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BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:06 PM Apr 2019

Is referring to Bernie Sanders as "BS" a subtle way of insulting him?

I know its his initials, but none of the other candidates are referred to by theirs. Joe Biden isn't called "JB", Kamala Harris isn't called "KH", Pete Buttigieg isn't called "PB", etc.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Is referring to Bernie Sanders as "BS" a subtle way of insulting him? (Original Post) BlueStater Apr 2019 OP
PBO...HRC Me. Apr 2019 #1
Bernie Sanders doesn't seem to have a middle name. BlueStater Apr 2019 #4
Oh For Heaven Sake Me. Apr 2019 #7
Obama can accurately be called POTUS too. The context will make clear irisblue Apr 2019 #60
IBS doesn't work temporarily while he's officially Democrat, Hortensis Apr 2019 #81
Don't think is supporters would like that one either Andy823 Apr 2019 #131
Oh, no! :) I just threw that out. Hortensis Apr 2019 #132
How about SBS? if BHO can be called PBO (because we fear the middle name), JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2019 #116
No catbyte Apr 2019 #2
BS and his supporters, always playing the victim card SFnomad Apr 2019 #3
i'm going to go out on a limb and say yes. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #5
BS has earned a lot of opposition n/t SFnomad Apr 2019 #6
Yep. He has worked extremely hard for it. NT WeekiWater Apr 2019 #8
He had help. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2019 #27
Only here. Otherwise he leads all other candidates in the polls onit2day Apr 2019 #12
That doesn't make sense as a reply to what was stated. NT WeekiWater Apr 2019 #15
No, BS doesn't lead "all other candidates", he comes up short against Joe Biden SFnomad Apr 2019 #17
I heard Wednesday but don't quote me...no proof. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #21
I've heard the same, from multiple sources. As long as nobody says "soon" n/t SFnomad Apr 2019 #28
Right, it is time. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #38
"But he's not a candidate!" George II Apr 2019 #149
bs..... 😆 LakeArenal Apr 2019 #162
Not after next week. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #23
? George II Apr 2019 #26
No, he doesn't. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #126
Ouch!! That one's gonna Bern!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #152
More like a false statement that was easily swatted away BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #178
that seems a little excessive... All I know is every time I see "Sanders", I think the post is about hlthe2b Apr 2019 #9
Uh oh NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #29
Yes, and I've seen some around here, when an article about Huckleberry is posted.... George II Apr 2019 #46
I've been criticized for referring to SHS by her last name alone in subject lines. So, SHS and BS. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #140
Location, location, location and maybe some context. TexasTowelie Apr 2019 #117
No. It's called initials. GaYellowDawg Apr 2019 #10
Initials that can also stand for something completely unflattering. BlueStater Apr 2019 #11
Well, then, get pissed at his parents. GaYellowDawg Apr 2019 #14
Wow, you seem touchy. BlueStater Apr 2019 #16
I am touchy. GaYellowDawg Apr 2019 #39
I'm sorry you're having a bad day. BlueStater Apr 2019 #53
Fair enough. GaYellowDawg Apr 2019 #55
No problem. BlueStater Apr 2019 #59
Quite Me. Apr 2019 #65
So what that has been going on forever. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #20
So what? BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #179
So what in that when I see people type BS, I don't just think they mean Bernie Sanders. BlueStater Apr 2019 #184
Often, we refer to people by the easiest shortcut. murielm99 Apr 2019 #13
I never liked using HRC, only because it's also the same initials for the Human Rights Campaign SFnomad Apr 2019 #24
LBJ took the IRT down to murielm99 Apr 2019 #30
And when he got down there he looked around and said "BFD"! George II Apr 2019 #87
It is his initials. So no. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #18
Yes. It's an insult. zentrum Apr 2019 #19
JFK, FDR, HMT, DDE, JFK, LBJ, RMN, RFK, WJC, BHO (and sometimes PBO), HRC, etc. George II Apr 2019 #22
I never said that no one is ever referred to by their initials. BlueStater Apr 2019 #33
None of the other 19 or so candidates have been out there for 3-4 years, people aren't familiar... George II Apr 2019 #41
What a BS question LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #25
LOL Scurrilous Apr 2019 #43
Just a lot of bs LakeArenal Apr 2019 #163
Yep. shanny Apr 2019 #31
Well, that's exactly why I never use that for Bernie, but did with HRC and do with others like AOC. KPN Apr 2019 #32
Oh, what a shame... louis c Apr 2019 #34
+1 What a petty concern on the same day we learn the contents of the report Ponietz Apr 2019 #52
Have to distract from the part of the report that reveals the support for Sanders LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #57
+1 nt Skidmore Apr 2019 #95
Maybe some of the BS supporters (including the BS press secretary) are still in denial lapucelle Apr 2019 #76
Sometimes, when character length is not an issue, yes. Freethinker65 Apr 2019 #35
Among some militants, it's intended as an insult. David__77 Apr 2019 #36
More like an amusing coincidence LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #40
"Militants"? I thought the run of the mill everyday Democrats were "Establishment".... George II Apr 2019 #42
I'm guessing the "Establishment" slur isn't have the same effect it used to SFnomad Apr 2019 #45
As another comment on another thread.. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #164
... mcar Apr 2019 #58
Oh? Is "militants" your slur word Cha Apr 2019 #97
... Me. Apr 2019 #128
More exciting than being called the usual centrists/Republicans. betsuni Apr 2019 #136
I think he means "Warriors for Democracy" Cha Apr 2019 #141
Remember what happened to French fries. Maybe Dems should start calling canapes betsuni Apr 2019 #142
I do remember what happened to Cha Apr 2019 #144
For "FDR Democrats": betsuni Apr 2019 #146
Oooops! Establishment! Cha Apr 2019 #147
Ssshhhh. I think they mean ME!!! LakeArenal Apr 2019 #166
We! We are Warriors for Democracy! Cha Apr 2019 #183
It can be seen as that, I believe some do it because they don't like the guy yaesu Apr 2019 #37
I made a similar post a few weeks ago. I believe it ALBliberal Apr 2019 #44
Guess you never heard of LBJ, JFK, HRC... comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #158
Perhaps so... Mike Nelson Apr 2019 #47
Calling a Senator and Presidential candidate "Bernie" is a suble way of making him more likeable, so LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #48
Good observation about "Bernie." David__77 Apr 2019 #77
no but some folks qazplm135 Apr 2019 #49
Perpetual faux outrage LakeArenal Apr 2019 #167
Depends on the context. But of course, for those who want it to be an insult, MH1 Apr 2019 #50
Yes. It's a juvenile insult. left-of-center2012 Apr 2019 #51
yes but it doesn't matter KayF Apr 2019 #54
I'll go hip-hop: B-SAND. no_hypocrisy Apr 2019 #56
Here...let me drop you 2 irisblue Apr 2019 #63
You are so cool! no_hypocrisy Apr 2019 #66
Oh for heavens sake, get a grip. redstatebluegirl Apr 2019 #61
