I don't believe for a second that trump is "afraid" of Joe Biden getting into the race. He would

[monmouth4]

like for us to believe that, but I strongly doubt it. He thinks Joe is too old and past his time, as many here feel the same way. He feels he could beat Joe in the election for those exact reasons. What he is afraid of are the young, energetic and fantastic candidates that are in the running. He is scared of most of our candidates, and he should be. Don't get me wrong, Joe is a good man, he looked great with Obama. Those days are over.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. I don't think Democrats should choose their nominee based on a perception

of who Trump is "afraid of." Choose the person who actually can defeat him. Who that is still remains to be determined.

[monmouth4]

2. I strongly doubt that would be Biden..n/t

[BannonsLiver]

3. I strongly doubt he's afraid of any of them

Which is why I think your OP is built on a false premise.

[SFnomad]

7. +1

tRump is a legend in his own mind. He thinks he can beat all of them, easily. Let's hope that is his downfall.

[dalton99a]

8. +1. The only person Trump is afraid of is Putin.

[delisen]

34. Trump treat Putin like Alpha Male nt

[Cha]

38. Oh yeah.. trump is the submissive

dog.

[BlueFlorida]

10. +1 nt

[Kurt V.]

51. +1

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

30. That remains to be seen. It's still early.

[Gothmog]

62. Washington Post-'Electability' and 'Bernie' don't belong in the same sentence

Link to tweet

“A combined 58 percent of voters are either uncomfortable (37 percent) or have reservations about (21 percent) Bernie Sanders’ 2020 bid. For Elizabeth Warren, it’s a combined 53 percent. And for Kamala Harris and Beto O’Rourke, it’s 41 percent of voters expressing either reservations or discomfort.” Given that the overwhelming number of voters know who Sanders is, there is no excuse — as there is for other candidates — that they have insufficient information to decide whether to vote for him. Sanders is about as well known as former vice president Joe Biden, yet the poll shows that Biden’s comfortable/uncomfortable rating (48/48) clearly outpaces Sanders’s (37/58).....

Sanders’s age, the “socialist” moniker he embraces and his 2016 campaign problem with women are not going to change during the race. It’s unlikely his personality or his familiarity with foreign policy will improve, either. (The guy is 77, and if we have learned anything from Trump, it is that septuagenarians don’t change their personalities nor attend to habitual deficits in knowledge.) Oh, and on Sunday he again promised to release his tax returns, which he promised over a month ago would be “soon.”

[oasis]

71. +1

[marylandblue]

33. + 1000 If this were a military strategy, we would have botched D-Day.

The Germans were afraid we'd land at Calais, as that was the most obvious spot. So we landed at Normandy instead.

[robbedvoter]

68. Excellent point!

I think 🍊 remains afraid of strong women. I also think we're done with old white men, for a while at least.

[highplainsdem]

4. Jf Trump's aware of the many polls showing Biden beating Trump by the largest margin of any Democrat

then he has every reason to be afraid of him.

[Kahuna7]

9. Reality nt

[Lazy Daisy]

22. That's now. Wait 6 months

After all the warm fuzzy wears off, and he's not seen as Obama's #1 man but his own man.

[peggysue2]

26. Yes, and the Trumpster is even struggling with a damning moniker

Sleepy Joe isn't working. Any of the 'touchy-feely' accusations will not work for someone like Trump who has been accused of actual assault by multiple women. The segregation issue back in the 70's? How does that play for the Trumpster who has revealed himself as a flat-out bigot in real-time? The biggest advantage that Biden has is his knowledge and experience, his know-how in foreign policy and the solid relationships he's developed over many years. Not to mention Biden's working-class creds that threaten Trump's beloved base support.

Biden would be a formidable candidate and Trump knows it all too well.

[kimbutgar]

5. They probably have their smear campaign all ready to go against Biden

Just like they had their plans ready to go after Hillary Clinton, and they probably have their smear campaign against Bernie also. We need some new candidates.

And I love Joe Biden.

