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Not something to be flaunted, praised or politicized: Franklin Graham blasts Buttigieg for being gay
I know there have been other threads about this. Here's one more.
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Not something to be flaunted, praised or politicized: Franklin Graham blasts Buttigieg for being gay
By Kyle Swenson
April 25 at 5:05 AM
In his effort to push through the crowded room of 2020 Democratic presidential candidates, Pete Buttigieg, the gay mayor of South Bend, Ind., has regularly brought up his Christian faith and his experience balancing scripture with his sexuality. ... It can be challenging to be a person of faith whos also part of the LGBTQ community and yet, to me, the core of faith is regard for one another, the candidate said at a CNN town hall on Monday. And part of Gods love is experienced, according to my faith tradition, is in the way that we support one another and, in particular, support the least among us.
By embracing and reconciling two identities that have often been pitted against one another in modern American discourse, Buttigieg has put himself on a collision course with Christian evangelicals, the deeply conservative GOP backbone that has pushed back against LGBTQ rights. ... On Wednesday, one of President Trumps most vocal evangelical supporters, Franklin Graham, the son of the prominent evangelist Billy Graham, set off that showdown with a series of tweets attacking the South Bend mayor on the grounds of faith.
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Mayor Buttigieg says hes a gay Christian, Graham wrote. As a Christian I believe the Bible which defines homosexuality as sin, something to be repentant of, not something to be flaunted, praised or politicized. The Bible says marriage is between a man & a woman not two men, not two women. ... Graham continued that The core of the Christian faith is believing and following Jesus Christ, who God sent to be the Savior of the world to save us from sin, to save us from hell, to save us from eternal damnation.
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Kyle Swenson is a reporter with The Washington Post's Morning Mix team. He previously worked at the New Times Broward-Palm Beach and Cleveland Scene. Follow https://twitter.com/kyletalking
Not something to be flaunted, praised or politicized: Franklin Graham blasts Buttigieg for being gay
By Kyle Swenson
April 25 at 5:05 AM
In his effort to push through the crowded room of 2020 Democratic presidential candidates, Pete Buttigieg, the gay mayor of South Bend, Ind., has regularly brought up his Christian faith and his experience balancing scripture with his sexuality. ... It can be challenging to be a person of faith whos also part of the LGBTQ community and yet, to me, the core of faith is regard for one another, the candidate said at a CNN town hall on Monday. And part of Gods love is experienced, according to my faith tradition, is in the way that we support one another and, in particular, support the least among us.
By embracing and reconciling two identities that have often been pitted against one another in modern American discourse, Buttigieg has put himself on a collision course with Christian evangelicals, the deeply conservative GOP backbone that has pushed back against LGBTQ rights. ... On Wednesday, one of President Trumps most vocal evangelical supporters, Franklin Graham, the son of the prominent evangelist Billy Graham, set off that showdown with a series of tweets attacking the South Bend mayor on the grounds of faith.
....
Mayor Buttigieg says hes a gay Christian, Graham wrote. As a Christian I believe the Bible which defines homosexuality as sin, something to be repentant of, not something to be flaunted, praised or politicized. The Bible says marriage is between a man & a woman not two men, not two women. ... Graham continued that The core of the Christian faith is believing and following Jesus Christ, who God sent to be the Savior of the world to save us from sin, to save us from hell, to save us from eternal damnation.
....
Kyle Swenson is a reporter with The Washington Post's Morning Mix team. He previously worked at the New Times Broward-Palm Beach and Cleveland Scene. Follow https://twitter.com/kyletalking
Let me just add this:
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So many denouncing Roy Moore when they are guilty of doing much worse than what he has been accused of supposedly doing. - Franklin Graham
Seems you can find the moral relativism in your heart when it suits you, reverend.
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Standards, according to Graham, are flexible when *he* wants them to be.
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This should be the standard response to whenever these "good Christians" take from the Old Testament in one tweet to condemn people, and then try to buddy up to Jesus in the next!
