Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumDid Klobuchar just spill the beans on her role in Biden's campaign?
My guess is it was a Freudian slip but it wouldn't surprise me if Biden made a similar offer to Buttigieg in exchange for their endorsement of him.
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)I would absolutely be overjoyed if she were the VP, however.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,806 posts)It would be cool if that were Al Franken.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,054 posts)Im torn between her & Kamala but i think Kamala wld be food candidate for AG or Homeland Security. Amy would really help with voters in the midwest, and she's a centrist like Biden is, someone independents & anti-trump conservatives can vote for.
Getting Al back to the Senate in her place would be cherry on top!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
judeling
(1,086 posts)That would be a fantastic replacement for Amy.
If Amy is the pick and it is made early enough, she could resign and Peggy could run in November.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,806 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mister Ed
(5,942 posts)If Amy resigned and Peggy Flanagan had to put together a hasty-pudding campaign, there's always the danger that the senate seat could be lost. And what if, heaven forfend, Trump were to win in November? Then Amy would have forfeited her senate seat needlessly.
Far better, if Amy became a running mate, would be to resign only after a victory in November. Democratic MN Governor Tim Walz would then appoint a successor, who would hold the seat until a special election in November 2022. That would be plenty of time for that successor to build a proper election campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
karynnj
(59,504 posts)Both Obama and Biden did that. Tim Kaine did that. John Kerry did that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mister Ed
(5,942 posts)As you point out, there's no need to resign from a senate seat in order to run for another office. Neither Obama, nor Biden, nor Kaine, nor Kerry resigned while running. No one would.
That was the point of my reply to the poster who suggested that Amy would need to make sure to resign early enough to give another Democrat adequate time to run as her replacement.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
judeling
(1,086 posts)First Walz could appoint Flanagan right away and she would be running as the incumbent and with Amy on the ballot in Minnesota.
She would be up in 2014 anyway and the only reason not to do so would imply that Biden/Klobuchar loses. If that happens it probably would be better to get as far away from Washington as possible. Look at what happened to Paul Ryan.
She would automatically be in the conversation from the start of that cycle. Much better to spend the time converting the national network that the even losing run would allow into a tight team under a leadership Pac where she can focus on shoring up her profile. Hit 2022 very hard and gain the cred and come into the 2024 campaign season with a fully developed team and deep national network.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)On the night before Super Tuesday, Biden tweeted a picture of him and Buttigieg shaking hands with a caption that finished with welcome to the team
I think it just implies theyre working together.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)And if you were president, how well he would work with Democrats in Congress and all over the nation to bring about progress and change and to correct the horrors of the past three years.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)While in general, I would prefer a Woman of Color, I love Amy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indykatie
(3,697 posts)I'm sure there are roles for Amy, Pete and Beto if they want them in a Biden Administration. I just don't think Biden had to offer up anything now to get their endorsements. From everything I've read Amy and Beto reached out to Biden not the other way around. I think Pete did too.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Chemisse
(30,814 posts)We must have a woman, without a doubt, but I think we can do better. I am hoping for a woman who is also a POC. That would be ideal, imo.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)to be his VP. My wife thought that was an excellent plan. I do too.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
monmouth4
(9,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)She does add anything to the ticket on an ideological, demographic and geographic basis.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)I also like Tammy Duckworth...but I will be happy with whoever.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)and exactly how does her on the ticket win those seats?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)That would be a dream ticket.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
judeling
(1,086 posts)Not only did she deliver Minnesota and would take it off the board and narrow Trump's path. Biden needs a clear and logical understudy to mitigate some of the doubts. Amy provides that clearer then anyone else in the race.
Additionally it is a clear play for the newest and shakiest part of the coalition, Suburban women.
Once the Obamas are unleashed, Amy brings the one thing that nobody else does right now. A level of credibility and familiarity in and with deep red Rural America that could allow just enough of a tinge of pink to really expand the playing field.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)It doesnt need to be delivered and Biden has no problems with suburban women either.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)That is hardly solid blue. It is exactly the type of state that we can't take for granted. Hillary got barely above 46% and won by 1.5%.
We can take states for granted if they have more self-identified liberals than conservatives. That includes most of the northeastern states other than New Hampshire, and states like Oregon and California. Washington state now has slightly more liberals than conservatives. Likewise New Mexico.
But it is incredibly foolish to take states for granted just because they have a recent blue history, if the ideological split is not markedly different than the nation itself. The nation is 9% more conservatives than liberals. All of those states we lost narrowly in 2016 are close to the national ideological split.
I really wish the campaigns would poll that aspect and not the candidate to candidate preference. We would not have wasted time in places like Ohio and North Carolina in 2016 if we realized they were going to report such a wide ideological split. Ohio was all the way up to a 19% gap...39% conservatives and 20% liberals. That is no chance territory. Yet we idiotically were chasing that state while assuming victory in so many states that were very close to the national ideological breakdown. North Carolina was no chance whatsoever at 43% conservatives and 22% liberals.
Against an incumbent we have to double down on ideology. It has to be moderate flanked by moderate. Otherwise you are really rolling the dice in those pivotal states. Nobody seems to grasp how extraordinarily difficult it is to oust an incumbent. Only Jimmy Carter has lost in Trump's situation in more than a century...incumbent whose party has been in power only one term.