[SFnomad]

13. It's naive to believe any candidate that has a possible shot at winning the nomination

isn't getting deeply investigated by the tRump campaign, so that they can be smeared as soon as they clinch the nomination.

[area51]

6. "He thinks Joe is too old and past his time...."

Which is ironic as #GrandpaTrump suffers from #Dementia.

Let's annoy Trump: #PresidentMiller

[floppyboo]

37. HaHa! Good one! #PresidentMiller. Worked for getting rid of Bannon at least!

[WeekiWater]

11. I think Trump is afraid of a lot of things.

I don’t think any of our candidates make that list. Strange to only point out Uncle Joe whole highlighting he is afraid of others.

[Kahuna7]

12. All the polls I've seen have only Biden beating trump outside the MoE.

He has reason to fear Biden. AS far as Biden being OLD....so is trump. As far as Biden being past his time...all the poll respondents know he's old and they prefer him over everyone else at this point.

[rusty fender]

47. All the polls showed that Hillary would beat Trump

And as we’ve consistently seen through the years, the Repukes are hypocrites who aren’t hesitant to apply their own shortcomings against the Democrats.

The Repukes will hammer the inappropriate touching of women by Biden. They already argue that Trumpass’s grabbing is irrelevant because the American people elected him despite that. The same thing will be said about Biden’s age. The Repukes will say that the American people have already decided that Trumpass’s age is okay because they already voted for him.

It doesn’t matter that their arguments are illogical and downright stupid; to too many people in this country those arguments will be persuasive. Repukes get away this shit all the time

I will say that I believe all of our candidates can beat Trumpass, and I will vote for whomever wins the primary

[Kahuna7]

49. Have you not heard about the russia active measures and misinformation

campaign that gradually decreased her standing??? No one can stop republican dirty tricks. They will find something to attack all the Dems. Bernie would have the most damaging oppo based on a treasure trove of his pro socialism, anti capitalism, acceptance of communism musings in video and print. The gop want bernie because they will smear all Democrats as socialists and we'll lose tickets down ticket.

According to the current polls, only Biden beats trump outside the MoE. So, if the other Dems are almost in a deficit at this point, they will be at a greater deficit come election day. Voters will vote for the Devil they know will likely prevail.

Regardless of what you believe, if voters could opt for someone like trump against a great candidate like Hillary, the others this time don't stand a chance because not one of them can match Hillary's accomplishments except for one. That candidate is Joseph Robinette Biden.

[rusty fender]

56. Bullshit!

The polls aren’t set in stone

[Kahuna7]

58. Bullshit to you!

[jalan48]

14. I don't think Trump is "afraid" of any politician. From what we have learned from Cohen he didn't

even think he would win the Presidency in 2016. He could decline to run in 2020, claim dementia and probably escape any prosecution for his misdeeds. Spending his final days golfing at his golf courses would be a dream situation for him, all the while playing the former President of the United States.

[David__77]

15. I think that Trump would have a hard time against him certainly.

I don't think his strategists prefer to run against Biden. That said, I don't think that that should determine who will be the Democratic nominee.

[Freethinker65]

16. Trump is only afraid of his own shadow catching up to him and exposing him

He is a brain addled bloated narcissistic shallow charlatan afraid of ridicule.

He runs and hides to his comfortable surroundings where his interactions with people have been bought and paid for. His properties and rallies are his only safe spaces to bask in adulation.

[TwilightZone]

17. "He thinks Joe is too old and past his time, as many here feel the same way. "

Speak for yourself.

"He feels he could beat Joe in the election for those exact reasons."

Facts not in evidence.

[TwilightZone]

18. Biden does better than anyone in head-to-head polls against Trump.

Your assertion that Trump can't possibly be concerned about that is baseless.

[not_the_one]

19. They (turdface and all republicans) can do nothing but lie.

The only way they can win is lie and cheat. They CAN'T win on the truth.

If they say they are afraid of Biden, then they WANT Biden, thinking they already have enough ammo to use against him. Unfortunately, I think that is a valid concern.

Anita Hill will be re-fought, seriously reducing AA turnout. It doesn't matter that he has apologized for his part in that travesty. That will not be enough for many, and that group will be exploited to the max.

His penchant for physical closeness to express support to individual women will be examined in minute detail, seriously affecting women voter turnout. More Me Too examples will come out of the woodwork to further divide us.

He is notorious for his gaffes. And every new one will be yet another horse that is beaten to a dead pulp by those trying to take him down, or at least trying to make it a neck-in-neck horse race for ratings...

I like the man. But I don't think he can weather the media and social media onslaught that is waiting for him.

HOWEVER, I will vote for him in a heartbeat, if he is our nominee.

[Demsrule86]

21. He has already been vetted and the old shit will amout nothing. He will win the nomination.

[not_the_one]

42. I am not concerned about the primary for the nomination.

It is the general election where they will re-throw all the shit they can.

And for those who are not political junkies, like us, it may all be new information to them. Enough could stick to negate the win.

The low-information voter is our worst nightmare. They can be told how to vote, and they will march into the voting booth and do just that. We need to increase their political awareness.

We DO need to get that apparently HUGE block of people who haven't voted, to vote. But they need to do so with a modicum of political smarts. Democrats need to be front and center in that education process.

This will be a (for real) make or break election. If we don't succeed in introducing accountability back into the process, we are done. Stick a fork in US.

Like I said, I will vote for whomever is the nominee.

[Demsrule86]

43. Let them. We are dealing with a pussy grabber who is a criminal

So I think Biden can win. He is the only one who can win in my opinion.

[rusty fender]

59. This!

These posts that claim that only Biden can beat Trumpass are so annoying

[Demsrule86]

65. He ran against a woman who was attacked for 30 years.

She was deeply unpopular...not with me. I love her.Biden can carry the three Trump states Needed. And then Trump is out. I am not looking for the pure and the perfect...just a candidate who can win. No one is worse than Trump on any issue including Roe. We are looking for an electoral college win.

[robbedvoter]

69. Hillary carried those states too (didja hear about Florida?)

Link to tweet

and beat him by 3 million. Support your candidate. But badmouth her and you'll never get our support. (that goes for the candidates too)

[CaliforniaPeggy]

45. The day that POC listen to tRump over Biden will be the day hell freezes over. n/t

[Demsrule86]

20. Trump is old himself and Biden can take PA and other rustbelt states away from Trump so he is

worried. Biden is the only candidate that can beat Trump.

[ucrdem]

24. This.

Exactamente.

[Demsrule86]

25. I love most of our candidates but I think folks here don't understand the power of the electoral

college map...victory goes through WI, MI, PA ...and we might even get Ohio with Biden possibly.

[peggysue2]

28. Exactly right again, Demsrule

WI, MI, PA. That's how we lost 2016. That's how we win in 2020 and Biden has the strongest track in those states with his solid working-class creds. The Trumpster and his enablers know that, too.

[Cha]

40. And, trump.. looks and acts a hellava

LOT older that Joe Biden.

[Demsrule86]

41. He sure does.

[Thekaspervote]

54. Yes.. it's dotard's mind set. Ancient, decrepit, crotchety, fat, stupid, ignorant, arrogant, rigid,

Angry, hateful, racist, illiterate, bully, physically old, mentally old. I could go on..please feel free to add to my list. We’ve all known people that truly are chronologically older than their actually age.

[Cha]

55. trump is his own worst

enemy.. just like a lot of people who put others down to build themselves up.

I think you've covered his descriptions, Tkv.. he's a glutton, and the junk he consumes oozes out on his surface.

[ucrdem]

23. Oh he's as terrified of ghosts as any RWNJ, and Biden is more than a ghost

Biden is his future as a one-term chuckle. So yeah I'd say he's scared.

[yaesu]

27. I think running against Bernie would scare the hell out of tRump along with the rest of the fascists

but they would never admit it. We are not going to pick a candidate based on that anyway, each candidate will be judged on their merits.