I like how everyone in this thread assumes I'm a Bernie Sanders supporter simply because I question BlueStater Apr 2019 #71
Whether you are a Sanders supporter or not, the rest of redstatebluegirl's post is a perfect reponse LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #75
Exactly Me. Apr 2019 #92
Of course it is.. Always? Of course not. pangaia Apr 2019 #62
lol fail ! stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #64
I've seen you post the exact same response in other threads you apparently find disagreeable. BlueStater Apr 2019 #67
lol fail ! stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #85
Yes, all your posts in this thread have been massive failures. n/t BlueStater Apr 2019 #86
No they haven't.. Cha Apr 2019 #100
When you are right, you are right! LakeArenal Apr 2019 #169
Oh look, it's this thread again...nt SidDithers Apr 2019 #68
LOL. So I guess I'm not the first person curious about this, am I? n/t BlueStater Apr 2019 #69
Yeah, the question pops up with regularity... SidDithers Apr 2019 #72
Does a bear shit in the woods? jalan48 Apr 2019 #70
SBS is a good sub if u want 2 shorten & don't want to look immature floppyboo Apr 2019 #73
Hmm; but, you said: LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #79
Almost identical thread from March 8 MineralMan Apr 2019 #74
So what is that old saying.... LakeArenal Apr 2019 #170
No, they're his initials. lapucelle Apr 2019 #78
It's all so very... NurseJackie Apr 2019 #82
Hmmm. BlueStater Apr 2019 #84
What difference does it make? Who cares? Personally, I believe... NurseJackie Apr 2019 #101
Bazinga! George II Apr 2019 #133
Is it subtle? /nt tonedevil Apr 2019 #80
If the shoe fits .. BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #83
Or, apparently, DU usernames. n/t namahage Apr 2019 #88
I call him St. Bern, problem solved. Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #89
I guess you're not feeling the BS. Scurrilous Apr 2019 #90
I don't see it that way DesertRat Apr 2019 #91
Just look at who answers no artislife Apr 2019 #93
I'm happy to admit my dislike for Sanders; he earned it LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #94
Did he stop voting with us in the Senate? artislife Apr 2019 #98
Yes, personal glory. We were faced with the election of Donald Trump with a Republican Congress LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #102
+Millions! Cha Apr 2019 #104
I Stand With You On That Me. Apr 2019 #127
Funny, that is how I felt like someone artislife Apr 2019 #106
You mean the person that Sanders supporters called "Hitlary", "Shrillary", and "Killary"? LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #107
And what did some call Obama? artislife Apr 2019 #111
I'm done LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #112
Well said! Bravo!!! lunamagica Apr 2019 #154
Amen! THIS is the reality of what happened and R B Garr Apr 2019 #155
Perfectly stated... BooScout Apr 2019 #173
Exactly. Except I Cha Apr 2019 #99
I remember artislife Apr 2019 #118
Yep. That's the giveaway. No real Sanders supporter ever refers to him by first and last initials Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #96
I don't deny it; as I said, I find it an amusing coincidence. LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #105
Fair enough. n/t Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #119
Oh, good grief. Skidmore Apr 2019 #103
of course it is. and no so subtle either. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #108
Yeah, it is. Tiggeroshii Apr 2019 #109
Nobody here dislikes Bernie any more than I do. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #182
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #110
Those Are His Initials... dlk Apr 2019 #113
Those Are His Initials... dlk Apr 2019 #114
Not so much subtle, but yes. Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #115
Yes, I use it intentionally as an insult. NBachers Apr 2019 #120
... NurseJackie Apr 2019 #121
Honesty is the best policy, don't you agree? NBachers Apr 2019 #123
.. Cha Apr 2019 #145
Hahahaha BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #181
No LiberalFighter Apr 2019 #122
no Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #124
I don't know, is it? FDR, JFK, even ocassionally you saw Obama referred to as BO. Fla Dem Apr 2019 #125
"Yes, I use it intentionally as an insult." from upthread. Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #130
Should we all expect sternly worded letters soon? W_HAMILTON Apr 2019 #129
Yes a couple of people use it as an abbreviation of Bull Shit, BS or bs. nt Autumn Apr 2019 #134
It's a little insult used by people who don't like Sanders because he's divisive. dgauss Apr 2019 #135
Glad to see you've come around to that. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #180
+1 MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #190
I think referring to him as the MyNameGoesHere Apr 2019 #137
Too much to type. But I look forward to you typing every time. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #168
They think it's clever melman Apr 2019 #138
Who is "they?" (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #189
lol melman Apr 2019 #191
Thought so. ehrnst Apr 2019 #192
Thought what? melman Apr 2019 #193
LOL. ehrnst Apr 2019 #194
lol melman Apr 2019 #195
Lulz. ehrnst Apr 2019 #196
Complain about imagined nefarious intentions on the part of others, I guess, ehrnst Apr 2019 #197
I don't necessarily think so Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2019 #139
For some posters there is a pattern of use of "bs" and deliberate lowercase "sanders" Devil Child Apr 2019 #143
Oh NO! The horror! LOWER CASE "sanders" instead of BS? Really?? Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! NurseJackie Apr 2019 #148
Not a horror, just telling of the poster's bias when used Devil Child Apr 2019 #151
But it bothered you enough to speculate about a poster's motivation or intent.... NurseJackie Apr 2019 #157
I agree wholeheartedly on bias NurseJackie Devil Child Apr 2019 #159
DOn'T soMe PeOPLe dO THiS ? lapucelle Apr 2019 #160
OMG! You're killing me! NurseJackie Apr 2019 #161
+∞ LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #165
Probably means a new keyboard or a keyboard cleaning is needed. Devil Child Apr 2019 #172
Many real democrats do not believe that sanders is electable Gothmog Apr 2019 #150
Thank you for sharing this opinion Devil Child Apr 2019 #153
In the real world, sanders is not electable Gothmog Apr 2019 #174
In the real world, Sen. Sanders is electable Devil Child Apr 2019 #175
If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states Gothmog Apr 2019 #176
Does he have a middle name? I'll add that initial. roody Apr 2019 #156
Roflmfao. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #171
I'm 100% Sanders But Don't Mind It corbettkroehler Apr 2019 #177
It's not all that subtile, is it? comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #185
Well EW isn't exactly flattering either... BooScout Apr 2019 #186
If Mayor Pete got the nomination and chose Biden for VP, we'd have "PB & J" LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #187
Of course, its why they use it. BeckyDem Apr 2019 #188
 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
1. PBO...HRC
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:07 PM
Apr 2019

