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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:16 AM Apr 2019

Krugman on Center for American Progress smears by one Dem Primary campaign




The smearing of CAP and @neeratanden is really something to behold, because it suggests that some people in both the media and political life have learned nothing. For the first time in a couple of years I'm starting to feel that Trump might get reelected.
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Krugman on Center for American Progress smears by one Dem Primary campaign (Original Post) ehrnst Apr 2019 OP
Paul Krugman and Josh Marshall know Cha Apr 2019 #1
Neera Tanden would easily make my top 5 if she were to enter the race. oasis Apr 2019 #2
I like her style. She always defends democratic principles and she does not back down. nt Blue_true Apr 2019 #21
Krugman gave a similar warning in September 2016. lapucelle Apr 2019 #3
Worth repeating dalton99a Apr 2019 #4
Yep. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #9
Do Not Repeat and Echo Democratic Party Candidates McKim Apr 2019 #5
Paul Krugman is a bot? N/T lapucelle Apr 2019 #7
Are you saying Paul Krugman is a bot? And are you saying that CAP was not ehrnst Apr 2019 #8
NEWSFLASH! Paul Krugman is NOT Cha Apr 2019 #11
No response? ehrnst Apr 2019 #18
Paul Krugman is a Nobel Prize winner and devout progressive. Blue_true Apr 2019 #22
I've been trying to say the same thing, but I always get alerted on Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #6
k&r nt Skidmore Apr 2019 #10
One look at what CAP does should make those who support Hortensis Apr 2019 #12
But saying that they were "out to get him and all progressives" certainly makes a more ehrnst Apr 2019 #13
Reminds me of when Sanders attacked Planned Parenthood, Hortensis Apr 2019 #14
Yes. I WISH that we lived in a reality where Planned Parenthood is "an establishment group" ehrnst Apr 2019 #15
:) We did for a while. Before much of the nation pivoted hard right. Hortensis Apr 2019 #17
True. But there are people who will never forget that he went after ehrnst Apr 2019 #19
Authoritative and astute opinion from a Nobel laureate BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #16
Kick Cha Apr 2019 #20
 

Cha

(297,257 posts)
1. Paul Krugman and Josh Marshall know
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:19 AM
Apr 2019

what's going on.



Thank you, ehrnst.
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oasis

(49,388 posts)
2. Neera Tanden would easily make my top 5 if she were to enter the race.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:57 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. I like her style. She always defends democratic principles and she does not back down. nt
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 11:00 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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dalton99a

(81,513 posts)
4. Worth repeating
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:09 AM
Apr 2019
And right now I and many others have the sick, sinking feeling that it’s happening again.

True, there aren’t many efforts to pretend that Donald Trump is a paragon of honesty. But it’s hard to escape the impression that he’s being graded on a curve. If he manages to read from a TelePrompter without going off script, he’s being presidential. If he seems to suggest that he wouldn’t round up all 11 million undocumented immigrants right away, he’s moving into the mainstream. And many of his multiple scandals, like what appear to be clear payoffs to state attorneys general to back off investigating Trump University, get remarkably little attention.

Meanwhile, we have the presumption that anything Hillary Clinton does must be corrupt, most spectacularly illustrated by the increasingly bizarre coverage of the Clinton Foundation. ...

So I would urge journalists to ask whether they are reporting facts or simply engaging in innuendo, and urge the public to read with a critical eye. If reports about a candidate talk about how something “raises questions,” creates “shadows,” or anything similar, be aware that these are all too often weasel words used to create the impression of wrongdoing out of thin air.
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McKim

(2,412 posts)
5. Do Not Repeat and Echo Democratic Party Candidates
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:28 AM
Apr 2019

Do not echo put downs of Democratic Party candidates. Do not take the bait that the bots are offering. Talk about your candidate’s platforms and good points and call out those who bash. Stay classy!

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lapucelle

(18,265 posts)
7. Paul Krugman is a bot? N/T
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:44 AM
Apr 2019
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
8. Are you saying Paul Krugman is a bot? And are you saying that CAP was not
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 11:11 AM
Apr 2019

bashed by the Sanders both in a public letter and for fundraising purposes?

Or is that your idea of praise?

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Cha

(297,257 posts)
11. NEWSFLASH! Paul Krugman is NOT
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:40 PM
Apr 2019

one of your bots!

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
18. No response?
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 02:18 PM
Apr 2019

Not surprised. You don't have the nerve to defend that smear, so you go silent when called out.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
22. Paul Krugman is a Nobel Prize winner and devout progressive.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 11:03 PM
Apr 2019

He is not remotely a Bot.

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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
6. I've been trying to say the same thing, but I always get alerted on
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:39 AM
Apr 2019

Maybe folks will listen to Krugman instead...

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. One look at what CAP does should make those who support
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:58 PM
Apr 2019

attacks on it mindlessly because they support him ashamed. It's like stomping on their own claimed principles. Just a few grabbed from dozens ALL on the right side of morality, liberalism and progressivism:

Conservatives Are Using the Courts to Attack Health Care for All Americans

Introducing Clean Slate: The Center for American Progress and partners gathered to discuss bipartisan clean slate legislation—policies to automatically clear certain criminal records and give people relief from discrimination.

Bold Democracy Reforms That Build on H.R. 1: Americans are expecting far-reaching solutions to return power to the people—and federal lawmakers are beginning to act to do so.

The Apprenticeship Wage and Participation Gap

How the Trump Administration Is Undoing College Accreditation

Not Enough Cops on the Beat: IRS Cuts Have Benefited Wealthy Tax Cheats

Advancing #MeToo in a Post-Kavanaugh Confirmation World

CAP Analysis Reveals Oil and Gas Leases That Threaten Wildlife Corridors

Race Has Everything to Do with Trump’s Budget. Here’s Why.

Phoenix Home to 31,000 Dreamers and TPS/DED Holders Eligible for the Dream and Promise Act
Chicago Home to 37,000 Dreamers and TPS/DED Holders Eligible for the Dream and Promise Act

Tax Day 2019: How To Unrig the Tax Code


https://www.americanprogress.org/

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
13. But saying that they were "out to get him and all progressives" certainly makes a more
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 02:02 PM
Apr 2019

compelling fundraising ask, doesn't it?

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Reminds me of when Sanders attacked Planned Parenthood,
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 02:04 PM
Apr 2019

angry because they could only endorse one candidate and chose the woman who's devoted her professional life to improving the wellbeing of women and children.

Of course, in retrospect he must have been trying to turn that to advantage by appealing to the conservatives he was trying to draw. But then I assumed he was just, as usual, viewing all who weren't in his train as problems to stomp.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
15. Yes. I WISH that we lived in a reality where Planned Parenthood is "an establishment group"
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 02:05 PM
Apr 2019


But I guess if one believes that they are the measure of all that is "progressive" whosoever does not fall in behind is "corrupt" or to use the perjorative unironically used by a 30 years on Capitol Hill career politician, "establishment."
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Hortensis

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17. :) We did for a while. Before much of the nation pivoted hard right.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 02:16 PM
Apr 2019

Btw, attacking Planned Parenthood backfired badly on him. He's since repaired his official position, if not his history.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
19. True. But there are people who will never forget that he went after
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 02:25 PM
Apr 2019

a group that actually GOT affordable health care to women, with no judgement.

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BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
16. Authoritative and astute opinion from a Nobel laureate
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 02:11 PM
Apr 2019

K&R

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