[SummerSnow]

29. Trump is afraid of 3 things...

1. SDNY
2. Losing his base
3. The release of his taxes

[standingtall]

31. There is only 2 or 3 or 4 at the most of our candidates

Trump would seriously afraid of running against and Biden is one of them. Youth is overrated. If our nominee is too young that could actually be a negative in the general.

[RHMerriman]

32. Someone who is confident doesn't say this:

Someone who is confident doesn't say this:

"Oh my God, this is terrible. This is the end of my presidency. I’m fucked.” - Donald J. Trump

However, our nominee, and the Democratic Congress, has to be strong enough to finish off this fiasco, since the GOP obviously is too compromised and too cowardly to do so.

[brush]

35. IMO Biden would beat trump too. I still remember how he spanked Ryan in the 2012 VP debate.

Biden appeals to many of the same working class demographic as trump does and he's much more likeable and thus will pull some of those voters from trump.

Who else is really afraid of Joe Biden is Sanders (see the Lucy Flores attacks on Biden. It's pretty obvious OR sent her out to do that).

I'm undecided but leaning to Harris or Warren but I'd gladly support Joe if gets the nomination.

[lark]

36. I obviously disagree.

I think Joe would be his worst nightmare, fighting him toe to toe and being the real populist and not the fake (me, myself and I) pretend populism of drumpf that really is nothing more than fascism in thin disguise. Confronted with the real deal vs. fake orange shit, think Biden can win with a large enough margin to overcome the vote stealing and ratfuckery of the election in the red states which is sadly a total given.

[helpisontheway]

39. Joe might be a few years older but he is healthier than that orange blob. Nt

[BlueStater]

44. I think the narrative that only Biden can beat him is utter bullshit myself.

Any of our candidates can beat that fucker. I'm not saying it would be a cakewalk, but they're certainly capable of defeating that shitass. Again, I'm not buying this stuff about a nearly 80-year-old man with a tendency of shoving both feet in his mouth as our great savior. It's nonsense.

[melman]

46. Of course he's not

Biden is the worst possible candidate and they know it.

[BannonsLiver]

61. I think you meant to say Bernie.

[melman]

63. You think wrong

[BluegrassDem]

48. Biden has gravitas, which is something no other candidate has

Also, he's not afraid of going after Trump directly like the other candidates. Trump is scared to death of Biden.

[Kahuna7]

50. +1,000,000

[LakeArenal]

52. I disagree....

Joe has been called beloved.
Something Trump wants desperately.

Joe is a great friend of John McCain.
I think lots of Bush republicans might be swayed by that.

Joe Biden is part of an Obama legacy.
That’s enough right there to threatenDump

[BlueFlorida]

57. New line of approach

by the devotees of Patron Saint of Slogans.

"Trump is not afraid of candidate X but he is deathly afraid and shaking in his boots at the thought of their candidate."

[Gothmog]

60. Trump Shows That He Is Totally Terrified Of Joe Biden

trump wants to run against sanders and is afraid of Joe Biden

Link to tweet

The Republican Party would love to run against Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) because they could make the election all about Sanders and socialism instead of Trump. They want to run against Buttigieg because they think they can use his sexual orientation and youth against him.

The person that Trump can’t figure out is Joe Biden. Trump has tried the “Sleepy Joe” attack but has flopped. Trump has now moved on to trying to attack Biden’s populism by coining him “1% Joe.” This also won’t work, especially coming from Donald Trump. Trump fears Biden’s populism and former vice president’s appeal in Rust Belt states.

Biden scares Trump, and that fear is never more obvious than when Trump starts talking about his potential opponents in 2020.

[loyalsister]

64. I don't buy it either

I think there's a lot of excess confidence in Biden. Having an early presumed candidate formula didn't help last time.

[lastlib]

66. Joe could make the very same argument about a 74-y/o tRump.

So the issue is moot. tRump is showing definite signs of dementia; Joe isn't (AFAIK). Any argument based on their ages would fail.

[Gothmog]

67. trump is clearly scared of Joe Biden

Link to tweet

?s=20

[Cha]

70. Haha.. thanks, Goth.