Lots of initials are used

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
4. Bernie Sanders doesn't seem to have a middle name.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:10 PM
Apr 2019

His full name is just Bernard Sanders, so he can't really be referred to initials-wise as anything other than BS. That's unfortunate.

At least Barack Obama could be referred to as BHO.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
7. Oh For Heaven Sake
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:13 PM
Apr 2019

and if someone refers to Beto as BO is that going to develop into an issue too? It's a shortcut.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

irisblue

(32,975 posts)
60. Obama can accurately be called POTUS too. The context will make clear
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:50 PM
Apr 2019

When it is BHO & the ApricotHellbeast.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
81. IBS doesn't work temporarily while he's officially Democrat,
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:45 PM
Apr 2019

but as soon as he withdraws from the party again to become I - Bernie Sanders we can use that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
131. Don't think is supporters would like that one either
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 05:50 PM
Apr 2019

First thing you see when you do a search for IBS is "Irritable bowel syndrome".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
132. Oh, no! :) I just threw that out.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 05:58 PM
Apr 2019

Promise the levels it’s so bad on were accidental. “Irritable” works for me though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,343 posts)
116. How about SBS? if BHO can be called PBO (because we fear the middle name),
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:39 PM
Apr 2019

then Bernie can be SBS.

And WTF is with calling BHO by the initials PBO?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
3. BS and his supporters, always playing the victim card
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:10 PM
Apr 2019

This is politics ... you need some thicker skin for this sport.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
5. i'm going to go out on a limb and say yes.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:10 PM
Apr 2019

I'm only stating that because I don't recall seeing any of his supporters us it.

BS has a lot of opposition.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
6. BS has earned a lot of opposition n/t
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:12 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
8. Yep. He has worked extremely hard for it. NT
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:13 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
12. Only here. Otherwise he leads all other candidates in the polls
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:17 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
15. That doesn't make sense as a reply to what was stated. NT
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:19 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
17. No, BS doesn't lead "all other candidates", he comes up short against Joe Biden
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:20 PM
Apr 2019

And after next week, you won't be able to get away with the "announced candidates" bs.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,578 posts)
21. I heard Wednesday but don't quote me...no proof.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:22 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
28. I've heard the same, from multiple sources. As long as nobody says "soon" n/t
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:24 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,578 posts)
38. Right, it is time.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:30 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
149. "But he's not a candidate!"
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 09:26 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,578 posts)
23. Not after next week.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:23 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
126. No, he doesn't.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 05:29 PM
Apr 2019

Outside of Emerson, which appears to be an outlier, Biden's ahead pretty much everywhere.

