deaf.
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:54 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie, really?

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Sloumeau

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20. I'm thinking that this is really bad. :) nt
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 06:57 AM
Mar 2020
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Celerity

(43,469 posts)
22. You really should note in your OP that this article is from 2018,
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 07:06 AM
Mar 2020

in November. Some in this thread appear to think this is a new event.

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Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
27. Oh who cares?
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 09:03 PM
Mar 2020

This is petty shit.

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