I'd go with Beto or Klobuchar. They were my 1-2 picks for the top of the ticket.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
judeling
(1,086 posts)I do not understand why people haven't figured this out yet. I'm not saying we should abandon any state (if only for down ballot reasons), but we have to first secure what we can. That cannot involve any dilution of our standard bearers core message and appeal.
Another candidate than Biden may have had a bit more flexibility. But the idea of Bide is firmly implanted into the voting consciousness (as is the idea of Sanders). Much like the Clinton/Gore double down it will be important for Biden to find a true and perceived logical partner.
This is not 2016. The reality of Trump is an entirely different thing then the idea of Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Won by Clinton with a Democratic Governor and both Senators.
ORouke is a better choice for VP. Klobuchar since he might make Texas more competitive and would appeal to more on the left of the party.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
former9thward
(32,064 posts)Clinton won by just 1.5%
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
aeromanKC
(3,326 posts)Not a lot of people in all that red area.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
judeling
(1,086 posts)Don't think for a moment that Minnesota is that secure.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
aeromanKC
(3,326 posts)But agree it is not as deep blue as it used to be ala 1984. Nice to know that moderate Biden will be the Dem candidate. (he will be)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
judeling
(1,086 posts)Minnesota also had 2 republican Senators at the time one of whom won reelection that year.
Even then Minnesota wasn't all that Blue.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Plus both Senators and the Governor are Democrats. Current polling there has an unnamed Democrat beating Trump. Its a solid blue state.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
judeling
(1,086 posts)or Amy would not have to be flipping State chambers every time she has run. Don't forget how close it was in 2016 and that it was the only state that had 2 CD's flip from Blue to Red.
Also the Joe Biden of this last week is still the Joe Biden of the weeks before where he did indeed struggle with Suburban women.
We have to be clear eyed about this and Joe more survived then won. It was a "Damn Fine thing" to quote Wellington on Waterloo (meaning close).
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)And Biden is not struggling with suburban women.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)And I think it was fairly close in 2004 as well, though not as close.
There was a brief time in 2008 when polls showed McCain competitive there.
The reason people think it's solid blue is because it was the only state to vote for Mondale in 1984, but it was his home state (and he also barely won it).
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)And polling shows an unarmed Democrat beats Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lucid Dreamer
(584 posts)"Polling " doesn't elect candidates, voting does.
Otherwise we would be backing Hillary for reelection now.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Better choice is someone who can help flip a swing state.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)and states?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Please provide data to support that.
And what other seats?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)It is not a swing state.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Arizona is also a swing state. Just because it hasnt voted blue doesnt mean it cannot switch.
A swing state is a state that could potentially shift its preferences back and forth between the candidates of the two major political parties, the Republicans and the Democrats , in a U.S. Presidential Election. Swings states, which are also called battleground states, are in play in presidential elections where the popular vote is close so that the electoral college outcome is up for grabs.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Claiming that it is over and over again doesnt make it so. It is a solid blue state with a Democratic Governor and two Democratic Senators. Polling in the state already shows an unnamed democrat will beat Trump. Florida is a swing state better to find a VP that will help there and secure its 29 electoral votes than Minnesotas already secure 10 votes.
Sorry need to make one correction: the latest polls in Minnesota show Biden beating Trump by 12 points and Sanders beating him by 9.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mikelgb
(6,021 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)those pants--not your best look, girlfriend...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Raine
(30,540 posts)not good at all.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Raine
(30,540 posts)it's not a good look at all.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)young, sincere, relatable, experienced, non-polarizing, uniting, etc. full package.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,469 posts)the 2020 nomination, only 3 Democrats in the 192 year history of the party (Truman, barely, Buchanan, and the first Dem POTUS, Andrew Jackson) would have been older the fist time they were sworn in. The same even goes for Kamala Harris now, in 2020.
If Biden loses in 2020 and Klobuchar won in 2024, she would be the oldest first time Democrat President ever.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
applegrove
(118,745 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Your insinuating that Vice President Biden has made similar offers to other candidates however is simply more evidence, now coming out by the minute that Sanders devotees will take any simple occurrence twist it, poison it , exaggerate it, fabricate it, hallucinate about it because in their zero sum existence the only hope they have is to try and undermine the character of Joe Biden
It is a lie
Biden has a 5 decade record of decency.
Your reckless accusations do nothing to harm, they do reveal a lot about your lack of character.
It also confirms a wide and deep picture we have of Sanders supports and by extension the candidate you support.
Go Biden/Klobuchar.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lulu KC
(2,572 posts)as of this moment.
He would be taking on some stuff, but he has room to do so.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)my taste. She is not trustworthy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lulu KC
(2,572 posts)--or unrecommending her--I am seeing the more likely choice for him as of right now.
He also has room for Amy's challenges.
He has room for plenty of people's challenges--and none of them are perfect.
I hope he waits a while and let's some things shake out but of course am very curious!
P.S. I just read that Kamala would not endorse while Elizabeth was still in the game.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RelativelyJones
(898 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
musicblind
(4,484 posts)But Amy is also great and she can deliver Minnesota.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LiberalFighter
(51,020 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden