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question everything

(47,486 posts)
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:52 PM Mar 2020

Can we conclude that, first, the "first in the nation" results do not amount to much?

Second, that winning two small states that do not represent the country as as a whole do not "a front runner" make?

Third, either eliminate the caucuses or not have them front and center.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Can we conclude that, first, the "first in the nation" results do not amount to much? (Original Post) question everything Mar 2020 OP
They don't Todd79 Mar 2020 #1
And blue-wave Mar 2020 #2
You should have to be a party member Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #3
This really, should be the number one priority of the party question everything Mar 2020 #5
Iowa and New Hampshire are no longer relevant. MineralMan Mar 2020 #4
$300 million were spent this year in Iowa! question everything Mar 2020 #9
Let's imagine an alternate reality where Iowa and NH didn't happen. teamster633 Mar 2020 #6
They're too white. They don't represent. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #7
IA and NH shouldn't go first. Any state that insists on maintaining their Kahuna7 Mar 2020 #8
The problem Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #10
 

Todd79

(166 posts)
1. They don't
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:55 PM
Mar 2020

And it kind of throws it in Michael Moore’s face. Really on both sides. It’s all about schmoozing and it doesn’t prove who is a better candidate for a national election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blue-wave

(4,356 posts)
2. And
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:58 PM
Mar 2020

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do not let people who are not Democrats run for any office in the Democratic primary or in the general elections as a Democrat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turin_C3PO

(14,004 posts)
3. You should have to be a party member
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 02:03 PM
Mar 2020

for at least four years, IMO, to run for the Presidency as a Democrat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

question everything

(47,486 posts)
5. This really, should be the number one priority of the party
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 03:22 PM
Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
4. Iowa and New Hampshire are no longer relevant.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 02:19 PM
Mar 2020

We need to redesign the Democratic Party primary process. We should have done so before the 2020 election year.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

question everything

(47,486 posts)
9. $300 million were spent this year in Iowa!
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 06:05 PM
Mar 2020

And I don't believe we ever got the final results. And as we were told, the changes were made to placate Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

teamster633

(2,029 posts)
6. Let's imagine an alternate reality where Iowa and NH didn't happen.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 03:54 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie wins a caucus, a questionable indicator of party support to begin with. Then Joe wins big in the South Carolina primary, a much more representative demonstration of support. In this scenario we have no reason to be surprised when Bernie gets demolished on Super Tuesday and on Big Tuesday the following week. As soon as our party members were given an opportunity to make their preferences known, there was no question of who had their support. All this conspiracy-theory-rigged-DNC crap could have been avoided by starting our nominating process with states or groups of states that actually represent the diversity of the party, not the entitled opinions of the cloistered white people whose only claim to their position is some tradition of questionable provenance. I live in NH. I can't speak for Iowans, but we here in NH aren't the contemplative, discerning students of politics that our boosters would have you believe. We are no better or worse than everyone else in this country. The time for change has long passed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. They're too white. They don't represent.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 03:55 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
8. IA and NH shouldn't go first. Any state that insists on maintaining their
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 04:42 PM
Mar 2020

caucuses should be made to go last so that they don't skew the results.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turin_C3PO

(14,004 posts)
10. The problem
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 06:09 PM
Mar 2020

is that I believe New Hampshire has a rule that they’ll move their primary to the front of the pack, regardless of which states move up their dates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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