Unless, of course, you're making a semantic argument that Biden isn't a candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
152. Ouch!! That one's gonna Bern!!
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 09:54 AM
Apr 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
178. More like a false statement that was easily swatted away
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 04:33 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

hlthe2b

(102,283 posts)
9. that seems a little excessive... All I know is every time I see "Sanders", I think the post is about
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:14 PM
Apr 2019

that horrible liar, Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

So, I'd find BS preferred or Bernie or Bernie Sanders or Senator Sanders. But, I surely don't see the problem with using initials for any of the candidates if one so chooses.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
29. Uh oh
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:25 PM
Apr 2019

Now they'll demand that nobody refer to Him by His last name. It's BERRRRNNNIEEEEEE!!! Or maybe some form of a godlike representation, like YHWH?

Or, Thou must not insult Bernie's Holy Name.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
46. Yes, and I've seen some around here, when an article about Huckleberry is posted....
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:37 PM
Apr 2019

....using the actual headline like "Sanders bashes Democrats" (not a real headline, just a hypothetical, no real ones come to mind) there has been wailing and gnashing of teeth about that, too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,990 posts)
140. I've been criticized for referring to SHS by her last name alone in subject lines. So, SHS and BS.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:19 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TexasTowelie

(112,209 posts)
117. Location, location, location and maybe some context.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:43 PM
Apr 2019

When I see Sanders I think of Deion Sanders since he played for the Dallas Cowboys. Up in Michigan, some might think it refers to Barry Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

GaYellowDawg

(4,447 posts)
10. No. It's called initials.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:15 PM
Apr 2019

The concept has been around for a long time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
11. Initials that can also stand for something completely unflattering.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:16 PM
Apr 2019

Again, Bernie Sanders is pretty much the only candidate here who is consistently referred to by his initials.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

GaYellowDawg

(4,447 posts)
14. Well, then, get pissed at his parents.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:18 PM
Apr 2019

And quit buying trouble where there isn't any.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
16. Wow, you seem touchy.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:20 PM
Apr 2019

What's your deal?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

GaYellowDawg

(4,447 posts)
39. I am touchy.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:30 PM
Apr 2019

I've had a really bad start to the weekend, and it's extremely annoying to see a "Bernie's getting picked on" post manufactured out of thin air. No one around here is afraid to use the term "bullshit" if that's what they mean.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
53. I'm sorry you're having a bad day.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:44 PM
Apr 2019

My day didn't start off that great either, but what can you do.

This wasn't really intended as a "Bernie's getting picked on" post. It's just something I've legitimately been wondering about for awhile.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

GaYellowDawg

(4,447 posts)
55. Fair enough.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:46 PM
Apr 2019

I disagree with your premise, but I apologize for treating you rudely.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
65. Quite
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:59 PM
Apr 2019

someone seems to want to make an issue of this

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,578 posts)
20. So what that has been going on forever.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:21 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
184. So what in that when I see people type BS, I don't just think they mean Bernie Sanders.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 08:36 PM
Apr 2019

It's really not that hard a concept to grasp.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
13. Often, we refer to people by the easiest shortcut.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:18 PM
Apr 2019

Beto is an easy shortcut. So is HRC. So is Mayor Pete. In my state, our governor is JB.

Sanders can be that Huckabee woman. Ick!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
24. I never liked using HRC, only because it's also the same initials for the Human Rights Campaign
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:23 PM
Apr 2019

And yes, sometimes a story was about one and it took a while to realize that it wasn't about the other.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
87. And when he got down there he looked around and said "BFD"!
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 02:22 PM
Apr 2019


When I went to high school and college I took the IRT to GSS (Grand Central Station) and switched to the BMT. If it was a nice day I'd walk the eight blocks to school, otherwise I switched to the IND for two stops.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,578 posts)
18. It is his initials. So no.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:20 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
19. Yes. It's an insult.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:21 PM
Apr 2019

"BS" has too wide a currency in our culture to not be an insult. I say that because I've never seen it used by anyone here, except by people who seem to hate him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. JFK, FDR, HMT, DDE, JFK, LBJ, RMN, RFK, WJC, BHO (and sometimes PBO), HRC, etc.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:23 PM
Apr 2019

I guess if you want to make a person's initials an issue, it's your prerogative. To me there are more important things to worry about these days.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
33. I never said that no one is ever referred to by their initials.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:26 PM
Apr 2019

I said that out of nearly 20 candidates running, Bernie is the only one who gets called as such. I never see anyone refer to Joe Biden as JB (or even JRB) or Beto O'Rourke as BO.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
41. None of the other 19 or so candidates have been out there for 3-4 years, people aren't familiar...
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:32 PM
Apr 2019

...with their initials yet.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,646 posts)
32. Well, that's exactly why I never use that for Bernie, but did with HRC and do with others like AOC.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:25 PM
Apr 2019

But I can only speak for me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
34. Oh, what a shame...
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:26 PM
Apr 2019

...Have you read the Mueller report of the help the Russians gave BS in the 2016 primaries?

I've seen criticism that members of the Democratic Committee got involved in the Democratic Primary, but no BS supporters criticism of the Russians helping BS.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Ponietz

(2,974 posts)
52. +1 What a petty concern on the same day we learn the contents of the report
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:43 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
57. Have to distract from the part of the report that reveals the support for Sanders
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:48 PM
Apr 2019

“Main idea: Use any opportunity to criticize Hillary [Clinton] and the rest (except Sanders and Trump - we support them).”

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapucelle

(18,265 posts)
76. Maybe some of the BS supporters (including the BS press secretary) are still in denial
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:19 PM
Apr 2019

about the Russian involvement.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Freethinker65

(10,023 posts)
35. Sometimes, when character length is not an issue, yes.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:28 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

David__77

(23,418 posts)
36. Among some militants, it's intended as an insult.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:29 PM
Apr 2019

...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
40. More like an amusing coincidence
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:31 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
42. "Militants"? I thought the run of the mill everyday Democrats were "Establishment"....
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:33 PM
Apr 2019

So now we have a militant establishment?