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Not something to be flaunted, praised or politicized: Franklin Graham blasts Buttigieg for being gay (Original Post)
mahatmakanejeeves
Apr 2019
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ProudMNDemocrat
(16,789 posts)1. And we can blast with memes that Franklin Graham.....
Is an asshole.
His fater, the Rev. Billy Graham, must be turning in his grave as to what an asshole his son became.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rurallib
(62,448 posts)3. I doubt old "Reverend" Billy is rolling in his grave
Pardon me for being very skeptical but for the Grahams stirring up the hate and fleecing the flock are business considerations. Billy did it very well. Franklin doing well at it also.
I always wonder if these people actually believe what they say or if it is just a show.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Otto Lidenbrock
(581 posts)5. Billy Graham was an asshole
Never trust preachers who seek celebrity
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,497 posts)7. Don't Forget Billy Graham's Anti-Semitic Turn With Richard Nixon
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/thomas-jefferson-street/articles/2018-02-28/dont-forget-billy-grahams-anti-semitic-turn-with-richard-nixon
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Well, not quite. As fleeting references there and elsewhere hinted, there was a nasty and anti-Semitic 1972 Oval Office dialogue between Graham and President Richard Nixon. Among the more than 3,000 hours of secret recordings, it easily makes any Top 100 List (the competition is fierce). I recall it well since It was my story. In 2002 I'd been tipped off to the tape by a source at the National Archives and Records Administration prior to a large-scale release of previously unheard recordings. I proceeded with the inherently time-consuming transcription of the conversation for the Chicago Tribune.
Consider our being taken aback by the dribs and drabs that come out of the Trump White House about Donald Trump's rhetorical outrages and crudeness. Nixon probably has him topped, at least given the unmistakable electronic proof of what Nixon said.
The chat followed a Feb. 10, 1972 prayer breakfast the two men had attended. The Vietnam War was raging and Nixon was often very focused on his re-election campaign.
I listened as he made a string of bigoted remarks about Jews and what he deemed their undue influence. Graham responded, "This stranglehold has got to be broken or the country's going down the drain." That line was picked up by media at the time and included in some of remembrances following his demise. Most of the conversation was not.
"You believe that?" Nixon said, seeming to be pleasantly surprised with affirmation of an anti-Semitic streak that courses through many Nixon Oval Office conversations.
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Well, not quite. As fleeting references there and elsewhere hinted, there was a nasty and anti-Semitic 1972 Oval Office dialogue between Graham and President Richard Nixon. Among the more than 3,000 hours of secret recordings, it easily makes any Top 100 List (the competition is fierce). I recall it well since It was my story. In 2002 I'd been tipped off to the tape by a source at the National Archives and Records Administration prior to a large-scale release of previously unheard recordings. I proceeded with the inherently time-consuming transcription of the conversation for the Chicago Tribune.
Consider our being taken aback by the dribs and drabs that come out of the Trump White House about Donald Trump's rhetorical outrages and crudeness. Nixon probably has him topped, at least given the unmistakable electronic proof of what Nixon said.
The chat followed a Feb. 10, 1972 prayer breakfast the two men had attended. The Vietnam War was raging and Nixon was often very focused on his re-election campaign.
I listened as he made a string of bigoted remarks about Jews and what he deemed their undue influence. Graham responded, "This stranglehold has got to be broken or the country's going down the drain." That line was picked up by media at the time and included in some of remembrances following his demise. Most of the conversation was not.
"You believe that?" Nixon said, seeming to be pleasantly surprised with affirmation of an anti-Semitic streak that courses through many Nixon Oval Office conversations.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
33taw
(2,447 posts)2. Well, there goes the evangelical vote. Franklin Grahmn should not be given any press - anywhere.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
keithbvadu2
(36,906 posts)4. The evangelicals still love Trump. Just as Franklin does.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
33taw
(2,447 posts)6. Yep, his opinion does not matter.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden