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applegrove

(118,696 posts)
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 08:18 PM Apr 2019

Pete Buttigieg's Focus: Storytelling First. Policy Details Later

Pete Buttigieg’s Focus: Storytelling First. Policy Details Later.

By Alexander Burns at the New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/14/us/politics/pete-buttigieg-2020-writing-message.html

"SNIP....

A Times review of Mr. Buttigieg’s writings, starting in college, found that rhetorical task to be a consistent preoccupation. As a student, Mr. Buttigieg, now 37 and the mayor of South Bend, Ind., habitually discussed Democrats’ challenges in terms of language and argument, rather than policy or ideology. Mr. Buttigieg urged liberals in his student columns to speak in terms of “effective political values,” and he recalled corresponding in college with the University of California, Berkeley, linguist George Lakoff, who in 2004 published a best seller about political communication.

In an interview, Mr. Buttigieg said his college writings were no longer fresh in his mind. But then, as now, he acknowledged, he was focused on the interaction of “narrative and politics,” and how parties connect with people beyond policy decrees.

“The story that we tell, not just about government but about ourselves, and the story we tell people about themselves and how they fit in, really grounds our politics,” Mr. Buttigieg said.

Mr. Buttigieg said in the interview that Democrats in 2004 faced a “crisis of authenticity,” with too many “pretending to be more hawkish than their consciences were.”



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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
1. Obviously whoever tells the best story has the best chance.
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 08:24 PM
Apr 2019
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
3. Would like to see Mayor Pete start getting down to specifics...
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 08:28 PM
Apr 2019

I very much like Pete and his campaign style, but, it's time for him to "start putting some meat on the bones" or he's going the way of the other "flavor of the month," like Beto.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
5. his specifics lack content, substance and purpose. imo
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 08:34 PM
Apr 2019
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
7. They do, but, I'm willing to be a little more patient with Pete and hear him out...
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 08:40 PM
Apr 2019

The problem, of course, is you have candidates like Bernie & Elizabeth, who are rolling in content, substance and purpose and, thus, set the standard by which all other candidates will be judged.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
9. i can't argue with this. will they step up?
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 08:43 PM
Apr 2019
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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
8. He will, and I expect he will start sometime in May
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 08:43 PM
Apr 2019

and definitely before the first debate.

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leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
2. I say think goodness
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 08:26 PM
Apr 2019

A presidential candidate who refuses to make pie in the sky promises that he can't deliver later on. I will take him and his husband and I don't give one fuck what some asshole writer at the New York Times thinks

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applegrove

(118,696 posts)
4. I was thrilled with the part in the article where Buttigieg says he has
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 08:31 PM
Apr 2019

been thinking about narrative and politics for a long time. Can't wait to see what other storytelling he does.

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True Dough

(17,306 posts)
6. Amen!
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 08:36 PM
Apr 2019

His policy details are gradually emerging. He's holding plenty of town halls and doing media interviews where he's being put on the spot about specific issues and he's not shrinking violet. But he's not over the top either. Even-keeled Pete. He'll take us a long way.

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Baclava

(12,047 posts)
10. Great idea! To "Activate the base" first you need to establish your own
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 08:55 PM
Apr 2019

Graphs and checklists don't inspire people to stand in the rain to come see you, personalities do.

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applegrove

(118,696 posts)
11. Have you not heard him say he would start the discussion on ending the
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 09:11 PM
Apr 2019

electoral college, slowing moving to Medicare for All and adjusting the supreme court? He's not been a blank slate on policy.

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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,357 posts)
12. It's great to urge people to talk about their values and grounding and how they fit in.
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 09:31 PM
Apr 2019

But at the end of the day, if you're running, you have to take your own advice and talk about your own effective political values. What are they?

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applegrove

(118,696 posts)
14. He talks alot about his plans and way of problem solving when he does town halls.
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 09:33 PM
Apr 2019

There is one tomorrow night.


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patricia92243

(12,597 posts)
13. a "crisis of authenticity," Perfect phrase for today's problems. n/t
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 09:32 PM
Apr 2019
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elleng

(130,974 posts)
15. 'he was focused on the interaction of "narrative and politics,"
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 09:35 PM
Apr 2019

and how parties connect with people beyond policy decrees.'

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bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
16. That's how most good campaigns tend to operate.
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 10:41 AM
Apr 2019

You draw people in with broad ideas at first to pique their interest and then once the campaign gets deeper, so do the policies.

For most voters, you have to get them in the door first before you sell them on your policy. That's what he's trying to do right now. Obama was similar in 2007 and early 2008. He spoke in very broad terms and generalities, then as campaign season got deeper, he did as well.

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