Being a Democrat since the early 1970s, I'd hardly consider myself a "militant", and I refer to him by his initials sometimes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
45. I'm guessing the "Establishment" slur isn't have the same effect it used to
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:36 PM
Apr 2019

So they're trying out new ones.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,819 posts)
164. As another comment on another thread..
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 10:58 AM
Apr 2019

BS is more establishment politics than any one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,257 posts)
97. Oh? Is "militants" your slur word
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:04 PM
Apr 2019

for whom?

Define "militants".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(25,532 posts)
136. More exciting than being called the usual centrists/Republicans.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:07 PM
Apr 2019

A more dangerous enemy is needed. A militant centrist?

The establishment and high dollar donors are "plotting" "behind closed doors" to "take us down," an "attack on all of us" -- they are "terrified" and "will stop at nothing." I imagine Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer chatting with Barbara Streisand and George Clooney at a fundraiser in a nice hotel (only Chuck eats the canapes). And that's supposed to scare the hell out of us? This is where the organized attack against the people is coming from?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,257 posts)
141. I think he means "Warriors for Democracy"
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:24 AM
Apr 2019

he can correct me if I'm wrong.

Oh yes.. BS takes a jab at "canapés" in one of his emails..




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(25,532 posts)
142. Remember what happened to French fries. Maybe Dems should start calling canapes
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 01:04 AM
Apr 2019

and hors d'oeuvres Freedom Nibbles. Sounds more American, less elitist.

First they complained about donuts, now canapes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,257 posts)
144. I do remember what happened to
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:21 AM
Apr 2019

French Fries.. That was crazy!

Now it sounds like they're going after "canapés".. giving them a bad name.. Ridiculous!

What's next?.. Pupus?!

In Hawaii..

Pu pu platter



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pu_pu_platter

Is it any appetizer or just canapés?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(25,532 posts)
146. For "FDR Democrats":
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 07:04 AM
Apr 2019

"So far apart were their appetites that when FDR relaxed with a cocktail and a few smoked clams at the end of the day -- a ritual he cherished -- Eleanor often stayed away. She rarely touched alcohol, and the idea of spending money on a luxury like tinned clams, especially during the Depression, appalled her."
Laura Shapiro, "What She Ate."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,257 posts)
147. Oooops! Establishment!
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 07:29 AM
Apr 2019

FDR ate Smoked clams during the Depression.. Bookmarking!

Reminds me of President Obama and Grey Poupon..



"Obama Orders Burger With Elitist European Condiment"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,819 posts)
166. Ssshhhh. I think they mean ME!!!
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 10:59 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,257 posts)
183. We! We are Warriors for Democracy!
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 05:29 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
37. It can be seen as that, I believe some do it because they don't like the guy
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:29 PM
Apr 2019

I don't use his initials because everyone knows who "Bernie" is. HRC is commonly used for Hillary so using initials isn't a problem, using Bernie's isn't that big a deal either, its just not my thing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ALBliberal

(2,342 posts)
44. I made a similar post a few weeks ago. I believe it
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:35 PM
Apr 2019

is a not so subtle criticism and you make a good point that we don’t refer to other candidates by initials.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,149 posts)
158. Guess you never heard of LBJ, JFK, HRC...
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 10:19 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mike Nelson

(9,956 posts)
47. Perhaps so...
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:40 PM
Apr 2019

... I don't think "Bernie" is too long and he seems to like being called Bernie. Initials sometimes stick, when there are three: FDR, JFK, RFK, MLK, LBJ, GWB...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
48. Calling a Senator and Presidential candidate "Bernie" is a suble way of making him more likeable, so
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:40 PM
Apr 2019

it's a pretty petty thing to complain about.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

David__77

(23,418 posts)
77. Good observation about "Bernie."
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:20 PM
Apr 2019

I don't call him "Bernie" personally.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
49. no but some folks
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:42 PM
Apr 2019

need to be outraged as a natural state and look for insults everywhere.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LakeArenal

(28,819 posts)
167. Perpetual faux outrage
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 11:03 AM
Apr 2019

The only nickname I use I would consider on edge is Gilli.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MH1

(17,600 posts)
50. Depends on the context. But of course, for those who want it to be an insult,
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:42 PM
Apr 2019

it will always be an insult.

I typically try to use candidates' last names consistently. Every now and then I'll use BS for Sanders. If I do, it's not intended as an insult. There is much I don't like about Sanders these days, and usually any post I write about him will have some of that spelled out. There will be no need to infer it from whatever name I use for him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
51. Yes. It's a juvenile insult.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:42 PM
Apr 2019

Elementary school playground level.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KayF

(1,345 posts)
54. yes but it doesn't matter
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:46 PM
Apr 2019

it is very easily ignored

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

no_hypocrisy

(46,116 posts)
56. I'll go hip-hop: B-SAND.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:47 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

irisblue

(32,975 posts)
63. Here...let me drop you 2
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:56 PM
Apr 2019



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
61. Oh for heavens sake, get a grip.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:52 PM
Apr 2019

Now that "Mr. Sanders" is running in a crowded field and is being truly vetted, he and his supporters are showing how thin their skins really are. Politics is a contact sport. I don't use it as a slam, but a shortcut. I used HRC and I was a huge supporter. I'm not sure how he is going to handle being on the burner the way he will be if he turns out to be the front runner. I had one of his supporters at work say that those of us who don't support him are "being mean to Bernie", really? What does he think it will be like in a general election with the bully in chief?

I remember a line from the West Wing, I am fighting the real battles here, I don't have time for the cosmetic ones.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
71. I like how everyone in this thread assumes I'm a Bernie Sanders supporter simply because I question
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:08 PM
Apr 2019

whether he's being insulted.

He's actually one of my last choices, but everyone can assume what they want.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
75. Whether you are a Sanders supporter or not, the rest of redstatebluegirl's post is a perfect reponse
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:18 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
92. Exactly
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 02:44 PM
Apr 2019

I have used HRC, PBO, BS for as long as all this has been going on. If people associate a meaning to the initials, it's their thought process not mine

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
62. Of course it is.. Always? Of course not.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:55 PM
Apr 2019

But don't let anybody tell you it is never used that way.
Particularly by people who despise him.

But, eh.....

I don't know WHO I support this time around. I really do not know if he is the one person who can beat trump.. OR if he is the one person who could lose it all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
67. I've seen you post the exact same response in other threads you apparently find disagreeable.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:03 PM
Apr 2019

No message, just a post title that says "lol fail !".

If you have nothing else of value to contribute, maybe you should consider not posting at all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
86. Yes, all your posts in this thread have been massive failures. n/t
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 02:02 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(297,257 posts)
100. No they haven't..
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:11 PM
Apr 2019
stonecutter!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,819 posts)
169. When you are right, you are right!
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 11:08 AM
Apr 2019

Lol applies as well.

What a joke.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
68. Oh look, it's this thread again...nt
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:04 PM
Apr 2019

Sid

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
69. LOL. So I guess I'm not the first person curious about this, am I? n/t
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:05 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
72. Yeah, the question pops up with regularity...
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:12 PM
Apr 2019

Last time was about a month ago, I think.



Sid

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

jalan48

(13,869 posts)
70. Does a bear shit in the woods?
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:06 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
73. SBS is a good sub if u want 2 shorten & don't want to look immature
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:14 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
79. Hmm; but, you said:
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:23 PM
Apr 2019
BS is fine with me. Cool is sooo hot! My bumper sticker says 'Bernie 2016 - because f**k this shit' and everytime I see BS it reminds me of the system we [edit: 'we' being those used by the corporatists worldwide] need to clean up, and everytime someone refers to Sanders as BS - I say to myself - Right on! Exactly! That's the fight - and don't forget it!


https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=16809
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
74. Almost identical thread from March 8
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:17 PM
Apr 2019

with almost identical answers and responses.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/128716304

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,819 posts)
170. So what is that old saying....
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 11:10 AM
Apr 2019

About posting the same thread over and over expecting a different response?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapucelle

(18,265 posts)
78. No, they're his initials.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:20 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
82. It's all so very...
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:47 PM
Apr 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
84. Hmmm.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:58 PM
Apr 2019

Well, about half the thread disagrees with you guys that he's referred to as BS only because people want to type his name faster. Meh.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
101. What difference does it make? Who cares? Personally, I believe...
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:13 PM
Apr 2019

What difference does it make? Who cares?

Besides, if people ARE typing "BS" to passively-aggressively annoy others, it just may be that their "hurt feelings" and "indignant" whining only encourages more of the same.

Personally, I believe that the more people who continually complain about people using Bernie's initials make themselves look worse than those who may be doing it intentionally to get under their skin.

I think it's all rather amusing really. Why would ANYONE get so upset about something like that?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
83. If the shoe fits ..
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:51 PM
Apr 2019

Some people's parents don't think of the initials while naming their children.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

namahage

(1,157 posts)
88. Or, apparently, DU usernames. n/t
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 02:33 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
89. I call him St. Bern, problem solved.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 02:36 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
90. I guess you're not feeling the BS.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 02:37 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
91. I don't see it that way
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 02:41 PM
Apr 2019

As others have noted, AOC, HRC and BHO are commonly used here. I use DT when referring to the Tangerine Turd in the WH.

I also agree that I prefer his given initials over "Sanders" to avoid confusion with lying Sarah.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
93. Just look at who answers no
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 03:46 PM
Apr 2019

It is almost like asking who ate the last cookie, who are you going to trust to answer the question honestly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
94. I'm happy to admit my dislike for Sanders; he earned it
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 03:54 PM
Apr 2019

I've said it many times; I was a fan of his long before 95% of people had ever heard of him. I thought he was largely ineffectual, but there was something fun about the way he poked the bear, as long as he voted with us.

That all changed three years ago, when he put his personal glory above the good of the country, and managed to help destabilize not just the country, but the whole damn world in the process.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
98. Did he stop voting with us in the Senate?
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:04 PM
Apr 2019

Personal glory? You meaning trying to get Warren to run for months, so that the conversation during the election could be geared toward going back to our Democratic roots and not geared for thousand dollar plate purchasers and disgruntled Republicans?

I watched him campaign for her, I have watched him continue to bring a voice to causes that I care about. He like, O'Malley ran against someone who had never won an national election from our party. But some people seem to think both men shouldn't have run.

The thing is you and I both live in states that will not change its status in the next general. Yours red and mine blue. And that is the beauty of reading here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
102. Yes, personal glory. We were faced with the election of Donald Trump with a Republican Congress
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:18 PM
Apr 2019

The instant it became mathematically impossible to win, as he had observed eight years earlier, he should have held rally after rally to bring his supporters to the nominee. Because, we were faced with the election of Donald Trump with a Republican Congress.

Instead, he dragged his feet, complained that he was cheated, and put divisive operatives on the platform committee. I don't care if he felt cheated; at that point, I didn't care if he WAS cheated. Because, we were faced with the election of Donald Trump with a Republican Congress.

Now, he has started up again, attacking the Democratic party, cozying up to FOX news, and staffing his campaign with Jill Stein voters. I believe he will do anything to advance his self-promotion, and the rest of us be damned.

No amount of whataboutism can change any of that.

And, my state has a chance to go blue this time; I don't know if it will happen, but I can state with 100% confidence that it will not happen if Sanders is the nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
127. I Stand With You On That
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 05:32 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
106. Funny, that is how I felt like someone
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:22 PM
Apr 2019

acted in 2008.


The rest of the post reminds me of reading posts on a yahoo mail piece. Frothy.

Your state will not go Blue. All the red voters from western Washington are moving there.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
107. You mean the person that Sanders supporters called "Hitlary", "Shrillary", and "Killary"?
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:25 PM
Apr 2019

You know, I don't even care if I get alerted anymore. Someone needs to stand up to this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
111. And what did some call Obama?
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:30 PM
Apr 2019

Before the Russian bots?

I caucused for him in WA and I never called or even was tempted to call her any of those names. I do understand being mad at other people's supporters. Oh yes, we have a mutual feeling on that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
155. Amen! THIS is the reality of what happened and
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 10:00 AM
Apr 2019

where we are.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BooScout

(10,406 posts)
173. Perfectly stated...
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 11:49 AM
Apr 2019

Bravo!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,257 posts)
99. Exactly. Except I
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:10 PM
Apr 2019

never liked him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
118. I remember
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:57 PM
Apr 2019

I liked and felt sorry for Hillary when she was First Lady.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
96. Yep. That's the giveaway. No real Sanders supporter ever refers to him by first and last initials
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:01 PM
Apr 2019

RFK, sure. I loved Bobby and called him RFK sometimes. People who are fond of Bernie Sanders, or who respect him, or who support him etc. never call him BS. It is not a coincidence what the slang definition of BS is and who it is who insist on calling Bernie Sanders BS.

It isn't a major issue in the world that some folks take pleasure in calling Sanders that, but it becomes laughable to see the denials and the claim of pure innocence. I would have more respect for people who like to call Sanders BS if they would simply admit that they "appreciate" the "coincidence" of what his first and last name initials conjure up. I can deal with it. But the pious denials

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
105. I don't deny it; as I said, I find it an amusing coincidence.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:22 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
103. Oh, good grief.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:19 PM
Apr 2019

Last edited Fri Apr 19, 2019, 05:07 PM - Edit history (1)

All of the issues we have in this nation, including Trump's cesspool, and this manufactured middle school recess silliness is going to solve poverty, immigration, war and peace,racism, misogyny, greed, you name it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
108. of course it is. and no so subtle either.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:26 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
109. Yeah, it is.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:26 PM
Apr 2019

Point in fact, none of the people who use it are typically Bernie supporters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
182. Nobody here dislikes Bernie any more than I do.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 04:40 PM
Apr 2019

And I can’t think of a single time I’ve evee used BS. So not everyone who dislikes Bernie uses it. Far from universal. I think it’s a little too much low lying fruit too. Which is another reason to avoid it. There’s plenty to critique without getting into the juvenile stuff.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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dlk

(11,566 posts)
113. Those Are His Initials...
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:35 PM
Apr 2019
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dlk

(11,566 posts)
114. Those Are His Initials...
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:35 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
115. Not so much subtle, but yes.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:36 PM
Apr 2019

As mentioned upthread, take a look at the people saying "No." It's like KKK members saying "the N-word isn't racist" or Republicans saying "You can trust us."

If I were to vote in a presidential
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NBachers

(17,110 posts)
120. Yes, I use it intentionally as an insult.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 05:08 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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NBachers

(17,110 posts)
123. Honesty is the best policy, don't you agree?
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 05:15 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
181. Hahahaha
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 04:38 PM
Apr 2019

Best answer in the thread!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
124. no
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 05:20 PM
Apr 2019

It's not subtle at all, it's an insult. A childish one at that.

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Fla Dem

(23,676 posts)
125. I don't know, is it? FDR, JFK, even ocassionally you saw Obama referred to as BO.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 05:23 PM
Apr 2019

So are people sensitive? They are his initials and a quick way to refer to him. See no problem with it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
130. "Yes, I use it intentionally as an insult." from upthread.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 05:48 PM
Apr 2019

So yes, it's used as an insult. (Props to that poster for being honest about it, you don't find that often.) I avoid it myself, for the same reason I didn't refer to Obama as "B.O.". It was a rightwing meme that was used as a dig against Obama (and infrequently used by some here as an insult for the same reason), and so I avoided using it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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W_HAMILTON

(7,867 posts)
129. Should we all expect sternly worded letters soon?
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 05:38 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Autumn

(45,095 posts)
134. Yes a couple of people use it as an abbreviation of Bull Shit, BS or bs. nt
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:50 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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dgauss

(882 posts)
135. It's a little insult used by people who don't like Sanders because he's divisive.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:28 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
180. Glad to see you've come around to that.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 04:37 PM
Apr 2019

He is divisive IMO.

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MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
137. I think referring to him as the
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:37 PM
Apr 2019

Independent Senator from Vermont is descriptive and respectful.

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LakeArenal

(28,819 posts)
168. Too much to type. But I look forward to you typing every time.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 11:06 AM
Apr 2019
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melman

(7,681 posts)
138. They think it's clever
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:58 PM
Apr 2019

Which is pretty pathetic really but what are you gonna do.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
189. Who is "they?" (nt)
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 09:04 AM
Apr 2019
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melman

(7,681 posts)
195. lol
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 11:15 AM
Apr 2019

indeed.

Anyone can see 'they' refers to those that say BS. It couldn't be more clear. I mean, I get that you were trying to get me to type out a list of specific screen names. But why on earth would I ever do a thing like that?

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
197. Complain about imagined nefarious intentions on the part of others, I guess,
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:58 AM
Apr 2019

for lack of anything more relevant.

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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,004 posts)
139. I don't necessarily think so
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:19 AM
Apr 2019

If it's used for brevity to make the title fit in a post.

If it's used where such is not the case then yes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
143. For some posters there is a pattern of use of "bs" and deliberate lowercase "sanders"
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 01:40 AM
Apr 2019

Which I view as insulting in intent. Some form of protest I guess?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
148. Oh NO! The horror! LOWER CASE "sanders" instead of BS? Really?? Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 09:08 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
151. Not a horror, just telling of the poster's bias when used
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 09:52 AM
Apr 2019

Feel free to capitalize(or not) Sen. Sander's name as you see fit. Doesn't harm me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
157. But it bothered you enough to speculate about a poster's motivation or intent....
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 10:18 AM
Apr 2019
Feel free to capitalize(or not) Sen. Sander's name as you see fit. Doesn't harm me.
It harms nobody. But it bothered you enough to speculate about a poster's motivation or intent.... and it bothered you enough to post about it here.

just telling of the poster's bias when used
What difference does it make? You make it sound like it's a bad thing. I think we all have a "bias" when it comes to the candidate/s that we prefer vs the candidate/s that we don't.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
159. I agree wholeheartedly on bias NurseJackie
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 10:26 AM
Apr 2019

There is bias for preferred candidate and bias against non-preferred. Being aware of such bias may be something to note when reading a post regarding a candidate. That's all.

Engaging in a back-n-forth on my levels of botherness is probably a waste of both our time. But I will acknowledge my bias towards positive viewing of Sen. Warren and I think she will make a strong candidate and awesome president.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

lapucelle

(18,265 posts)
160. DOn'T soMe PeOPLe dO THiS ?
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 10:29 AM
Apr 2019

i wONdEr wHaT THaT mEAnS?

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
161. OMG! You're killing me!
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 10:33 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
172. Probably means a new keyboard or a keyboard cleaning is needed.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 11:46 AM
Apr 2019

Or perhaps too much caffeine causing jitter fingers next to the shift key.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(145,288 posts)
150. Many real democrats do not believe that sanders is electable
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 09:35 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
153. Thank you for sharing this opinion
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 09:54 AM
Apr 2019

I'll respond with my own countering opinion that many real Democrats do believe that Sen. Sanders is electable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(145,288 posts)
174. In the real world, sanders is not electable
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 03:39 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
175. In the real world, Sen. Sanders is electable
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 03:51 PM
Apr 2019

***insert link to twitter opinion that supports my opinion here***

Just my opinion. Feel free to keep yours and I'm going to do the same regarding mine.

edited to add: We will see how our opinions are supported by reality once people actually start voting. I wish your preferred candidate success and ultimate victory in 2020 over trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(145,288 posts)
176. If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 04:02 PM
Apr 2019

From the Political Wire-- How Bernie Sanders Thinks He’ll Win the Nomination https://politicalwire.com/2019/04/18/how-bernie-sanders-thinks-hell-win-nomination/

The Atlantic: “He’s counting on winning Iowa and New Hampshire, where he was already surprisingly strong in 2016, and hoping that Cory Booker and Kamala Harris will split the black electorate in South Carolina and give him a path to slip through there, too. And then, Sanders aides believe, he’ll easily win enough delegates to put him into contention at the convention. They say they don’t need him to get more than 30 percent to make that happen.”

Even Mondale got more support than sanders

If I were to vote in a presidential
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roody

(10,849 posts)
156. Does he have a middle name? I'll add that initial.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 10:07 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
171. Roflmfao.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 11:15 AM
Apr 2019

There is no victimhood too ridiculous for some supporters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
177. I'm 100% Sanders But Don't Mind It
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 04:15 PM
Apr 2019

My thinking is simple: lots of people use abbreviations and acronyms. I only type 30 words per minute on a good day. I typically take the time to type in full sentences but also use a desktop to do so. Many others, including Generation Z, predominantly use mobile devices. For them, abbreviations and acronyms rule the day.

I realize that some Bernie haters fancy themselves clever by associating his initials with "Body Odor".

His lack of a middle name, while somewhat unusual, is less uncommon in Europe. My wife, born in Germany, has no middle name. On her birth certificate, that field is blank.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

comradebillyboy

(10,149 posts)
185. It's not all that subtile, is it?
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 01:55 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BooScout

(10,406 posts)
186. Well EW isn't exactly flattering either...
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 08:57 AM
Apr 2019

But they are her initials. I got better things to do than to be angsting out over a candid's initials.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
187. If Mayor Pete got the nomination and chose Biden for VP, we'd have "PB & J"
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 09:02 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
188. Of course, its why they use it.
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 10:53 PM
Apr 2019

The initials of other politicians do not also stand for a derogatory term and btw, its not subtle.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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